Underground Pohutu 6'2 vs Airush Converse 6'2

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AntoineB
AntoineB
NSW
9 posts
NSW, 9 posts
31 Mar 2010 10:08am
Hi there,
I am in the market for a new kite/surfboard which I want to be able to ride strapped or use a regular surfboard. I had my mind set on the Firewire despite various reports of delamination but the next batch will not reach Australia until July I am told.
I am now looking for feedback on both the UDG and Airush models. I am 78kg and ride mostly side or side-on conditions, 1-5ft. Also very interested to hear people's experience in terms of life span for these boards.

Cheers
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
31 Mar 2010 9:41pm
I've got a 6'2" Pohutu - spent 5 hours (seriously - no wind) surfing on it today (paddle surfing - without a kite). Had it out with a kite in 6-8 foot swell thanks to cyclone Ului and couldn't be happier - I normally ride it as my all rounder in anything from flat to 3 foot.

This thing starts coming alive paddle surfing in anything over 3 foot - with a kite it's magic in anything at all.

Super strong - fast to get you around the ****ty sections and paddles reaaaaaaly well. White all over with minimal graphics to keep it clean and simple - I like this heaps in a board...

Has quite a narrow tail - similar to the converse, so it fits nicely deep in the pocket - and the rails keep it running smoothly even in choppy windswell. You don't get that bouncy feeling.

Build quality is pretty cool - it's got a foam core with a 1.2mm paulownia wood shell around the whole lot - future fin boxes and 3 options for footstraps that are in the perfect position for wave riding. (If it's light winds you've gotta stand just in front of the straps. No heel dents yet and i've landed some decent launches off waves...

Havn't ridden a recent Converse - but in terms of shape, they're very very similar... See what the Airush riders think of theirs but keep in mind it's a surfboard - keep warrantee stuff in mind for later on down the track... Underground have an amazing warrantee service.
LouD
LouD
WA
642 posts
WA, 642 posts
31 Mar 2010 8:10pm
How does it compare to thr UG freewave and the Celeritas?

Thanks
AntoineB
AntoineB
NSW
9 posts
NSW, 9 posts
1 Apr 2010 11:53am
Thanks Rhys, great review
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
1 Apr 2010 10:06am
I use last years converse 6'0
I borrowed it last year while my other board was in repair and after using it twice i had to buy one.

I have used/demo'd/tried all sorts of boards from firewires to SS to poly boards etc etc etc For me the converse is the one that did it.

It feels tight, takes what you throw at it and just goes perfect.
I've had it out in double overhead to 1 foot on shore slop and it has never disappointed.
Three of my friends tried the converse and now each of them have one.
Wicked boards.

I'm not sure what else to say.
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
1 Apr 2010 2:43pm
Lou - Pohutu has more volume than the Freewave, but a pretty similar tail shape - rails are a bit softer and turn to a rounded rail closer to the tail (for a more surfy feel). For messin about and doing strapless freestyle - the Freewave is great... But I really love the fact that you can paddle the Pohutu and it surfs so well. I tried paddling a freewave once at Mambo - Didn't work.

Comparing to the Celeritas (or Celery stick) - The Underground turns slower, but has faaaaar more control. The great thing about the Celeritas was that it skittered around all over the place, so it was a ton of fun to ride in any conditions. But when you actually got onto a wave, it was tooooo skittery and tended to slide out (Especially deep in the pocket - due to its wide tail). The concave down the center of the Celery made it super quick, so you tended to be waaay out on the shoulder before you knew it, constant tail pressure slowed it down - but then it got skittery. Not making a 6'0 or bigger made it a bit of a chore to paddle - but as soon as you took off it was magic for surfing... Sooooooo quick and without the kite to worry about, you could pull off some stupidly late bottom turns and still have speed to smack at the lip...

Easiest way to put it -
Buy a Pohutu if you want to go surfing with (or without) a kite...
Buy a Celeritas if you want to go kiting with a surfboard (Or surfing with kite in 2-3 foot mushyness).
gravity
gravity
WA
6 posts
WA, 6 posts
1 Apr 2010 11:46am
Ive ridden both boards

2010 Converse - 6'0 model

Very Smooth Board, first thing i felt when i got on the board was how you dont really feel the chop at all - feels like you're floating - a lot of it was mainly to do with how good the pads are.

Upwind ability was good but found to be better on the Pohutu

Very Nice and stable board - is a great board to do strapless airs as it wont blow away in the wind - has a bit more weight than the pohutu does

Also seems to have a bit more flex than the pohutu - probably due to the construction

Rode it strapless but got the feeling it might be better as a strapped board - waves i rode it in were about shoulder high

2010/2009 Pohutu - 5'8 model

have yet to surf it but a few people claim that its possible...

I rode it strapless

Very STABLE board - seems a bit stiffer than the converse - very much reminds me of the Freewave in terms of how it sticks to your feet - I found that the Pohutu was easier to gybe than the converse. Goes upwind like a rocket - typical underground board

board accelerates really fast and snaps on a dime - have only had a chance to ride it in smaller waves but would love to try it in the bigger stuff - very fast board which seems stable at high speed - but not sure how it would be going down a big face because of the weight as it is quite light.


Personally i love the Pohutu for lighter winds and strapless, and i think the pohutu would have a stonger construction with the paulownia sandwich.

Hope this helps
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