I'm having trouble finding what works best for me in terms of line position on pigtails and at the bar and wanted to see what works best for people.

Firstly, for a 10m I'm flying it with the front pigtails in the front (closest to LE) position with the lines attached at the end of the pigtail. The back pigtail is in the fast setting (closest to the trailing edge). At the bar I've set the rear lines on the second knot from the end (the end being furthest from the bar).

I've just picked up a 14m and having read through all the stuff on forums and instruction manuals was going to set it up exactly the same, except move the back line attachment at the bar one knot further back than my 10m set up.

I have a bar for each kite so can set the bar up and leave it that way. I'm using all the 06 stock gear.

The only other thing I've done is bring the Vario Cleat closer to the bar (I have short arms and like being able to release the bar and still have some power). I probably moved it 10cm closer.

I can tell with the 10m - it's just not quite dialled as what it could be.

What works for others?

And yep, the first thing I'm going to do is recheck that all my lines are equal length. The above settings were worked out by me on the beach with no regard to equal line lengths, just finding out what seemed to work. My guess is that the rear lines may be a touch too short.

Sounds like my 12m is setup the same way as your 10m. Sometimes fly it with rear lines one knot closer to the bar in lighter winds. However, pretty easy to oversheet on this setting. Rather have the rear lines a little slacker on the second knot and use the bar a bit more. From memory, the distance from bar to vario cleat is approx. 40cm. Could increase the distance, but gives me great depower as-is without having to stretch arms out too much.

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Originally posted by brooksy

Firstly, for a 10m I'm flying it with the front pigtails in the front (closest to LE) position with the lines attached at the end of the pigtail. The back pigtail is in the fast setting (closest to the trailing edge). At the bar I've set the rear lines on the second knot from the end (the end being furthest from the bar).

I've just picked up a 14m and having read through all the stuff on forums and instruction manuals was going to set it up exactly the same, except move the back line attachment at the bar one knot further back than my 10m set up.

I have a bar for each kite so can set the bar up and leave it that way. I'm using all the 06 stock gear.

The only other thing I've done is bring the Vario Cleat closer to the bar (I have short arms and like being able to release the bar and still have some power). I probably moved it 10cm closer.

I can tell with the 10m - it's just not quite dialled as what it could be.

What works for others?

And yep, the first thing I'm going to do is recheck that all my lines are equal length. The above settings were worked out by me on the beach with no regard to equal line lengths, just finding out what seemed to work. My guess is that the rear lines may be a touch too short.

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I am getting an 06 Vegas. I have heard mixed reports on the low end of this kite. Economics dictates that I can only have a 1 kite quiver. Anyway, I am 75kgs I currently have the 06 Rhino, should I go for the 14 Vegas or the 12. I am leaning toward the 12. I would say that the majority of my kiting is done in around 15 to 20 knots. That is not to say that the odd 25 knot day doesn't come around.

Thanks.

I'm 68kgs and I have found the range of my 12m to be 13-25 knots with my 126x37.5 board. Most comfortable range is approx. 14-22. I would probably go the 12 so you have the flexibility of having a bit less kite in the air on those windier/gusty days. The 12 should be fine from 15 knots given you're a few kgs heavier than me. If you're looking for a used 06 12m send me a PM. Now looking at 07 gear.

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Originally posted by cammck

I am getting an 06 Vegas. I have heard mixed reports on the low end of this kite. Economics dictates that I can only have a 1 kite quiver. Anyway, I am 75kgs I currently have the 06 Rhino, should I go for the 14 Vegas or the 12. I am leaning toward the 12. I would say that the majority of my kiting is done in around 15 to 20 knots. That is not to say that the odd 25 knot day doesn't come around.

Thanks.

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Dont you mean 'lucky you have paul to smash your kites into the water and constantly wash them'??????????

The bottom end on the Vegas 06's is better than on a conventional kite of the same size. I used to have 18-14-10 "C" kites and now have a 14-10 Vegas setup. I dont find that I miss out on much bottom end between the 18 C and the 14 Vegas. BUT - in light wind, using the micro hook is a must on the Vegas bar. When hooked in, you can just use your arms to turn the kite quickly and create apprant wind at full power, rather then trying to sheet in and steer at the same time.

Thanks Gilbo. I think that is the way to go. I can get my hands on one of the last 14's around, apparently. I am going to keep the 12m 06 Rhino that I have, or sell it and get a 10m. Here's hoping there will be a one kite quiver one day. Maybe the Rebel will do it.