Vid of lightwind kiting @ Lake Como

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ianyoung
ianyoung
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8 Sep 2009 12:33am


May not be hard core ... but at least the Flysurfer crew were having some fun when everyone else was on the beach!
ianyoung
ianyoung
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8 Sep 2009 6:36pm
What, no flaming????? OMG what's going on???
Jono
Jono
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8 Sep 2009 9:08pm
Thats because all the inflateable boys hate the idea that doonas are in fact a better wind machine . They all own inflateables because everyone else ownes one not because they are better. Its the sheep mentality, they cant help themselves.
manicskier
manicskier
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8 Sep 2009 11:11pm
baaaaa
swoosh
swoosh
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8 Sep 2009 11:22pm
whats the trick at 0:30 called?

ewan kite
ewan kite
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9 Sep 2009 12:41pm
Jono said...

Thats because all the inflateable boys hate the idea that doonas are in fact a better wind machine . They all own inflateables because everyone else ownes one not because they are better. Its the sheep mentality, they cant help themselves.


ohhh, that explains y all the pros ride them....
ewan kite
ewan kite
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9 Sep 2009 12:45pm
swoosh said...

whats the trick at 0:30 called?




its a low mobe, but he didnt land it
sci
sci
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sci sci
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9 Sep 2009 10:49am
ewan kite said...

Jono said...

Thats because all the inflateable boys hate the idea that doonas are in fact a better wind machine . They all own inflateables because everyone else ownes one not because they are better. Its the sheep mentality, they cant help themselves.


ohhh, that explains y all the pros ride them....


Because Jono wants to kick something off. Dont go for it.

Idiot
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9 Sep 2009 11:05am
Jono said...

... Its the sheep mentality, they cant help themselves.


Its a bit harsh mate.
I'm suggesting that you & I should open our minds to try every different type of kites and see which one we feel comfortable with.
And compare the cost as well, it`s an important factor!!
stabber
stabber
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9 Sep 2009 5:33pm
flysurfer $3K ...cabrinha $1500! .....choice made.....
myusernam
myusernam
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9 Sep 2009 5:55pm
DANGLEFEST. Where are the dangle police?
Idiot
Idiot
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9 Sep 2009 4:15pm
stabber said...

flysurfer $3K ...cabrinha $1500! .....choice made.....


I said it's a factor, I didn't say it's that easy.
You can say than every kite is around $1500 and Eclipse is $700 so..., can you choose now?

(Edit: maybe you are right cause I'm thinking about getting one 12m Thruster )
bennie
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9 Sep 2009 8:05pm
stabber said...

flysurfer $3K ...cabrinha $1500! .....choice made.....


What cabs are $1500 retail?, 12m switchys are about $2200. You can pick up a 10m pulse 2(almost a one kite quiver) for about the same price. Peter lynns are even cheaper
decdok
decdok
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9 Sep 2009 9:03pm
one word... STYLE
Jono
Jono
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10 Sep 2009 10:18am
Ahh style ,I thought it was about kitesurfing.Style is for metros and sheep
ianyoung
ianyoung
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10 Sep 2009 10:44am
Here's some more guys having fun in light wind for you
... why was a Flysurfer the only one out I wonder?
Idiot
Idiot
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10 Sep 2009 10:57am
ianyoung said...

Here's some more guys having fun in light wind ...


OT

Hi Ian
I heard that you are a very experienced Hang gliding pilot!
Why did you give up flying?
(Each time I'm talking about kite surfing to other pilots they all mentioning your name)
sir ROWDY
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WA
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10 Sep 2009 11:11am
ewan kite said...

swoosh said...

whats the trick at 0:30 called?




its a low mobe, but he didnt land it


I know you probably know no better, but a "low mobe" is just another kiteboarding screw up, it doesn't exist.
It's just called a "Back Mobe", or origanally known as a "Mobius".
If you add the prefix "low" on the front it is like saying "ATM machine"......
When you do what you would class as a "high mobe" its called a pullup.
Gorgo
Gorgo
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10 Sep 2009 1:22pm
ianyoung said...

Here's some more guys having fun in light wind for you
... why was a Flysurfer the only one out I wonder?



Beautiful imagery.

There's a simple three step plan that will almost guarantee kite sales:
1. Make demo kites readily available at all popular kiting areas.
2. Get some brand ambassadors out at the kiting areas so the kites can be seen showing their stuff.
3. Bring the prices down to match at least the premium brands.

I buy name brand kites from a local shop but even those I will not buy until I have had a test ride.

Brand ambassadors don't need to be pro riders, just competent experienced riders. Personality and communication is probably more important the extreme skill.

You need to prove that the cost per kite vs cost per quiver is at least on a par with premium brands. It's ok if individual kites cost more as long as the whole quiver is not too much more. Durability and longevity only matter in terms of resale. I get bored with kites after 2-3 years so I want to trade up and get new toys.

The light wind thing is a bit debatable. I ride happily powered in 12 knots on my 12m Switchblade. Certainly before any other riders around here.

My new 3 kite bow quiver should take me down to 10 and possibly 8 knots with a top end of 40+ knots for the price of two Flysurfers. Again, you have to prove to me that a two kite FS quiver would have the sweet spots as well covered as 3 bows. Three kites also gives me multiple redundancy in case of equipment failure. Is it tempting fate to say that since using name brand bow kites my total repair bill has been about 100mm of repair tape? My time lost to equipment failure is zero.
Jacques
Jacques
NSW
159 posts
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10 Sep 2009 2:04pm
ianyoung said...

Here's some more guys having fun in light wind for you
... why was a Flysurfer the only one out I wonder?

To be perfectly correct, I was not the only one out that day, but probably the only one able to kite for 2 hours without having to ever do the "walk-of-shame"? ;)


Gorgo, in term of windranges, I think modern Flysurfer kites are similar to modern bow/hybrid tube kites. Hence the best is still a 3 kites quiver also with this kind of toys (I have 3 Flysrufers: 15m, 10m, 6m covering well the wind range you mentioned).

One thing to keep in mind when talking price is the resale value which is pretty good on Flysurfers (if compared to tubes) and also the fact their "shelf life" is a bit better too (that's my opinion anyway).

Not trying to specifically promote the brand (it does not bother me at all to only see a few Flysurfers around), but if anyone is curious and want to try my kites, give us a shout, always keen to share the passion I have for these. :D

Bye
Jacques
ianyoung
ianyoung
WA
649 posts
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10 Sep 2009 12:37pm
Yes I did fly hang gliders and paragliders formore than 10 years but once I moved back to Perth is was much easier and just as much fun to go kiting. Getting a leave pass to go flying for a weekend was almost impossible whereas walking down to Scarbs for a couple of hours was not so much of a problem.

I've flown just about every type of kite made and I love Flysurfer for value for money including the total "fun factor", least of which is max 5 minute setup and easy water relaunch :-)

Another thing to consider is that the bottom end performance of Flysurfers means that you don't have to switch kites, nor walk back up the beach as often.

I started importing them only because nobody else would and I wanted them for myself as well as teaching with them.

If anybody wants to find their local "Flysurfer ambassador" then please contact me - like Jacques, most guys who fly them are more than happy to let a competant kiter see the many benefits for themselves
ewan kite
ewan kite
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10 Sep 2009 2:44pm
sir ROWDY said...

ewan kite said...

swoosh said...

whats the trick at 0:30 called?




its a low mobe, but he didnt land it


I know you probably know no better, but a "low mobe" is just another kiteboarding screw up, it doesn't exist.
It's just called a "Back Mobe", or origanally known as a "Mobius".
If you add the prefix "low" on the front it is like saying "ATM machine"......
When you do what you would class as a "high mobe" its called a pullup.

mmm ok. how do we distinguish between that and a PKRA standard mobe, is that just like different kite hight, so more score for the lower kite hight, or do they score completely diferently coz they are 'different tricks'?
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
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10 Sep 2009 2:44pm
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