Good question.....
Enjoy the good ole' days while they last....
As far as an opinion on the thread..... Err, this one's a doozy.

As I said............
enjoy the good ole' days...... This will set a precident all over Australia. And again thanks to all those safety conscious, proactive wankers who over the past years saw this coming, and knew the lasaiz-fare attitude was doomed to failure......

What is WAKSA's/AKSA's public comment/opinion on the proposal, as isn't this exactly the type of scenario that is in the charter?



JOONDALUP Council has voted to release for six weeks of public comment a draft beach management plan outlining restrictions on kite surfing and changes to animal exercise areas.
The plan was developed in response to complaints and petitions about competing recreational activities, car park access, vandalism, antisocial behaviour and the condition of coastal paths.

It aims to provide an “umbrella” management framework to help the City manage and develop its coast from Burns Beach to Marmion.

“In recognising that many organisations, groups and individuals may be affected by the City’s position on beach management, development of the draft plan involved some preliminary consultation with a number of stakeholders and beach user groups,” Mayor Troy Pickard said.

The plan identified three focus areas – infrastructure, management and development – with 32 issue statements suggesting actions to resolve or manage concerns.

Under the plan, restrictions would apply to “highly conflicting” water and beach-based activities, such as animal exercising, kite surfing, water skiing and freestyle jet skiing, with designated areas and exclusion zones set out.

Kite surfing restrictions would apply at beach launching and landing areas at North Mullaloo south of West View Boulevard to Korella Street and at Pinnaroo Point north and south of the John Wilkie Tarn Access Path.

Kite surfing exclusion zones would extend north, south and west of Mullaloo and Sorrento surf lifesaving clubs, while animal exercising would be limited to an area north of the Ern Halliday camp site underpass.

Water skiing would be restricted to an area designated by the Department of Transport and freestyle jet skiing would be banned within 200m of the coast and in the water skiing area.

Cr Trona Young commended the City for its “forward thinking” on the plan, which is the first to be considered by a local government council.

Mayor Pickard said the consultation period was a wonderful opportunity to engage the community on a range of issues that would provoke a range of responses.

“The draft plan identifies factors likely to have an impact on the public’s enjoyment of beaches, the preservation of the coastal environment and lastly, on the maintenance of paths, parks and community buildings, which are the City’s responsibility,” he said.

“Kite surfing and the animal exercise areas are two issues that have generated the most community interest in the past and the City is expecting significant community feedback on the options proposed in the draft plan to deal with these matters.”

WAKSA and Mullaloo Kiters User Group have been proactive into feeding into this process. The council from all of our input have come up with this proposal which is not aligned with our suggestions, however it does still allow kitesurfing on Mullaloo Beach. What you are probably not aware of is that there is a huge number of local residents who want kitesurfing banned completely and are actively campaigning people to feed into the consultation process. You may argue that the scenario laid out in the beach management plan is far from ideal, but in relation to a complete ban (which is a very real possibility) this is a reasonable compromise in my personal opinion, especially given Mullaloo is the 3rd busiest beaches in Perth.

Lots more information about how you can help the cause to maintain kiting on Mullaloo will be available shortly.

Regards
Dave
Mullaloo Kiters User Group

No I have not contacted WAKSA and no I did not offer any help.

I am simply deeply troubled that our suposedly representative body has not bothered to come out with any plan of action or at least a simple reply.

Maybe a blank e-mail to all members advising of the findings or maybe some sort of a draft proposal to the council??????

Nothing, blank, nada, niente ,zilch

We are talking about our right to enjoy our favorite sport here, wake up.

I live and kite in Scarb and only occasionaly kites at Mullaloo or Pinnaroo so I am not even a local, I can see however how this decision will have long bearing implications for the future of kiting in any metropole and I am deeply concerned that those bans will prevent my children from sharing my passion.

If you do require some assistance however, I am definately willing to participate to the best of my capabilities.

But you must be right, I am just an agro being with deep rooted personal issues.
Sorry for expressing my concern and I hope that you enjoy living in your cave until you get kicked out for CO2 damage to the rock structures.

Peace brother

take it easy guys and get with the program - this is serious. we need to work together and support each other - sebol and big wave dave; seems you guys are totally on the same page. There must be some kiters out there who have some experience in local govt law and/or planning processes. we should all be offering to help and put together a coherent rersponse from kiters - the NSW body was really helpful when the issue of mandatory flotation devices was raised and if you guys work together I'm sure you can come up with a similar response. Contact the councillors directly - meet with them - get a handle on whats pressing their buttons and formulate a strategy that appeases them and protects our rights etc etc - will be watching closely

Seebreeze is by far the largest medium related to kite surfing and if there is any way to raise your voice and express an opinion, I don't see why due to political correctness, I should purposefully avoid the one place where I may be heard???

No agro, mate, I appreciate your concern and as stated above, I was very impressed with the pdf I read in regards to flotation devices in NSW.

I am however concerned at the lack of reaction in WA.
Seing the amount of kites doing the downwinder from floreat to Scarb on the week end, we could surely get our voice heard if we pulled together.
And the one organisation that has the means to coordinate this action is WAKSA so I will await full of optimism.

Sweet, I hope all the Scarbs kiters will tag along.

How about we work on prevening a ban first.

If it does pass though, how about rigging 100 kites and just leaving them on the beach on a saturday in protest. Or better yet, 100 kites on the water.

sebol said...

So we get classified as Highly dangerous activity by the Joondalup council who decides to enforce a ban and park us in restricted areas and not a word from WAKSA?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Am i missing something?????
Did you guys represent us, are you challenging the decision???
This will be closely scrutinised by other councils and surely WAKSA is doing something???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Even if you do, the lack of communication to your members is very poor.
I respect that you are volonteers but if you decide to represent all the kiters then you should do just that.
Hope to hear some sort of comment soon or you can kiss good bye to my future membership.

Good questions, WAKSA has been working on the Mullaloo issue for a while. Unfortunately the opposing group has a lot of destructive energy, this will take all the help kiters can offer to this cause, but it will have to be a concerted effort, so save your breath, you may need it.

....hey WAKSA comitee, would you tell us what exactly we (plain kiters) can do to prevent **** hit the fan....it sounds serious, and we knew for years it was going to come....but now it is the time for actions....
...avalanche starts from a snow ball...I see it getting into motion...
...let us know what we can do.....and I'll do it...
BTW it is not a local issue of Mullaloo.....I've never kited there....it is the snow ball...

OK guys, I know a lot of you are frustrated, but be patient. This is probably the biggest thing WAKSA has had to tackle since the Cottesloe restrictions were put in place, if not bigger, and it's pretty much entirely new crew since then.

At the moment WAKSA and MUGS are having in-depth discussions about an approach to take. By this time tomorrow there should be a clear plan laid down, at which time a public statement can be made. The reason nothing has been said yet, and I am saying this under my personal login, is that WAKSA is taking this very seriously, and are making absolutely sure all the ducks are in a row before making public statements.

Remember, this is a public forum, and people opposed to kitesurfing are reading it as well as us.

Once WAKSA and MUGS have a position and a plan laid out you can expect a meeting for the wider kitesurfing community to be announced, for probably later this week. This can only happen once the entire committee has agreed on what to do, as this is, as you know, a very serious issue.

Please be patient, your questions will all be answered soon.

I disagree. You have a local problem with one local authority.

This part of Seabreeze is a national forum. The WAKSA forum area is designed for WA issues. Kitesurfing is a high visibility sport in WA maybe. Here on the east coast we do not have the same crowding issues nor the same friction between beach users. (except in a couple of high vis areas like St Kilda and Byron)



If we keep making loud noises about restrictions and bans on the national forum, then non-kiting readers of this forum (councils, govt regulators etc) will think the issue is bigger than it is.

Sometimes we think we are far more noticed than what we really are....

Better to keep under the radar than make one local council's issues into a national one.

Just one humble opinion.

Even if this isn't your home beach this is a problem as it sets a nasty precedent.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

Mullaloo Kiters User Group and WAKSA had a meeting last night. There is no additional news which we can print on a public forum, however rest assured we are working on our approach to the beach management plan.

Please bear with us, but know that lots of people are working on this issue - just because we are not able to post full details on the forums, does not mean the issue is being forgotten. I can assure you it is not!

WAKSA members will get additional information in the next few days.

Dave
Mullaloo Kiters User Group

Kitehard said...

lemming said...

Mullaloo Kiters User Group and WAKSA had a meeting last night.

Dave
Mullaloo Kiters User Group

Hey Dave, would it be possible to give me a heads up on the next meeting?, I also have an interest in the outcome of all of this and would like to contribute in any way I can.

Cheers,

KH

Hi Darren,

I did send you an email to what I thought was your address, giving details of the meeting etc. I don't think it bounced but perhaps I did have the address incorrect. If you PM me your mobile (and email), I am happy to call and give you a quick synopsis of the meeting yesterday.

I will ensure you are kept in the loop for any future meetings

Cheers
Dave