What Quiver gap between kite sizes?

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Jimb0Jones
Jimb0Jones
5 posts
5 posts
24 Mar 2012 11:05am
So I'm new, just have a 9m Airush Lithium over this past summer, but am absolutely loving it. Of course now I find I need more wind range.

What gap do you have between your kite sizes?

I'm thinking of a 12m kite next, but should I go 13m? Eyeing off a Cabrinha 12m...

I ride at Shoalwater and Woodies, just starting to jump (and crash!).

Cheers!
BurkeyBoy
BurkeyBoy
QLD
549 posts
QLD, 549 posts
24 Mar 2012 1:53pm
4 m is a big gap. I have 8, 10, 12. It depends on the kite of course. I like to stick to the same brand and style when I'm happy with them as the size change doesn't feel like a style change as well.
DutchRooster
DutchRooster
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
24 Mar 2012 9:28pm
Depends on your weight, and your board.

But yeah if I was you and had a 9m my next kite would be a bigger one (more days with too little wind than too much).

D3
D3
WA
1577 posts
D3 D3
WA, 1577 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:33pm
At 100kg I have an 8m, 10m and a 15m.

The 15m gets me going on 136cm board in about 13knots and I can use til about 20knots

The 10m is getting most of the use with a range of 18knots to 35knots max

The 8m was a freebie and I really need it to be over 30knots to even consider taking it out of its bag.

They are all slighty different styles, 15m designed for light wind cruising/racing but the other two are more for freestyle
Danmurphys
Danmurphys
WA
231 posts
WA, 231 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:49pm
I'm 82kg, and in summer 7m, 9m and 12m torches do me fine in almost anything. So yeah assuming your around 70-90kg i'd be getting a 12m if i were you. I believe lithiums are more of a wave kite and not the best suited to jumping so if you mainly ride around woody's and are looking forward to mastering new school tricks i'd be aiming at a quiver of freestyle kites if i were you (C4, RPM, Park, Torch, Fuel). Plenty to test fly and choose from. Oh yeah, to answer your question.. I'd say a 2-3m gap.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:52pm
Jumbo I've a zephyr covers you from 9 to 20+ knts but id stick with the same brand ,makes sense similar feel interchanging brands doesn't make for progressive kiting in my view
mywisdom
mywisdom
WA
258 posts
WA, 258 posts
24 Mar 2012 6:52pm
7,10,14 C-KITES
7,9,12 DELTAS

cant go wrong!
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
25 Mar 2012 6:51pm
i have 15,13,10,6.... need an 8!.

GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
25 Mar 2012 9:20pm
86kg

9 (2010), 11 (2011), 14 (2009) switchblades,

Thinking about upgrading the 14 next year as it is a pig and I hate flying it as much as I hate light winds (although I loved it when I was learning).

Not sure if I hate light winds coz of the kite, or just coz light winds suck.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
26 Mar 2012 10:21am
First off, your choice of kite:

If you're riding a lithium and like it, why switch to a Cabrinha? I'm not saying this because I like the Airrush or dislike the Cabrinha, I ride North, I'm saying this because from a practicality perspective it makes no sense to have two separate brands.

If you ride one brand, you have the interchangeability of bars if one bar breaks. Sure your one bar may be smaller or larger, but it still works with the kite. If you get a cab and a bar breaks, thats the end of your session. The reason for this is that some kites use unique safety methods. The Cabrinha bar is not guaranteed to work on a Airush and visa versa.

Next to consider is other similarities like safeties, repair etc. If you have two kites, you need to take two sets of repair kits (yes, the one pump systems work in different ways so the repair requirements and accessories will be different), not to mention different feels to the kites, and different ways of engaging and disengaging your safety if you get in trouble.

Next, lets look at sizes:

You generally have two choices, a 3m or 4m gap. 2m gaps are great but very few people can afford them. People will tell you a 4m gap is possible but it will often leave you in no man's land. I.e. the wind is sitting between both kites and you're not sure which one to take. The 3m gap seems to leave a bigger comfortable overlap so there are less issues with which kite to take.
Danmurphys
Danmurphys
WA
231 posts
WA, 231 posts
26 Mar 2012 9:11am
Dude this sport is so addictive. You'll soon find that no matter how many kites you have you always want another. It's kinda like girlfriends. Your first two or so kites will be good for learning the basics but it probs won't be until your third or fourth kite that you'll actually notice and appreciate the difference between models, and then know exactly what type you need/want.
Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
QLD, 1499 posts
26 Mar 2012 1:37pm
LiveToFly said...

Dude this sport is so addictive. You'll soon find that no matter how many kites you have you always want another. It's kinda like girlfriends. Your first two or so kites will be good for learning the basics but it probs won't be until your third or fourth kite that you'll actually notice and appreciate the difference between models, and then know exactly what type you need/want.


LiveToFly, yes, you are right! Now I just need to find a pair of suitable twins and my quiver will be complete, almost.
the truth
the truth
QLD
189 posts
QLD, 189 posts
26 Mar 2012 5:49pm
Generally find the best overlap between sizes is 1.333 x sqm going up or 0.75 x sqm going down and same brand means no dialling in, just plug n play.
Sizing works better this way as the bigger you go the bigger the gap needed and the smaller you go the smaller gap needed, works for me anyway -BTW this works for any kite related activity.
au_rick
au_rick
WA
752 posts
WA, 752 posts
26 Mar 2012 4:28pm
7, 10, 14 keeps me on the water in just about any wind.
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