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twig
twig
QLD
144 posts
QLD, 144 posts
3 Feb 2007 10:01pm
anyone had any breackages on waroos?
kiterpilot
kiterpilot
WA
249 posts
WA, 249 posts
3 Feb 2007 10:36pm
No... however send it back for a replacement no questions asked

regards browneee
NumNutz
NumNutz
QLD
403 posts
QLD, 403 posts
3 Feb 2007 11:41pm
hey twigs ryan was ridin my waroo 9 today.. and that bar he was riding is 2 seasons old... the rope had to give way soon...it had copped a flogging...
rooey
rooey
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
3 Feb 2007 11:58pm
Mr Best himself was in Noosa recently,even checked out the N/Rivmth,pitty he's not tuned into S.B,he could have answered your thread Twig,himself and team certainly give there kites a flogging!
twig
twig
QLD
144 posts
QLD, 144 posts
4 Feb 2007 12:44am
cam, i heard about lots of other breakages. Now i'm still gona get a waroo, ryan convinced me by saying he was frothing at the mouth when he was riding your waroo.
goon dogg
goon dogg
QLD
30 posts
QLD, 30 posts
4 Feb 2007 12:58am
harry just stick with a peter lynn ,

you will progress much quicker and they are excellent at relaunching when in water
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
4 Feb 2007 2:48am
you guys should just rebel! cause you are so rebellious.

you know you'll thank me.
West
West
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
4 Feb 2007 2:13am
quote:
Originally posted by goon dogg

harry just stick with a peter lynn ,

you will progress much quicker and they are excellent at relaunching when in water



just buy some roller blades, stuff getting wet whilst flying a kite!
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
4 Feb 2007 2:47am
Two seasons on the one length of chicken rope!!! Damn that's lucky... you're too tight fisted with your own, and everyone elses, safety though.

I can't comment on the 07 bars yet, I'm still waiting on mine to arrive... it's been how many months now since they were ordered
NumNutz
NumNutz
QLD
403 posts
QLD, 403 posts
4 Feb 2007 12:37pm
hey azza pitty your arse accomadates for a fisting.. no lube no spit...get a life
Felix KF
Felix KF
NSW
169 posts
NSW, 169 posts
4 Feb 2007 4:57pm
quote:
Originally posted by goon dogg

harry just stick with a peter lynn ,

you will progress much quicker and they are excellent at relaunching when in water




I hope your kidding... that's a joke... right ?
Felix KF
Felix KF
NSW
169 posts
NSW, 169 posts
4 Feb 2007 5:20pm
quote:
Originally posted by azza

Two seasons on the one length of chicken rope!!! Damn that's lucky... you're too tight fisted with your own, and everyone elses, safety though.

I can't comment on the 07 bars yet, I'm still waiting on mine to arrive... it's been how many months now since they were ordered



Hey Azza,

Think really hard before you shell out the bucks for an 07 bar. I love my two new Waroos... they are fantastic kites. The bar was a real dissapointment.

No back up strap for the depower. If anything breaks, your screwed. Would have cost Best about 4cents to put an extra length of webbing in.

Really crappy/stretchy lines... like elastic

My lines have stretched unevenly and I have had to adjust the lengths several times.

The chicken loop safety is poorly designed.

The swivel does'nt... have'nt met any one who's swivel does.

The bar itself is identicle to the Best bar I got 5 years ago but now its red and blue. Ooooo eeeeee....

They were even too stingy to put elastic line retainers on the bar for winding... gee... that would have been another 4 cents gone


I got the 07 bar because I thought the double depower system was clever... It is but the quality of the bar/rigging is a joke.

I must stress that the kites are awesome... no complaints there.

I wish I never got the bar, it was a waste of $350 and Ive only had it for 3 weeks.

I wish Best still had there 30day money back satisfaction guarantee, I would send it back in a jiffy.

I'm now going to make up my own bar and lines from bits and peices with the double depower system... not difficult to do.

I wish you could get a Waroo Kite with a Cabrinha or North Bar... it would be an ideal combo.

Happy to discuss it with you if you want to PM me


PS: If anyone still wants a 45cm Waroo 07 bar and rigging .. they can have my 3 week old one without a scratch on it, they can have it for a lot less than I paid for it... happy to cut my losses.
Munter
Munter
NSW
210 posts
NSW, 210 posts
4 Feb 2007 6:09pm
quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF

quote:
Originally posted by azza

Two seasons on the one length of chicken rope!!! Damn that's lucky... you're too tight fisted with your own, and everyone elses, safety though.

I can't comment on the 07 bars yet, I'm still waiting on mine to arrive... it's been how many months now since they were ordered



Hey Azza,

Think really hard before you shell out the bucks for an 07 bar. I
Really crappy/stretchy lines... like elastic

My lines have stretched unevenly and I have had to adjust the lengths several times.

The chicken loop safety is poorly designed.

The swivel does'nt... have'nt met any one who's swivel does.

The bar itself is identicle to the Best bar I got 5 years ago but now its red and blue. Ooooo eeeeee....


I wish I never got the bar, it was a waste of $350 and Ive only had it for 3 weeks.

I wish Best still had there 30day money back satisfaction guarantee, I would send it back in a jiffy.





Have Best dropped their 30 day guarantee?
windangoesoff
windangoesoff
NSW
280 posts
NSW, 280 posts
4 Feb 2007 6:13pm
anyone else think the same about the 07 bar? thinking about getting a waroo, if not the best bar, which bar would be good for that setup?
Bo
Bo
WA
192 posts
Bo Bo
WA, 192 posts
4 Feb 2007 4:16pm
Some pretty absurd stuff there Felix!
quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF
No back up strap for the depower. If anything breaks, your screwed. Would have cost Best about 4cents to put an extra length of webbing in.

I'd argue that exemplary design is clean & simple with high levels of functionality, which is exactly what the 07 bar delivers. One sturdy length of webbing is preferable to 2. 2 just increases the potential for tangles.

quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF
My lines have stretched unevenly and I have had to adjust the lengths several times.

All *new* lines stretch, it's pretty much common knowledge. The front lines of the Waroo take the most pressure so they'll stretch by 5-7cm after the first new sessions. Just swap the lines over (front to back) for a few session and measure them again. You'll see, now that they're fully stretched out, the lines will remain equal for good. Put them back the way they were (kook proof labels). If your kiting REALLY charges, you may have to repeat the above until the lines are fully stretched, unlikely for most kiters though...

quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF
The chicken loop safety is poorly designed.

Huh? You clinically depressed or something? It's great, I use it all the time. On land or in hairy conditions the leash should be hooked to the OSH not the chicken loop safety.

quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF
The swivel does'nt... have'nt met any one who's swivel does.

Mine swivels freely and always has.
quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF
They were even too stingy to put elastic line retainers on the bar for winding... gee... that would have been another 4 cents gone

Another lament for bar full of retainer line spaghetti? No thanks. The O7 Best bar fully rocks

But hey, go on then and make your own, free country. But DO consider taking any anti-depressants your doctor may have prescribed.

Bo

PS I also disagree with twig, the Waroos are as bomber as inflatable kites can be and they're HEAPS OF FUN...
Felix KF
Felix KF
NSW
169 posts
NSW, 169 posts
4 Feb 2007 6:58pm
TO BO:

1. The extra length of webbing only becomes functional if the buckle or depower webbing breaks... its just there as a back stop. Most other brands have them including North, Cab, Naish, Airush etc

2. Uniform stretching is ok. BUT: One front line stretched 5 inches.. the other 2 inches putting uneven tension on the leading edge. Same deal with the back lines. I know of 2 sets that have been returned by other people. Best have already admitted to a batch problem. You obviously think they are clinically depressed also.

3. The Best lines dont come with any kook proofing.. you've obviously never used one or you'd know that.

4. Who said anything about the saftety leash. I was referring to the chicken loop saftety release.... Read the comments fully in future before replying. Duh (or are you a Best Pimp)

5. The best forums are full of swivel complaints. You apparently got the only one in the country that works. (or your a Best Pimp)
6. I smell a Brand Pimp

7. Thank you for letting us know that your bar "FULLY ROCKS" man.

8. No need for personal attacks. My comments, unlike yours were genuine, unbias and honest. I also stated that I love the Waroos and think they are a great kite. If you disagree, then just disagree... dont go attacking people with comments like absurd and clinially depressed... its petty.
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
4 Feb 2007 7:01pm
Don't sweat it Felix.

"Bo" is one of them Best users or sellers that has a problem. A chip on their shoulder.Caused by the nagging thought that they dont have "real" kites,so they become belligerant and defensive at the slightest criticism of Best gear.

Bo was WAY out of line with his "clinical deppression" comments,just because you queried the quality of the Waroo bar.

I would bet that Bo has the depression problem,he seems to know a lot about it.

What medication are you on Bo?

Never mind,I would be depressed too if I was in your position !
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
4 Feb 2007 8:19pm
if you were smart and wanted to save time you would just strech your lines yourself before use instead of all this swapping business its easy as. just take your lines off, tie them to a tree, grab one end and pull as hard as you can for a bit. do this to all your lines and problemo solved.
goon dogg
goon dogg
QLD
30 posts
QLD, 30 posts
4 Feb 2007 10:19pm
yeh azza needs a 07 bar up his rabbit hole
Josh K
Josh K
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
4 Feb 2007 10:28pm
scuffin my airforces runnin through the hospital hall. dejavu like i been here before.......
elizabethb
elizabethb
QLD
2081 posts
QLD, 2081 posts
4 Feb 2007 11:03pm
quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF

quote:
Originally posted by goon dogg

harry just stick with a peter lynn ,

you will progress much quicker and they are excellent at relaunching when in water




I hope your kidding... that's a joke... right ?



Felix...

Dude I know you're probably a great kiter, but everyone is totally different. No need to criticize another's opinion.

We all ride different kites, brands, sizes, models and in different ways because, state the obvious, we all ride in different conditions and prefer different things to you. I know we all have bad days, but no need to take it out on a general SB convo dude.

Every kite has its 'ups and downs' to it. Most of these are known... If there is more to add, there is the review section...

Think yall need a good dose of salt water...

Goodwinds I really really hope!
goon dogg
goon dogg
QLD
30 posts
QLD, 30 posts
4 Feb 2007 11:12pm
hahahaha yeh that actually was a joke
twig
twig
QLD
144 posts
QLD, 144 posts
4 Feb 2007 11:25pm
hahaha didn' you read the.. and they are excelent for water launching
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
5 Feb 2007 12:03am
Me an heaps of mates have waroos, 06 have some miner issues after a good floggin. 07 tough as and more grunt.
Felix KF
Felix KF
NSW
169 posts
NSW, 169 posts
5 Feb 2007 9:43am
quote:
Originally posted by sir ROWDY

if you were smart and wanted to save time you would just strech your lines yourself before use instead of all this swapping business its easy as. just take your lines off, tie them to a tree, grab one end and pull as hard as you can for a bit. do this to all your lines and problemo solved.



Hi Rowdy,

Thanks for the tip. I agree with you, pre stretching is a good idea. My problem was that even after stretching, the lines were all ending up at different lenghts, particuarly after use. ie 4 lines, 4 very different lengths. Must be something to do with a variance in the weaves. This happened to a friend also.
Felix KF
Felix KF
NSW
169 posts
NSW, 169 posts
5 Feb 2007 10:01am
quote:
Originally posted by elizabethb

quote:
Originally posted by Felix KF

quote:
Originally posted by goon dogg

harry just stick with a peter lynn ,

you will progress much quicker and they are excellent at relaunching when in water




I hope your kidding... that's a joke... right ?



Felix...

Dude I know you're probably a great kiter, but everyone is totally different. No need to criticize another's opinion.

We all ride different kites, brands, sizes, models and in different ways because, state the obvious, we all ride in different conditions and prefer different things to you. I know we all have bad days, but no need to take it out on a general SB convo dude.

Every kite has its 'ups and downs' to it. Most of these are known... If there is more to add, there is the review section...

Think yall need a good dose of salt water...

Goodwinds I really really hope!


Hi Elizabeth,

I was just playing aroung with Goon Dog. There was no offence intended and none taken as it turns out in a later post that he was infact joking and playing around as well. I apologise if this appeared as anything maliciaous and offended you.

As far as your "great kiter" comment I have to regretfully report that I am pretty much average.... but... if love of kiting and enthusiasm count for anything then I'm right up there.

Happy kiting and sorry for the misunderstanding.

FELIX


Alan
Alan
NSW
125 posts
NSW, 125 posts
5 Feb 2007 12:18pm
Felix!..who else spends 2 hours making sure he looks perfect before hitting the briney.

Felix is correct regarding dissimilar streching of best lines it has caused me a bit of frustration although I like the Best 07 Bar and set up. Love the kite.

Oh and F, can you tell Mr Wandaful he left his dog lead at KK Saturday arvo as I don't have his number.
Mrwandaful
Mrwandaful
NSW
186 posts
NSW, 186 posts
5 Feb 2007 1:10pm
Love the 07 Waroo, but my swivel doesn't work either. I wish my chicken loop lines were covered in plastic like old Best or Current Cabrinha lines are. Thanks Alan, I left that dog leash there to restrain Felix
congo abrezio
congo abrezio
NT
285 posts
NT, 285 posts
5 Feb 2007 11:54am
i was riding a peter lynn arc 840 yesterday. fly a dream. water relaunches like no other. unhooked tricks have never felt better,
toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
5 Feb 2007 12:37pm
I agree the 07s are great kites. But coming over from slingshot i really miss the One Pump. F---en around with all those valves when all you want to do is get out there can be a pain in the butt.
NSW, 4382 posts
5 Feb 2007 2:28pm
Any issue with any Best kite, go back to your authorised dealer, they can sort it out quickest.

If there are issues with lines bring them back. We have had a couple of linesets, stretch unevenly, they were replaced without hesitation immediately.

However, I think that resin coated clear/white or coloured lines will have the tendency to stretvh unevenly, particularly in hot weather when the resin is soft.

Re-stretching, or pre stretching will almost always even up these line sets.

I would like to see fully kookproofed kite pigtails and line ends back on Best kites.

Some sort of back up on the trim strap is needed too, but not hard to rig your own setup.

The swivel on my bar works, but it tends to unspin when not under high load. However the few twists that can accumulate in the front lines make no difference to the way the kite flies of the primary safety of the kite.

I like the functionality and feel of the 07 Waroo bar, and I think the 11M especially in pink and black is a very nice kite!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
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