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Flying High
Flying High
NSW
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NSW, 217 posts
10 Jul 2012 8:12pm
I thought it would be an interesting topic and it is not intended to sledge any particular kite brand.
Most kites are pretty good these days and each year new refinements make a good/great kite even better but . . . . .

My current kites are Slingshot RPM's. I rate them pretty highly but I have one main gripe, the pulleys. They jam as soon as they get near sand and consequently wear the bridle, which can cause failure if you don't check for wear.
The pulleys make the bridle work and make the kite perform as it is advertised to. Why then put cheap, plastic pulleys on a great kite?
It detracts from an otherwise excellent product and it's an easy fix especially for a kite company like Slingshot.
I don't believe the customer should have to do a mod to make the product safer and last longer.
Please correct me if I am wrong but the RPM is now into its 4th generation, I am not sure about the new model but last years had the same or similar cheap plastic pulley as the first model.
(Yes I do clean them after each use and make sure they are working and the bridle isn't worn etc)

Maybe a Slingshot representative will read this and respond or even better put a process in place to improve the pulleys on their kites.
kitingtopher
kitingtopher
SA
313 posts
SA, 313 posts
10 Jul 2012 8:14pm
the lack of god damnnnn wind currently flowing through it

our winter duldrums suck but wind tomorrow
beefarmer
beefarmer
WA
328 posts
WA, 328 posts
10 Jul 2012 8:42pm
Good thread Flying high.

In my case with my NEW kiteboarding kites which i rate very high (especially given they're 5 years old now!) its just a few little things:

rubber bar end sleeves degrade a bit quicker than the rest of the bar components. Looks a bit tatty after a few years

little elastic bands for tying off the lines are cheap and get stretched very easily.

Emergency release is a bit hard to release - fine for me but a bit hard for some with weak hands.

otherwise they're fkn great kites, very ahead of their time. Still the best 5-line bar out there.

rod_bunny
rod_bunny
WA
1089 posts
WA, 1089 posts
10 Jul 2012 9:50pm
What do you dislike about your kite?

Its still in its bag 18 months after I broke my foot with it
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
11 Jul 2012 12:11am
Riding 2012 North Rebels

Thing I don't like is they don't seem to have the range of other kites being reviewed here. Other people can take their 7m kites out in 45 knots, even though they only weigh 60kgs and handle it without a problem. Their kites also turn faster than mine. Their 12m kites turn like 9's and mine turns like a 12m. My kite also seems to be grunty but doesn't quite have the grunt of a 16m kite as others claim, another problem with my kite I guess.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
10 Jul 2012 11:13pm
Saffer said...

Riding 2012 North Rebels

Thing I don't like is they don't seem to have the range of other kites being reviewed here. Other people can take their 7m kites out in 45 knots, even though they only weigh 60kgs and handle it without a problem. Their kites also turn faster than mine. Their 12m kites turn like 9's and mine turns like a 12m. My kite also seems to be grunty but doesn't quite have the grunt of a 16m kite as others claim, another problem with my kite I guess.


forget about the lack of performance I would be more concerned about the colours
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
11 Jul 2012 5:35am
ok i have
15m flysurfer speed 3
13m 2010 edge
10m c4 2011
6m reo

i want my 15 and 13 to turn like my 10.
i want my 10 and my 6 to have the glide of my 15.
i want them all to relaunch as fast as my 6m
I want them all to pump up like my 15... no pumping.!
but i wnt my 15 to hold its shape like an lei.
but i want my leis to deform around objects like my foils

hmmm
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
11 Jul 2012 7:56am
^^^ nailed it
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
11 Jul 2012 9:34am
TurtleHunter said...

Saffer said...

Riding 2012 North Rebels

Thing I don't like is they don't seem to have the range of other kites being reviewed here. Other people can take their 7m kites out in 45 knots, even though they only weigh 60kgs and handle it without a problem. Their kites also turn faster than mine. Their 12m kites turn like 9's and mine turns like a 12m. My kite also seems to be grunty but doesn't quite have the grunt of a 16m kite as others claim, another problem with my kite I guess.


forget about the lack of performance I would be more concerned about the colours


The colours grow on you like a bad rash.
the truth
the truth
QLD
189 posts
QLD, 189 posts
11 Jul 2012 9:40am
good thing they're not contagious- not growing on me
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
11 Jul 2012 8:25am
Rebel 11m, pivot turn, stall, sit too deep, pull you off wave, yet soooo smooth and boost so well and loops like a Mac truck.

9m Vegas, boosts not great compared to rebel, heavyish bar pressure, but is awesome in surf and eating gusts and loops like a demon. Hard to self land unless activating the fifth in high winds.

Varial X, not sure, will let you know soon.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
11 Jul 2012 11:12am
the truth said...

good thing they're not contagious- not growing on me



Its called personal choice. Thats why some people like Holdens, BMW, Audi's Mercs, etc. If everyone liked the same thing there wouldn't be much of a variety.

eppo said...

Rebel 11m, pivot turn, stall, sit too deep, pull you off wave, yet soooo smooth and boost so well and loops like a Mac truck.

9m Vegas, boosts not great compared to rebel, heavyish bar pressure, but is awesome in surf and eating gusts and loops like a demon. Hard to self land unless activating the fifth in high winds.

Varial X, not sure, will let you know soon.


I suspect your issues with the Vegas are more to do with technique or skill than the boosting ability of the kite. Some of the biggest boosters I've seen have been on the Vegas. That said, I couldn't jump it very well either. I think the correct term would be to say the Rebel is easy to boost rather than the vegas not boosting as well.
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
11 Jul 2012 9:49am
I wish my kite could have a little slapping arm dangling from the leading edge to belt SUP riders and boogeyboarders in the face. (Obviously without effecting the performance)

The other thing I would like is instead of the brand name, all kites should say BOOOOOST on them.
Intheozone
Intheozone
WA
247 posts
WA, 247 posts
11 Jul 2012 10:05am
On the goold old Rebels. I hate the dump valve at the wing tip not in the centre. That is all
ste
ste
WA
524 posts
ste ste
WA, 524 posts
11 Jul 2012 10:46am
I hate that my ozones have such a **** rider
on the end of them.
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
11 Jul 2012 10:47am
RRD religion,love it, my best kite ever but sometimes lacking a bit of grunt.
Normal inflating rubber valve that gets stretched everytime you inflate (much prefer the Cab system).
That's all.
wal269
wal269
WA
718 posts
WA, 718 posts
11 Jul 2012 10:55am
Pumping the bastard up.
Skid
Skid
QLD
1499 posts
QLD, 1499 posts
11 Jul 2012 1:39pm
ste said...

I hate that my ozones have such a **** rider
on the end of them.


I have the same problem with my ozones...
NSW, 74 posts
11 Jul 2012 2:25pm
Greetings Flying High your comments are noted and have been communicated to SS HQ

Cheers Boardcrazy team (Slingshot Australia)

Flying High said...

I thought it would be an interesting topic and it is not intended to sledge any particular kite brand.
Most kites are pretty good these days and each year new refinements make a good/great kite even better but . . . . .

My current kites are Slingshot RPM's. I rate them pretty highly but I have one main gripe, the pulleys. They jam as soon as they get near sand and consequently wear the bridle, which can cause failure if you don't check for wear.
The pulleys make the bridle work and make the kite perform as it is advertised to. Why then put cheap, plastic pulleys on a great kite?
It detracts from an otherwise excellent product and it's an easy fix especially for a kite company like Slingshot.
I don't believe the customer should have to do a mod to make the product safer and last longer.
Please correct me if I am wrong but the RPM is now into its 4th generation, I am not sure about the new model but last years had the same or similar cheap plastic pulley as the first model.
(Yes I do clean them after each use and make sure they are working and the bridle isn't worn etc)

Maybe a Slingshot representative will read this and respond or even better put a process in place to improve the pulleys on their kites.



Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
11 Jul 2012 3:17pm
there is no stubby cooler in the kite bag...
Luther
Luther
84 posts
84 posts
11 Jul 2012 1:34pm
ste said...

I hate that my ozones have such a **** rider
on the end of them.


No argument there gayboy !!!!!
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5126 posts
VIC, 5126 posts
11 Jul 2012 3:50pm
I don't like the way there is only one local dealer for my kites so I cannot shop around for a better deal on those kites and I cannot buy those kites from some dealers that I rate pretty highly.

I don't like that those kites have some specific features that I really, really like and those features are not available on other kites so I am less inclined to look at other kites when it's time to get new kites.

I also don't like that there are other kites that I think fly really, really well, but they have dodgey bars and line systems and inflation systems.
Flying High
Flying High
NSW
217 posts
NSW, 217 posts
11 Jul 2012 4:44pm
BoardCrazy said...

Greetings Flying High your comments are noted and have been communicated to SS HQ

Cheers Boardcrazy team (Slingshot Australia)

Flying High said...

I thought it would be an interesting topic and it is not intended to sledge any particular kite brand.
Most kites are pretty good these days and each year new refinements make a good/great kite even better but . . . . .

My current kites are Slingshot RPM's. I rate them pretty highly but I have one main gripe, the pulleys. They jam as soon as they get near sand and consequently wear the bridle, which can cause failure if you don't check for wear.
The pulleys make the bridle work and make the kite perform as it is advertised to. Why then put cheap, plastic pulleys on a great kite?
It detracts from an otherwise excellent product and it's an easy fix especially for a kite company like Slingshot.
I don't believe the customer should have to do a mod to make the product safer and last longer.
Please correct me if I am wrong but the RPM is now into its 4th generation, I am not sure about the new model but last years had the same or similar cheap plastic pulley as the first model.
(Yes I do clean them after each use and make sure they are working and the bridle isn't worn etc)

Maybe a Slingshot representative will read this and respond or even better put a process in place to improve the pulleys on their kites.






Thanks for that



Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
11 Jul 2012 7:04pm
ste said...

I hate that my ozones have such a **** rider
on the end of them.


Might want to add that Cabrinha riders are attracted to trees and Slingshot Fuel's attracted to dickheads.
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
11 Jul 2012 7:20pm
Saffer said...

the truth said...

good thing they're not contagious- not growing on me



Its called personal choice. Thats why some people like Holdens, BMW, Audi's Mercs, etc. If everyone liked the same thing there wouldn't be much of a variety.

eppo said...

Rebel 11m, pivot turn, stall, sit too deep, pull you off wave, yet soooo smooth and boost so well and loops like a Mac truck.

9m Vegas, boosts not great compared to rebel, heavyish bar pressure, but is awesome in surf and eating gusts and loops like a demon. Hard to self land unless activating the fifth in high winds.

Varial X, not sure, will let you know soon.


I suspect your issues with the Vegas are more to do with technique or skill than the boosting ability of the kite. Some of the biggest boosters I've seen have been on the Vegas. That said, I couldn't jump it very well either. I think the correct term would be to say the Rebel is easy to boost rather than the vegas not boosting as well.






Yeh staffer what you said is more accurate for sure b
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
11 Jul 2012 8:45pm
Gorgo said...

I don't like the way there is only one local dealer for my kites so I cannot shop around for a better deal on those kites and I cannot buy those kites from some dealers that I rate pretty highly.

I don't like that those kites have some specific features that I really, really like and those features are not available on other kites so I am less inclined to look at other kites when it's time to get new kites.

I also don't like that there are other kites that I think fly really, really well, but they have dodgey bars and line systems and inflation systems.


Curious to what kites you are referring to?

Beefarmer said...



In my case with my NEW kiteboarding kites which i rate very high (especially given they're 5 years old now!) its just a few little things:

rubber bar end sleeves degrade a bit quicker than the rest of the bar components. Looks a bit tatty after a few years

little elastic bands for tying off the lines are cheap and get stretched very easily.

Emergency release is a bit hard to release - fine for me but a bit hard for some with weak hands.

otherwise they're fkn great kites, very ahead of their time. Still the best 5-line bar out there.


Totally agree - light years ahead, Nate actually hand delivered a NEW set of rubber end covers after my one's tore (he actually came down to meet his chicky babe).

I am actually considering buying the 5m but could be a bit small to pull my 90kgs on a surfboard in Perths 25knot days, I have the 7m that covers me from 20 to the upper 20's.

The key with the quick release is to clean it out every session and I cleaned up the red plastic part a bit so that the pin would not push against it.

The thing I dislike about my kite is that there is one always better than your one.

Come on Summer!
Rich
stjepan
stjepan
NSW
124 posts
NSW, 124 posts
12 Jul 2012 4:22am
Plummet said...

ok i have
15m flysurfer speed 3
13m 2010 edge
10m c4 2011
6m reo

i want my 15 and 13 to turn like my 10.
i want my 10 and my 6 to have the glide of my 15.
i want them all to relaunch as fast as my 6m
I want them all to pump up like my 15... no pumping.!
but i wnt my 15 to hold its shape like an lei.
but i want my leis to deform around objects like my foils

hmmm

this
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
12 Jul 2012 4:08am
stjepan said...

Plummet said...

ok i have
15m flysurfer speed 3
13m 2010 edge
10m c4 2011
6m reo

i want my 15 and 13 to turn like my 10.
i want my 10 and my 6 to have the glide of my 15.
i want them all to relaunch as fast as my 6m
I want them all to pump up like my 15... no pumping.!
but i wnt my 15 to hold its shape like an lei.
but i want my leis to deform around objects like my foils

hmmm

this



I missed a couple. i want them all to crank upwind like my 13m and drift downwind like my 6m.

If we can manage all that in one kite that never wears out i'll be happy.

wldistel
wldistel
QLD
91 posts
QLD, 91 posts
12 Jul 2012 7:14am
I hate that my kite is better than me!!
Juddy
Juddy
WA
1103 posts
WA, 1103 posts
12 Jul 2012 10:06am
I hate that my kites haven't seen daylight if fkg months.....reflecting the fact that there's been stuff all wind for so long....biatch session over.
prea
prea
QLD
184 posts
QLD, 184 posts
12 Jul 2012 12:29pm
What do you dislike about your kite?


that they wear out
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