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chrwar

QLD

272 posts

chrwar

QLD, 272 posts

8 Jul 2010 2:41pm

Next years freestyle national titles being held in Alva Beach, Ayr, offers a unique situation to all kiteboarders. The event committee is super keen to make this event a multi discipline event including the freestyle nationals with a race element and the possibility of a wakestyle discipline.

I have been given the role of organising the freestyle and wakestyle events from a competition point of view, ie, format, judging criteria, etc etc. I believe the freestyle side of the house is quite simple, we just continue following the previous years framework which is closely paralleled with PKRA events. It is the wakestyle event I want to see be a huge success. This will take the riders out there who are dominant wakestyle riders putting their hands up and getting involved.

For this to work I need to know now if riders would come to Alva if presented with the opportunity to be crowned the first ever wakestyle national kiteboard champion?

The format will include obstacles and flatwater tricks, similar to a comp pass behind boat or cable runs. The rider will have two tacks and negotiate rails, kickers and flatwater based elements. The judges will come from elite wakeboarding ranks, and will be judged as legitimate as possible.
Please let me know via this forum or by email your thoughts. I need to know soon as it will need to obtain funding etc. The more riders support this the easier it will be to get this off the ground and make it mainstay for future kiteboarding titles!

Cheers Chris Wardell

Adventure Sports Noosa

QLD

481 posts

Adventure Sports Noosa

QLD, 481 posts

8 Jul 2010 2:47pm

Hi Chris

If you want to get this out there, shoot it through to all the kiteshops so we can get it out to our customers & promote the idea. Sounds awesome, it would be really good to see this event go forward.

Have Fun!
Fiona

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

8 Jul 2010 1:10pm

Hmmmm me and Cam already had ideas about running a wakestyle national titles with sliders and kickers. I'm all for the idea, however I'm not sure that running it at the same time as the freestyle titles is a good idea, also I'm not sure whether Alva is a suitable location for it.

Jeff2231

NSW

416 posts

Jeff2231

NSW, 416 posts

8 Jul 2010 3:10pm

It's about time someone held an event worth watching!

PsYLoR

QLD

927 posts

PsYLoR

QLD, 927 posts

8 Jul 2010 4:38pm

even better would be to do a kicker and slider 'tour' and go all round aus and make it more a fun thing and the winners can be chosen at the very end and how ever you like, best overall , best trick, best stack. etc

the cost to enter will count towards the cost of transporting the sliders everywhere. But you can ride as much as you like and follow the tour or wait till it comes near you.

That sounds more fun and a better way to crown a "national champ" to me.

scoop

86 posts

scoop

86 posts

8 Jul 2010 3:26pm

Psylor, nice in theory but a pipe dream in reality surely?

Wakestyle doesn’t have a strong enough following or the financial backing to see a tour set up (yet). How many people really ride boots and can hit obstacles to a high level?

If you had one big main event then you'd probably get 15-20 riders enter. If you had separate events around Oz you’d probably get 5 riders max at each location that were at a comp level.

Transporting features from say Alva/Mackay - Noosa/Tannum - Brissie/Goldie – down to Newcastle/Sydney - all the way to Melbourne, and then out to Woodies would be impossible/huge bucks. The other option would be to build features for each location but that means huge building hours, lots of people putting their hands up to help and big bucks ($5k min for a decent set of features at each spot). It just won’t happen. Not to mention how many kiters have the funds or time to cruise around to different events all over the country?

If you have one big event in conjunction with the freestyle nationals then at least you could share infrastructure, volunteers, sponsors and resources. Also, a fair few of the freestyle riders would go in both events. There’d only be a handful of kiters in Oz who exclusively ride boots/wakestyle. Most enjoy dabbling in both.

chrwar

QLD

272 posts

chrwar

QLD, 272 posts

8 Jul 2010 5:44pm

Scoop, you are spot on here!

This is a great opportunity to test the waters so to speak and offer those riders a choice!

You can ride in both or for that matter all three (including race)!

Having a rail tour is not off the table, it will take local spots taking the bull by the horns and building stuff locally and holding the event with local support. Similar to what is happening now with park riding. This year alone will see three distinct park events, Core Jam held in WA, the Mackay rail jam just gone and the Rail Rodeo to be held in Brissy later this year. If riders support these events then the next step is to separate the disciplines and have an elite level comp once a year fro wakestyle?

The plan is to have a few more clinics run around the country similar to the Mackay event, so we can teach more riders about park style and hopefully grab more attention and support. This will give riders a choice, freestyle is very competitive and difficult to stay in the game competitively speaking.

Keep the input up and lets see where this can go?

jackgearo

NSW

331 posts

jackgearo

NSW, 331 posts

8 Jul 2010 8:13pm

why have it all structured? why not just run it similar to core?

YoMoFo

NSW

240 posts

YoMoFo

NSW, 240 posts

9 Jul 2010 8:27am

such a sic idea.

KBM

QLD

223 posts

KBM

QLD, 223 posts

9 Jul 2010 8:52am

jackgearo said...

why have it all structured? why not just run it similar to core?

Now this is a seriously good idea -

run the Nationals after the core - Slider JAM
Talk to Toby and find out his plans
I have his contact details -
All the hard work of building the sliders will be done - the Australians simply have to rock up -
You could then get it judged by pros like Dre and Norman /
Sponsors would be happy because they would not be asked twice to give money to build 2 sets of obstacles - and get double the exposure for their investment -

This could save a month of building obstacles

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

9 Jul 2010 9:56am

Good ideas bruce

, me and Cam have thought of this a few times already. Another option will be running the Nationals in Brisbane or somewhere over the East coast (such as elliot heads) as me and Cam will have our own set of obstacles which may infact be better than core and will be our own to use and transport where we like.
Using the stuff from core is a good idea, but seeing they are not ours to use (they are Tobys) and we will not have permission to use the waterways it might be a hard task. Also there may be another core jam in an undisclosed country shortly after the core jam in WA so people possibly won't be hanging around long either.
I'm guessing it will come down to whatever me and Cam build for the RailRodeo later this year (october 16th) as I can't see anyone else putting together some massive structures for no money. Our stuff will be fairly portable so moving it to great locations shouldn't be to hard a task.

Charl dv

2485 posts

Charl dv

WA, 2485 posts

9 Jul 2010 12:44pm

im with rowdy on this.. simply because getting **** down to woodies is a mission! having it over east could be more beneficial too seeing as 90% of wakestyle riders in aus lives over that side.

true WA locals consist of only 8 or so people. rather have 8 fly over there than 20 + flying here, more convenient. other thing is you have the cable riders there you can convince to judge it so you know its legit. just lke at core 2 yrs ago they had wakeboarders judging and the judges were legit until kiters started judging and just giving any clown who can spin the fastest the most points...

I think it would be an awesome idea having like 3 rails to hit a kicker then flat water afterwards. as if you mix flat inbetween if u crash u float around blocking up the sliders type of thing. so maybe cut in hit 3 obstacles, boot off the kicker and if you land your stuff you can get a flat water trick in?

INTHELOOP

QLD

1855 posts

INTHELOOP

QLD, 1855 posts

9 Jul 2010 4:52pm

sir ROWDY said...

Hmmmm me and Cam already had ideas about running a wakestyle national titles with sliders and kickers. I'm all for the idea, however I'm not sure that running it at the same time as the freestyle titles is a good idea, also I'm not sure whether Alva is a suitable location for it.

I am pretty sure that it will fit perfectly into the program and a lot of people riding freestyle also ride kickers/sliders.
Some people ride it all, race, freestyle and wakestyle. These guys are probably your most versatile riders.

Alva is the perfect spot to place obstacles in the water. Massive flatwater lagoons with knee to waist deep water. The tides on Anzac day weekend 2011 in Alva will be perfect to put place them.

Get cracking Rowdy on Wakestyle Nationals 2011 in Alva!

INTHELOOP

QLD

1855 posts

INTHELOOP

QLD, 1855 posts

9 Jul 2010 4:58pm

chrwar said...

Next years freestyle national titles being held in Alva Beach, Ayr, offers a unique situation to all kiteboarders. The event committee is super keen to make this event a multi discipline event including the freestyle nationals with a race element and the possibility of a wakestyle discipline.

I have been given the role of organising the freestyle and wakestyle events from a competition point of view, ie, format, judging criteria, etc etc. I believe the freestyle side of the house is quite simple, we just continue following the previous years framework which is closely paralleled with PKRA events. It is the wakestyle event I want to see be a huge success. This will take the riders out there who are dominant wakestyle riders putting their hands up and getting involved.

For this to work I need to know now if riders would come to Alva if presented with the opportunity to be crowned the first ever wakestyle national kiteboard champion?

The format will include obstacles and flatwater tricks, similar to a comp pass behind boat or cable runs. The rider will have two tacks and negotiate rails, kickers and flatwater based elements. The judges will come from elite wakeboarding ranks, and will be judged as legitimate as possible.
Please let me know via this forum or by email your thoughts. I need to know soon as it will need to obtain funding etc. The more riders support this the easier it will be to get this off the ground and make it mainstay for future kiteboarding titles!

Cheers Chris Wardell begin_of_the_skype_highlighting end_of_the_skype_highlighting

Awesome!
I think its a great opportunity to finally get wakesyle into the program of running national competitions.
The time is right and Alva is a prime spot for it.

jackgearo

NSW

331 posts

jackgearo

NSW, 331 posts

9 Jul 2010 11:44pm

dont know about the distances between cam and rowdys place to alva but wouldnt it just be easier to run them at the rail rodeo to save having to move the sliders and kickers around too far?

Rhys McClintock

NSW

995 posts

Rhys McClintock

NSW, 995 posts

10 Jul 2010 11:57am

its like a 12-14 hour drive from Cams place to Alva lol...

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

11 Jul 2010 7:19pm

Jack and Rhys are on the money haha.
Don't get me wrong I'm mega pumped that you want to run the Kiteboard (wakestyle) nationals and combine it with all the other stuff happening on those days (race, freestyle etc.) but I think you may be underestimating the whole task at hand. I have visions for awesome rails and stuff that is really going to make this an event to remember. Building this stuff, transporting it, moving it into the water and making it all happen is an event in itself. It isn't something that is just going to run along side everything else on it's own.
I think running it either around a similar time of year to the Rail Rodeo in Brisbane or possibly transporting the stuff either as far north as Elliot heads or as far south as Old bar (if the locals are keen) is the best option for both organisational logistics and competitors alike.

NumNutz

QLD

403 posts

NumNutz

QLD, 403 posts

11 Jul 2010 9:24pm

yeah all for a wakestyle nationals, big mission to transport rails from bris to alva though if you guys were thinking of that.

Random

QLD

68 posts

Random

QLD, 68 posts

11 Jul 2010 10:02pm

sir ROWDY said...

I'm guessing it will come down to whatever me and Cam build for the RailRodeo later this year (october 16th) as I can't see anyone else putting together some massive structures for no money. Our stuff will be fairly portable so moving it to great locations shouldn't be to hard a task.

lets us know when you building if you want some help.

Robert

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

11 Jul 2010 8:21pm

Thanks man! I will keep the Breeze updated with how it's going and sing out if I think there is anything that someone could lend us a hand with.
I'm actually really surprised with the amount of people I have had offer to help in some way, it's really great to see! Hopefully the Rail Rodeo will be a great event for all involved, even people who aren't really into hitting rails. I hope that the kiteboard nationals are equally as good.

INTHELOOP

QLD

1855 posts

INTHELOOP

QLD, 1855 posts

11 Jul 2010 10:57pm

NumNutz said...

yeah all for a wakestyle nationals, big mission to transport rails from bris to alva though if you guys were thinking of that.

not a big mission from mackay to alva

jackgearo

NSW

331 posts

jackgearo

NSW, 331 posts

11 Jul 2010 11:39pm

OLD BAR

jas73

QLD

796 posts

jas73

QLD, 796 posts

12 Jul 2010 8:32am

Those of us who where moving stuff in Makay at the slider jam know its a task where you need alot of hands to make it work. If you could only get the financial backing from someone to build them all out of ally and other light weight materials, you then would have a set of obstacles to use anywhere you want. Who knows someone who wants to sponsor a touring slider comp???

scoop

86 posts

scoop

86 posts

12 Jul 2010 7:37am

OLD BAR x2!

flano

113 posts

flano

WA, 113 posts

12 Jul 2010 8:40am

good idea but u would have dangle riders coming in and moaning about there placment because of there lack of wakestyle

PsYLoR

QLD

927 posts

PsYLoR

QLD, 927 posts

12 Jul 2010 2:45pm

flano said...

good idea but u would have dangle riders coming in and moaning about there placment because of there lack of wakestyle

LOL thats weak

bobdaboarder

NSW

185 posts

bobdaboarder

NSW, 185 posts

12 Jul 2010 3:15pm

OLD BAR X3

PsYLoR

QLD

927 posts

PsYLoR

QLD, 927 posts

12 Jul 2010 3:18pm

No make it the PIN it 10 x better than old bar and 10 x harder to get to. Yeah that would be great!

NumNutz

QLD

403 posts

NumNutz

QLD, 403 posts

12 Jul 2010 7:21pm

should make it narrowneck..

sir ROWDY

5378 posts

sir ROWDY

WA, 5378 posts

12 Jul 2010 6:42pm

I think your thinking of lebbos not kiteboarders.

INTHELOOP

QLD

1855 posts

INTHELOOP

QLD, 1855 posts

13 Jul 2010 4:10pm

alright enough of all that!

lets get back on the topic boys, its time for some constructive posting

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