Transcript of conversation with Bob regarding Venoms (peter lynn foils)

Hi Bob

I noticed your post , in particular your comment that you need to understand how they work to get the best out of them in light winds. Could you elaborate? I really struggle in 14 -18 knots ..
With my Venom 2
I weigh 85 kgs.

Also I have not found the water relaunch easy as some have said.

Tks jeremy

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Hi Jeremy
If your kite is crashed in the taco possession, simply reach forward grab the adjustment strap on the Centre lines and a pull with very long and vigorous strokes. If the kite is leading edge down. Once again pull in on the front lines giving as much slack as possible to the rears, the kite will then lay flat and launch inverted. As quick as possible turn the kite and crash it leading edge down try to do this before the kite gathers any speed. Once it is leading edge down repeat the procedure with the front lines and the kite should lay flat and relaunch the correct way up. If you have twists in your line get back to shore and solve the problem.
The best way to get performance from any Peter Lynn arc is to fly the bastard like you hate it. And the way to do this is to make your turns using one arm and releasing the other hand. Crank the bar as hard as possible so that the end of the bar is almost touching the chicken loop line. Because you are only using one hand this will also stop you from over sheeting the kite. This is one of the main thing that kills the venoms performance in light wind. Over sheeting our real no-no, the kites rely dramatically on flying fast and creating apparent wind. Most people tend to keep sheeting out the power strap thinking it is going to generate more power. This is true to a point. But when you go too far in light wind it just causes inefficiency. As a matter of fact I think I've fly my own kite less powered in light wind than I do in fresh.

Anyway the best advice is fly the bastard like to hate it without over sheeting.

Cheers Bob

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Hi Bob Thanks

I would just like to clarify a few points;
1) Relaunching leading edge up..a few long vigorous pulls on the front lines ....no worries , that has worked for me
2) Relaunching leading edge down....are you saying you deliberately invert the kite, crash it again and then by pulling on frontlines it will launch uninverting itself in the process
3) Over sheeting ..i'm not quite sure what you mean by this , i presume you are referring to pulling the bar down ie powering up. If this is right you are saying , pulling the bar in to much is a no no with Arc's in certain winds..especially light winds.
4) In light winds turn the bar hard without pulling the bar in to much ie without over sheeting? Is that what you mean.
5) Just as a matter of interest i virtually have my power strap ( front line adjustment ) out to the maximal length unless the winds are 25 knots plus . Where do you most commonly have the strap adjusted to ?
6) The adjustment strap in the kite itself ...i tighten this in light winds and let it out completely in realy strong winds ...do you adjust this much?


Thanks for replying ..i appreciate your advice..Jeremy
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Hi Jeremy

First three questions are correct. Number four, is correct but also try releasing one hand, the kite or turn much much quicker. Number five. It's almost impossible to answer this question and lets both our kites are set up exactly the same. A good rule of thumb is to park the kite above your head pull the bar in as far as possible, the kite should flair just a little and it should not back down. All of this advice is for light wind. Number six I always have the outside adjustment straps at about 25 per cent on and the centre adjustment at about 25 to 50% on. If you over tightening the centre adjustment in light wind you will find the kite will tend to stall. The little trick I gave you about parking the kite and pulling the bar in should tell you if you're kite is tuned properly. Just remember you are trying to get maximum speed out of the kite, this will give you more usable power rather than raw power, which may cause stalling.

Cheers Bob.

PS if you find this advice helpful perhaps you could pass it on to other people via the Arcuses Forum.

This isn't specific to the topic but where did you get your PL Venom 2 and did you get the color you wanted? I can't get the answers to the questions I ask from Kiteworks. I fly the the 15M Bomba and can get going in 6 to 7 knots on a surfboard, and I do agree you have to really pull that bar to the chicken loop and beyond to get going in light winds. I am after the 16M

Sambo

I thought Bob was saying not to oversheet ie not to pull the bar right down to get the best out of the kite.

jeremy

I have been answering your emails but we are having probs with the email (our land line is crap going for wireless)Please call me and I will call you back

regards

Lach

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Originally posted by Samb0

This isn't specific to the topic but where did you get your PL Venom 2 and did you get the color you wanted? I can't get the answers to the questions I ask from Kiteworks. I fly the the 15M Bomba and can get going in 6 to 7 knots on a surfboard, and I do agree you have to really pull that bar to the chicken loop and beyond to get going in light winds. I am after the 16M

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