Looking to replace my Liquid Force Response bar and keen to hear what people think as a good upgrade. Not necessary the most expensive with all the bells & whistles you don't need. But what does the job the best.

Reason for wanting to replace the LF Response bar - the safety line is always twisting & to the point that I snapped the safety line half way through a down loop turn. This summer having been riding surf boards & foils mostly - so you are always looping the kite. Even though the kite is looped evenly both ways - still seems to twist the **** out of the safety line where is attaches to the centre line.

Bahahahahahahaha..........here we go!!!!!!

while we are at it what's your favourite kite?

If ozone did beer

+1 for core. Sensor 2 plus.

SaveTheWhales said..
The sensor 2 bars work a treat and untwist the lines without even thinking about it.. very light but a high Y...

Yes I don't like a high y, the wakestyle bar has a low tho.

I love the chaos bar but obvs thats only for the chaos. The Airush AP is also pretty sick. Coated depower all the way

The Ikon responce 3 is really good...
2 sizes, low V, great lines, awesome grip. Good price too.

Poleys would argue that it's the gay bar

+1 for the core bar, felt very smooth, and very light even on an 18m kite.

-10 for the Naish Fusion, safety line is always twisting, depower is impossible to tune unless you are standing on a beach with the kite at 12. Line colours are yellow/grey instead of blue/red which I personally hate.

My Wallan waterfoil bar was pretty good. 3 line setup, instant kite reverse relaunch line, Big chickenloop for easy unhooking and fixed angle of attack... none of this depower nonsense.

As your mainly riding directionals and foils, you may want to look at the throw of the bar and how easily it is to adjust. Directionals and especially foilboards like kites where you can really turn off the power by pushing the bar a long way out. This rules out most covered depower lines as their throw is set and usually aimed at the tt market.

balidru said..

I ride core's and I do love their bars also especially the pull to unwind system. Do any other bars have this? If not why?
Anyway I came here expecting rave reviews about the "game changers" in the industry. ...Anyone?

2018 blade V3 auto untwist - www.bladekites.com/unibar3rd/

Flysurfer has them too...

I don't know what the best bar is, but i have used a number of bars over the year.

Currently using the Zian ZA Control Bar. (I get discounts on products)

Its a very clean bar.

A few things, I like, Its very easy to use the trim line under full power.

Soft bar ends.

Plastic center hole prevents center line deterioration, saves me paying $50 for new trim lines. (Before we had the Child, I was smashing 3 trim lines a season)

Safety release is trigger happy. - Slight push away from the body and it has released. +3

Below bar swivel. I used to use a different swivel system, that was out of reach, couldn't correct my lines when riding on the fly.

Light bar.

The bar is about 40% of the cost of big name brands.... They retail for $420.

My vote goes to the ozone
simple, clean, and premium quality, no bullshidt that you don't need, they'll still be going when your game changers are done