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NumNutz
NumNutz
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24 Mar 2009 7:27pm
have some 2 inch high 3 inch long fins.. i think they are too small.. should i go bigger.. whats a good size
hydra
hydra
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24 Mar 2009 8:01pm
thats a good size. you might just need a different brand
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
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24 Mar 2009 6:52pm
They sound like a pretty good size.
Persevere. You will probably find they are OK once your skills improve.
But try checking someone elses board. You may have put them on backwards
jumpindave
jumpindave
WA
124 posts
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24 Mar 2009 7:01pm
My Son always tells me im a Kook for using those "surfboard fins" in my twin tip. But i like the feel, locked in all the way baby!
Charl dv
Charl dv
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24 Mar 2009 7:42pm
i think you should consider the 2inch high but 8 inch long fins or perhaps some 3.5inch high 4 inch long fins... i hear if you put them on in reverse u get even more grip.
ewan kite
ewan kite
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24 Mar 2009 10:21pm
Charl dv said...

i hear if you put them on in reverse u get even more grip.


i know u may b bein sarcastic but i rode with my naish fins on backwards for about 1- 1 1/2 before i noticed it was different to all other fins it definatly gave a little more pop but was much to grippy on the landing so if you landed the smallest bit off (especially landing blind) you would trip over your edge far too easily.

maybe try it to see how you like it


ewan

puppetonastring
puppetonastring
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24 Mar 2009 8:45pm
Charl dv said...
i hear if you put them on in reverse u get even more grip.


yer maybe ? but youd have to make sure they are on the right side or they would only grip on your off side.
chronic
chronic
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24 Mar 2009 10:53pm
test this for a start
take them out and have a go with no fins
put them back in have a go with them and check out the difference
the faster you go the lower profile and longer fin you want.
NumNutz
NumNutz
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25 Mar 2009 10:26pm
thanks guys i'll try that
Charl dv
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25 Mar 2009 9:44pm
good luck and let me know how you go okay
NumNutz
NumNutz
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31 Mar 2009 5:59pm
thanks guys i tried out the bigger fins and they are great. had so much more up wind ability.
my jumps have gotten bigger too..thanks everyone
foe
foe
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foe foe
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1 Apr 2009 9:06am
One of my fins fell off recently and Ive found when I travel in the direction that uses the finless section of the board I get more upwind ability. It felt a little slippery at first but once you find the edge of the board its feels the same as having fins. Im considering taking off all the fins or maybe just the heel side, as my toeside ability is really lame.

Anyone else ride finless that can comment?
KiteNutt
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1 Apr 2009 9:19am
A good mate of mine rides a 118 cardboard with only 2 fins on toeside.
He's been riding it for years and can go upwind as good as anyone.

Certainly doesn't hold back his unhooked riding style.

I've ridden his board and it obviously feels weird at the start but
I'm sure I could get used to it. Its slippery fun.
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
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1 Apr 2009 10:41am
would you put fins on a snow board? NO !! why? because your using the edge of the board as a fin. Fins do not help, if your board has a concave it will feel just like you have fins when riding but a lot less resistance. So you go faster better upwind better performance from your kite and bigger more controled jumps.

But you do have to change your stance a little when riding.

no fins allow you to pick up speed on the skim so you can develop power and get going. It's very similar to a plane taking of on a run way. get going in very light winds

fins just dig into the sand and throw you onto your face!!!

Still don't undersand why board are made with fins still??? one day they will realize?

au_rick
au_rick
WA
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1 Apr 2009 11:49am
Alex sanz said...

would you put fins on a snow board? NO !! why? because your using the edge of the board as a fin. Fins do not help, if your board has a concave it will feel just like you have fins when riding but a lot less resistance. So you go faster better upwind better performance from your kite and bigger more controled jumps.

But you do have to change your stance a little when riding.

no fins allow you to pick up speed on the skim so you can develop power and get going. It's very similar to a plane taking of on a run way. get going in very light winds

fins just dig into the sand and throw you onto your face!!!

Still don't undersand why board are made with fins still??? one day they will realize?




maybe it's 'cos some of us ride in water that's more that 2 inches deep ??

sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
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1 Apr 2009 12:12pm
He brings a good point, wakeboards have had channels for years. slight channels on the tips of your board with concave/concaves in the middle make for a much better board than one with just fins.
sandman
sandman
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1 Apr 2009 12:14pm
au_rick said...

Alex sanz said...

would you put fins on a snow board? NO !! why? because your using the edge of the board as a fin. Fins do not help, if your board has a concave it will feel just like you have fins when riding but a lot less resistance. So you go faster better upwind better performance from your kite and bigger more controled jumps.

But you do have to change your stance a little when riding.

no fins allow you to pick up speed on the skim so you can develop power and get going. It's very similar to a plane taking of on a run way. get going in very light winds

fins just dig into the sand and throw you onto your face!!!

Still don't undersand why board are made with fins still??? one day they will realize?




maybe it's 'cos some of us ride in water that's more that 2 inches deep ??




...with waves and chop and bumps and lumps and swell and dips...
chronic
chronic
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318 posts
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1 Apr 2009 11:23pm
Alex sanz said...

would you put fins on a snow board? NO !! why? because your using the edge of the board as a fin. Fins do not help, if your board has a concave it will feel just like you have fins when riding but a lot less resistance. So you go faster better upwind better performance from your kite and bigger more controled jumps.

But you do have to change your stance a little when riding.

no fins allow you to pick up speed on the skim so you can develop power and get going. It's very similar to a plane taking of on a run way. get going in very light winds

fins just dig into the sand and throw you onto your face!!!

Still don't undersand why board are made with fins still??? one day they will realize?




interesting you would make this comparison ...but you're right you can't actaually snowboard with fins at all whatsoever. snowboarding involves rapid transition turning edge to edge with a momentary moment when the boards p-tex is flat on the snow. early wintersticks had fins and thay were a real failure put a lot of people off snowboarding in the early days

however you can on the the water and because we can , we do. i've never had my fins dig into the sand yet. where are you kiting at anyway isn't the water very deep or something.
chronic
chronic
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1 Apr 2009 11:26pm
sir ROWDY said...

He brings a good point, wakeboards have had channels for years. slight channels on the tips of your board with concave/concaves in the middle make for a much better board than one with just fins.


for a surfboard get a 1980's Col Smith channel bottom 6 or 8 channels - like each one is 2 inches deep. just add water and go
sir ROWDY
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1 Apr 2009 8:30pm
I have an old bob minty thruster at home and its got big channels through the tail. It rips. The reason they dont do channels in surfboards anymore is its to much hassle for the glasser
I was kinda talking about twin tips, but i guess it still plays a part in surfboards to.
C Kiter
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1 Apr 2009 10:37pm
sir ROWDY said...

I have an old bob minty thruster at home and its got big channels through the tail. It rips. The reason they dont do channels in surfboards anymore is its to much hassle for the glasser
I was kinda talking about twin tips, but i guess it still plays a part in surfboards to.


nah oii i reckon yoo shud try some ultraloops finless, ive been seeing lewis back practising (in hiding ofcourse and gonna make his re-debut at the nats) and hes doing theez ultraloops finless n yeah ay n yer its just off tap bro like hes hitting theez pelicans n **** n yea and like its just off tap bro!
chronic
chronic
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1 Apr 2009 11:40pm
^^^^^^^
yeah we want channel bottoms - hear us stonker and cardboard !!
some concaves will be cool as well
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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1 Apr 2009 8:47pm
Oh no way!!! so i go tell lewis who i thought was me mate an stuf bout ULTRAloops an hes been out there stealin my trick already ready to win tha nats an he doesnt even have fins or nothin i guess i will have to pull out the ULTRAfisher-paykelmobiusSTEEZEloop to beat him now i was gunna save that for next year
C Kiter
C Kiter
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1 Apr 2009 10:52pm
sir ROWDY said...

Oh no way!!! so i go tell lewis who i thought was me mate an stuf bout ULTRAloops an hes been out there stealin my trick already ready to win tha nats an he doesnt even have fins or nothin i guess i will have to pull out the ULTRAfisher-paykelmobiusSTEEZEloop to beat him now i was gunna save that for next year


and ur also gonna have to think about another trick for next year coz hes already practising his bordoffs in bindgings and finless aswell and i reckon that'll steal the show so ur gonna have to think of some new tricks mate.
C Kiter
C Kiter
QLD
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1 Apr 2009 11:13pm
oha and then the year after that his little brother aden will be winnig n **** coz yer hes like fully wearing these new bindings..you sould see em like imagine bindings with a long sock coming out and like joining to and impact vest/ seat harness n yer heez just steeezing and like fully popping wakestyle like propper gayleys fully hooked in like popping 16cm off a massive 9ft kicker while his kite is enjoying lunch and hes like fully underpowered and its just oh its the future bro like hes doesnt even ride a twintip oh no he doesnt hes on the buzz board bro like fully sick and its just about 72cms long but this buzz board is a skateboard bro so its not a twintip but its is a twintip coz hes got 2 fins on his heelside edge but its not his heelside edge coz hes turned the board around so his stance is like fully ducked stanced inward so now his fins are actually on the toeside edge and its helps with his hooked in fully underpowered body dragging aswell like its fully does u know and hes like only 16 cms under the water now..hes at the nats aswell and hes gonna be ripping on his fully ripped up fuel coz he went fishing for birds and just happened to get snagged.
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
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2 Apr 2009 1:35am
Has anyone seen the fins that go on the wake boards? they bolt them on top of the board and the fin section sticks out not down. So as you edge the board the fin is place at the optimal possy and you can still ride in shallow water.

why none nobody in kitesurfing has looked into that??

I made a similar fiberglass fin for my board and it worked untill the pressure of a tight turn broke it.

come on guy lets experiment don't let the big companies tell us what we should be using, we have minds of or own and a sence of adventure???
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
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2 Apr 2009 12:10am
Alex sanz said...

Has anyone seen the fins that go on the wake boards? they bolt them on top of the board and the fin section sticks out not down. So as you edge the board the fin is place at the optimal possy and you can still ride in shallow water.

why none nobody in kitesurfing has looked into that??

I made a similar fiberglass fin for my board and it worked untill the pressure of a tight turn broke it.

come on guy lets experiment don't let the big companies tell us what we should be using, we have minds of or own and a sence of adventure???



what?
KiteNutt
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QLD
280 posts
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2 Apr 2009 8:57am
G'day Alex,

I'm keen to know more but I'm a bit concearned about having a fin that could potentially jab me if my board were to come off. Wakers use bindings so they rarely get themselves into a situation were the board edges can smack their shins etc.

Do you have any pics?

Cheers, Chris
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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2 Apr 2009 6:31pm
its on some obrien wakeboards and they are metal. i think the player or natural has it.
Alex sanz
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3 Apr 2009 11:39am
KiteNutt said...

G'day Alex,

I'm keen to know more but I'm a bit concearned about having a fin that could potentially jab me if my board were to come off. Wakers use bindings so they rarely get themselves into a situation were the board edges can smack their shins etc.

Do you have any pics?

Cheers, Chris


Hi chris
I have a pic of a friend of mine that got cut by a kiturfing board by the fin , he almost lost his leg over it!!!

KitingCasey
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3 Apr 2009 10:49am
If by almost lost his leg...you mean slight gash to his shin
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