Un-hooked Bow Kites

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Blondie
Blondie
VIC
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VIC, 38 posts
18 Nov 2005 5:40pm
i thought that i should post this after the "Bow Kites" post to see if any one feels the same as me.
i have heard from a few sponsored guys and now from my instructor that bow kites are really hard (like REALLY!!! hard) to ride un-hooked, and that even the best bow kite riders dont unhook much.


please only reply if you are going to give an unbiased opinion as im trying to learn... and im sure that manyothers feel the same, that is confused about this.
HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
WA, 859 posts
18 Nov 2005 2:56pm
in all honesty, when you say learning, I'm picturing a newbie !

if you are a newbie, I would'nt be getting into the whole unhooking debate as it will be some time before your going to be worried about it...

I would focus on learning as much as you can that will benefit your riding ability right now...
Devil-Fish
Devil-Fish
WA
40 posts
WA, 40 posts
18 Nov 2005 3:04pm
Andre Phillip is one of the worlds best unhooked wake style rider's.

He is pro for cabrinha, so i would think he must be using their bow. I wonder how he is getting along with it.

I think it's a case off try before you buy.But i agree with the last post, i wouldnt get too bogged down with unhooking espiecially seeing as you havent even flown a kite. There a lot more skills you will need to get down first.

I don t think its un resonable to say that 70% of all kiters will never unahook anyway...
Blondie
Blondie
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18 Nov 2005 6:04pm
fair enough, but looking in advance im going to want a kit that i can do everything with, and getting one that (possibly) wont allow me to unhook to do my prefered style (wakestyle) would be a waist.
thats all, and dont worry that im am newbie as im sure that others will be interested as well.

do you think that its a fair statmentthat 70% of kiter wont unhook?

and had first lesson on thurs
HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
WA, 859 posts
18 Nov 2005 3:11pm
Originally posted by Blondie

fair enough, but looking in advance im going to want a kit that i can do everything with, and getting one that (possibly) wont allow me to unhook to do my prefered style (wakestyle) would be a waist.
thats all, and dont worry that im am newbie as im sure that others will be interested as well.


Styles change, when I took up this sport 5 years ago I was only interested in surf/wave... then I went flat, then wake and now it's flat/wake/wave(twin tips & surf boards)/sliders what ever take's my fancy for the day...

I appreciate your eagerness I realy do but wake style does not always have to be unhooked... I do both as do many riders I know but it's not one of those things that defines our riding styles. Dale Stanton, one of WA's top riders, ride's bow's and he unhooks when he feels the need no problems...
HungLong
HungLong
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18 Nov 2005 3:12pm
Originally posted by Blondie
[do you think that its a fair statmentthat 70% of kiter wont unhook?


yep...
Blondie
Blondie
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VIC, 38 posts
18 Nov 2005 6:44pm
thanks for your input everyone
s im guessing the general concensus is no one cares and i shouldnt either...yet.
newcastle_justin
newcastle_justin
NSW
149 posts
NSW, 149 posts
20 Nov 2005 11:16pm
Blondie, I have just started to do unhooked tricks and I ride a Crossbow 9. In no time at all I was landing raileys (is that how you spell it?) and I am looking get into more tricks in the coming weeks. So for me, unhooking with the bow is just fine.
davow
davow
WA
17 posts
WA, 17 posts
20 Nov 2005 8:55pm
Same here, back rolls & raileys first time unhooked no problem with the xbow 16m. Although I had to depower it a bit so my arms wouldn't get ripped out, but I guess that's with most kites.
longy29
longy29
VIC
77 posts
VIC, 77 posts
21 Nov 2005 9:01am
Dont even listen to those instructors, when was the last time you saw one killing it. There the first to bag other kites as they have to justify you paying to use there crap!

If you are serious about unhooking go the switchblade,the pull is nice and the power cut out and super easy relunch will have you trying more moves then ever


Blondie
Blondie
VIC
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VIC, 38 posts
21 Nov 2005 10:07am
i think this "Although I had to depower it a bit so my arms wouldn't get ripped out" is what there talking about.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
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21 Nov 2005 9:43am
i flew a GK Sonic on the beach yesterday just to give em a sample, hurt my arms being unhooked after a couple of mins... Although flying any kite for minutes unhooked can begin to hurt your arms when its windy.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
21 Nov 2005 9:43am
i flew a GK Sonic on the beach yesterday just to give em a sample, hurt my arms being unhooked after a couple of mins... Although flying any kite for minutes unhooked can begin to hurt your arms when its windy.
richierich
richierich
NSW
226 posts
NSW, 226 posts
21 Nov 2005 11:09am
Originally posted by Blondie

i think this "Although I had to depower it a bit so my arms wouldn't get ripped out" is what there talking about.

don't worry about Davow remember he is on a 16m. One of the benefits of using say the switchblades is you can use a smaller kite and if you want to unhook you don't need a manyway. a 12 is much more suited and a 9 would be fine as well. I am usually out on 9 when there are plenty of 16s out and i am not underpowered. Some of the big guys like a big kite and ride 16's up to 25 knots (these are likely the 70% who don't unhook that brownee was refering to).
When choosing the right bow to get it depends how heavy you are and what your local conditions are on which size to get. i used to have 6 kites and now i have a 12 and a 9 and can comfortably cover 5- 30 knots and unhook the whole time. I have to trim the kite to unhook less than i did with the standard C kite. I also had to rig up twice as many.
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