OK, I think the McGuyver idea's the winner, tho i don't remeber him ever carrying the conduit, only rope, matches and a knife?

stuff payin that much for a piece of plastic.
On the lessons, yeah, i can set it up, fly it and crash it. As for getting it in the air, only ever held the kite once it's up, or I have relaunched off water. I've seen them do launch on the beach, but thats about it. Your probably right, i've never actually asked them to show me. Guess what the first thing I ask will be on Saturday?
I'll have to see about the Recon bit. Some things are best left untouched till I know more what i'm doing. I prefer the idea of the flagging style leash. I doubt it'll see "strong winds" for a while, least till i'm thinking of upgrading to a newer kite.