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LEWISS
LEWISS
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16 Feb 2007 5:07pm
Hey, for quite a while now I have been trying to make some small kiting vids and edit them .

I have a sony HD Disk camera.

whats best program that would work with this camera, and what is better, MAC or WINDOWS.

any input welcome

thanks
sunseeker
sunseeker
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16 Feb 2007 4:18pm
I have used Pinnacle Studio and Cyberlink Power Director. Both of these are easy to use and fairly basic on terms of editing functionality.

If you want to get a bit more serious you will need something like Adobe or Final Cut Pro (you won't want to be shelling out cash for these though...)

Also, check out this review:
www.toptenreviews.com/best-video-editing-software
silviu
silviu
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16 Feb 2007 5:19pm
Lewiss,

If you have a PC, windows based programs are OK: Pinnacle, Adobe Premiere and some others (I've seen a dozen).
Ppersonally I use Pinnacle, as I am used to it, however there are some rare ocasions when the program just freezes and I have to re-boot the PC.
Adobe on the other hand is more complex (more professional).
By the end of the day, even the limited edition video editing software comming with our camera can be used to make some short videoclips.
Good luck
Kitehard
Kitehard
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16 Feb 2007 3:43pm
Hi Lewis,

I have been using Adobe Premier Pro, After Effects 6, Audiology and Encore, which totally kick arse, but takes a long time to get good at using them, even with video tutorials.

If you are just doing short clips and are not taking it too seriously, just use the software that comes with the camera or Microsoft Moviemaker or some such as they are easy to use and do a basic job.

If you want to do a super job with special effects and all the tricks, Pinnacle, Adobe Premier Pro or Apple Final Cut Pro are all essential but cost a small fortune.

Cheers and good winds,

congo abrezio
congo abrezio
NT
285 posts
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16 Feb 2007 4:16pm
windows movie maker does the job
Bloke
Bloke
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16 Feb 2007 5:48pm
Adobe Premier is good but as mentioned expensive, you can find yourself a copy online if you know the right spots to look. Microsoft Movie maker in XP is fairly simple to use and has fair results. If your lucky enough to be running Vista already there is a replacement for MS Moviemaker, Microsoft DVD - even more simple than moviemaker and better results (and you can burn straight to DVD instead of wmv files).
watto82
watto82
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16 Feb 2007 3:56pm
hey lewis macs are the bomb there designed to do that stuff they come with imovie which is fun to get started and there are stacks of programs for them its what the pros use! www.apple.com.au check it out, you could use windows but virus's and upgrades aren't that much fun!
tonk007
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16 Feb 2007 5:15pm
yep, watto is on the ball.
Macs are brilliant for this type of thing. Final Cut Pro supports HD so you can edit all in HD from your camera.
Ive been messing round with Motion lately too working creating some nice clips for the intro/credits etc.
Combine those 2 programs with DVD Studio Pro and your laughing.
All really depends how much you wanna spend.

:)
mikeb
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16 Feb 2007 5:24pm
hey lewis, macs are the best, track me down and you can come over and have a look and play with the imovie program, its got everything you need and way easier than pc.
monkey
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16 Feb 2007 6:34pm
Tonk07, I think by HD Lewis meant HARD-DISK and not Hi Definition...

I cant speak for PC programmes because I havent used any, but for video editing, you can't go wrong with a mac. Thats what its built for...

I have used FCP and iMovie. iMovie is REALLY easy to use and you can do some pretty crazy stuff with it. I highly recommend it. FCP is great but it takes awhile to learn. You can get some pretty professional output with iMovie and its so easy, its a joke!

The thing is, you also have to consider the freespace on your Computer Harddisk. You will need about 10GBs of free space at least to work on 60mins of tape. As for RAM, the more the merrier but at least 1GB of ram should be good.

i would suggest go to a shop and try to see if you can demo the programme... or try to download trial/demo versions of a programme before buying it....

If you already have a PC, dont bother getting a mac just for editing unless you're dead serious about it coz its gonna cost you a fortune....save the money for kites!
desmond
desmond
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16 Feb 2007 5:03pm
Hey mate defiantly recommend Premier pro I studied video editing at tafe for 12 months so have used all of the above and premier once you learn how to use it defiantly is the best way to go, it allows you alot more options and really will let you define your kite vid to whatever you want it too look like, really makes the difference from a home movie to a professional sorta feel. and as for the cost it is expensive but who needs a registered copy anyway
desmond
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16 Feb 2007 5:14pm
quote:
Originally posted by monkey

Tonk07, I think by HD Lewis meant HARD-DISK and not Hi Definition...
but for video editing, you can't go wrong with a mac. Thats what its built for...




hahaha was that meant to be funny?
Gstar
Gstar
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391 posts
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16 Feb 2007 6:36pm
MACs where its at....Do IT ..DO IT............. Do IT
Final Cut Studio...Insane. Pair it with Shake, you've got all the tools a budding Tronolone would ever need
LEWISS
LEWISS
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335 posts
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16 Feb 2007 10:35pm
monkey: No mate I have a Sony High Defenition camera that records onto mini DVD's. Problem though... when i put the dvd's into my computer, the computer doesnt recognise them.. when I plug the camera into the computer it just says connecting for about, well all day!

Thanks for all the great and quick responses. I have been looking at getting myself a MAC computer.

THANKS.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
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16 Feb 2007 9:56pm
vegas

and mac kiks 4 vid making
Saffer
Saffer
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17 Feb 2007 12:05am
quote:
Originally posted by kitecrazzzy

vegas

and mac kiks 4 vid making



I agree

Vegas is the bomb
t o b y
t o b y
WA
530 posts
WA, 530 posts
16 Feb 2007 10:05pm
2c - premiere and after effects ;)
amp
amp
67 posts
amp amp
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16 Feb 2007 10:09pm
^^what he said
doppelganger
doppelganger
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17 Feb 2007 2:21am
Ditto- PP2 and AE
monkey
monkey
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251 posts
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17 Feb 2007 3:23am
my apologies...tonk007

Lewis, so if you're gonna be editing in Hi Definition.... thats definitely gonna take up MEGA memory. I strongly suggest dont bother working with HD for a start as when you export to a DVD file, it will automatically be shrinked into an SD file.

HD only shows up if you have a Hi Definition TV. Takes alot of memory and hence forever to render..

As for digitizing, I'm not sure what programme you're using but you can try digitizing it manually, like once it is connected to the comp open up your video editing software,
click on capture and then press "play" manually on your camera.. try and see if it works

Boxburg
Boxburg
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144 posts
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17 Feb 2007 11:40am
Imovie HD is the best entry level program IMHO and Macs are bulletproof. I run an advertising agency and we use about 40 macs for high end television production, graphic design and all the other crap we do to convince everyone to buy stuff they don't want or need.
The good thing about using the I-life suite of products (apart from the fact that they come free with your Mac and are insanely easy to use with professional looking results) is that it organises your stuff like music and photos as well. You can augment your vid with stills, publish the movie to the web, and create video podcasts, video blogs etc with Iweb (free) as well. All the programs talk to each other seamlessly. Add to that Garageband which is also free and you'll find yourself even composing the soundtracks without too much effort.
andrewm
andrewm
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243 posts
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17 Feb 2007 11:11am
I use Ulead video studio pro 10.

My camera writes onto mini DVDs too and once I finalize the disc I just stick it in and Ulead imports it into my library so you dont have to stuff around with 3rd party conversion
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
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17 Feb 2007 2:26pm
if say you are using a PC, I cant seem to get the windows movie maker to read or edit a dvd movie from the video camera dvd(I think it is a .vob file)?

does this mean I need adobe or similar to capture, read, convert and edit the video camera dvd files so they can cut down and edited to usable files for the web or emailing? I can copy the files onto the PC and play them with Nero but thats about it.

any comments please
cheers
Poida
doppelganger
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17 Feb 2007 7:38pm
This forum can answer all your questions......

http://australasiancamcorder.info/bbs/index.php?sid=288692c5073225a3bfc74f8faf5698f2

The answer may be in past posts or just post and they would be than happy to help and recommend trail and freeware programs.

I have the full Adobe Studio suite and would have been lost without there help. Adobe Studio normally retails around $3000.00,but if your a student or meet the guidelines, the education version is about $850.00, and yes you get the full manuals and access to the Adobe member help centre.

Steve
monkey
monkey
NSW
251 posts
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17 Feb 2007 8:01pm
yeah ask around and make full use of student discounts! My uni has a mac shop and they give discounts for everything down to the ipod! think all mac shops do that, even on the website... like 10-15% discount.

Yeah, imovie comes in the package with ilife. You can mix up some loops using garage band and you've got yourself a soundtrack!

c923322
c923322
QLD
12 posts
QLD, 12 posts
17 Feb 2007 11:14pm
ride a real kite first lewiss

quote:
Originally posted by sunseeker

I have used Pinnacle Studio and Cyberlink Power Director. Both of these are easy to use and fairly basic on terms of editing functionality.

If you want to get a bit more serious you will need something like Adobe or Final Cut Pro (you won't want to be shelling out cash for these though...)

Also, check out this review:
www.toptenreviews.com/best-video-editing-software

LEWISS
LEWISS
NSW
335 posts
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18 Feb 2007 11:16am
what like a fhit BOW kite like u ride.

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