Where to go on a Kiteboarding Holiday ??

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Zanzibar
Zanzibar
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1 May 2006 8:01am
That's the general question, .... but specifically somewhere warm, a beach for setting up, some tuition (only started 4 months ago) and somewhere where my non kiteboading wife can be happy for a couple of weeks !

I've read quite a few of the helpful posts on this forum but I'm still confused about where to go.

Can someone tell me where that warm sunny beach is, with the 20+ knots daily, the bit of tuition and the decent accommodation ?
doppelganger
doppelganger
VIC
337 posts
VIC, 337 posts
1 May 2006 11:01am
Gidday Zanzibar, In regards to your question, it really comes down to ,what your non kiteboarding wife would want out of a winter escape.

I'm single and after researhing where to take a winter holiday, I'm booked for 2 weeks cococ( keeling)island in July and 2 weeks Fiji( safari lodge) in August.

If I had a not kiteing partner who wanted the mod cons....ie: pool, beach side service ect at a reasonable price,I think I'd be of to Vietnam.

Jen from Zephyr Water Sports has trips to Vietnam, drop her a line and get a promo dvd, Once your wife see's the accommodation on dvd, I dont think you'll be twisting her arm to go.

All the best in your search
skidsy
skidsy
VIC
31 posts
VIC, 31 posts
1 May 2006 2:42pm
Malolo Lili in Fuji is an awesome spot. There's a huge bay that gets blocked off by a sand bar nearly every minute of the day so it's kiteable in any wind direction. There's flat water, consistant trade winds and warm water.
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
1 May 2006 2:45pm
All beaches are warm in the right wetsuit.

all the women want is to relax under a palm tree with a drink and for you not to pester them.

Doppleganger is going to spend 2 weeks kiting with about 7 others a boat driver and an instructor.

Zanzibar
Zanzibar
VIC
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VIC, 19 posts
1 May 2006 5:19pm
Thanks guys, I'll check these out.

Has anyone had experience with:
gowindsurfing.com/index.php
coolrider
coolrider
WA
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WA, 19 posts
1 May 2006 3:48pm
Yeah

After about 3 or 4 emails over 2 months and not one reply...i gave up waiting for an answer....posted on Seabreeze "Is Go Windsurfing still in business" and finally got a reply.....

Apparently "due to unforseen circumstances" they are not in Fiji this year?

What is all that about?.....how can you run a business by not replying to emails and then explaining to a customer that unforseen circumstances are affecting your business....?

So...i have booked with Safari Lodge - Fiji...check the website www.safarilodge.com.fj heaps of photos, heaps of clients comments...

Roll on August in Fiji...yippee!

See ya
John
elsurfs
elsurfs
24 posts
24 posts
1 May 2006 9:09pm
Why go OS when there are heaps of great spots here in Oz. my fav is Noosa late oct/nov. So much varity, flat water, surf, big down winders. Ive been ther for 4 years straight (kiting) 14 years all up. Its great for the pre season (melb). Heaps of shopping for the wife. Great beaches for the kids.
Think global holiday local!
Hi kite folk in noosa. See you in October *(if i can kite)

El out
MORT
MORT
WA
33 posts
WA, 33 posts
2 May 2006 9:12am
GOOD LUCK @ SAFARI LODGE

What a ****house spot !!

Below average riding conditions , sharp coral no launch area.

Got to be better spots in Fiji.
coolrider
coolrider
WA
19 posts
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2 May 2006 10:57am

I did my research...looked at the aerial photos of the island, checked out the dedicated Boat support and decided it's great!

Your a turkey Mort if you think kiting at low tide on a crosson-shore beach is smart! Get into the boat and go for a ride to a better location....that's all included....

I gather your like some of the others who want a 10 day deal for $100 and then complain...?

Checked out the new Beachfront bure at Safari Lodge, photos on the website....???? They have a new Bar / Restaurant / Shop opening in May, ready for the new season...

Do your homework, ask questions, email them...I'm sure your an educated kiter???

Free2Kite
Free2Kite
QLD
85 posts
QLD, 85 posts
2 May 2006 1:09pm
Hey Coolrider,

I hope you realise that you have to hold your own rig above your head and board in your teeth if you want to come on the boat with us Kiters.

Then again maybe we don't want Saiboarders on our boat.

Then again again, you might bring chocolate for the Kiting instructor and all will be OK.

Freed.

PS hey Tony, if I get coolrider too supply extra chocolate do I get some too.
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
2 May 2006 3:14pm
OK Freed,
Just for that attempt at criminal negligence ( withholding Chocolate from a kitesurf instructor) you must now also bring one, full, bottle of Southern comfort.

best got duty free at Nadi airport.
FBRoy
FBRoy
NSW
101 posts
NSW, 101 posts
2 May 2006 7:31pm
quote:
Originally posted by coolrider

Yeah

After about 3 or 4 emails over 2 months and not one reply...i gave up waiting for an answer....posted on Seabreeze "Is Go Windsurfing still in business" and finally got a reply.....

Apparently "due to unforseen circumstances" they are not in Fiji this year?

What is all that about?.....how can you run a business by not replying to emails and then explaining to a customer that unforseen circumstances are affecting your business....?

So...i have booked with Safari Lodge - Fiji...check the website www.safarilodge.com.fj heaps of photos, heaps of clients comments...

Roll on August in Fiji...yippee!

See ya
John



Hi John,

what other research did you do? I'm thinking about trying out Fiji as well... Did you email any of the clients on that web site? I heard there was another place to stay there somewhere... Did you check out the other place? I am worried about the client comments as they don't actually mention much about the wind, just the hammocks and the cooks?

What week are you booked for? I need a holiday soon.

Also, what is wrong about a cross onshore wind in Fiji? Is that a good reason to go somewhere else?

What board are you sailing at the moment, and is Fiji good for someone of your level? I'm only learning and it sounds like you are the same level as me.

Roy.
bogan
bogan
WA
4 posts
WA, 4 posts
2 May 2006 7:51pm
I agree with elsurfs. Why leave Oz when Northern Queensland has the most consistant trade winds in the South Pacific in the winter.

Don't waste your money going to Ellington Wharf (Nanui-i-ra) Fiji. I spent four months in Fiji on a yacht, and I can say that whilst Ellington Wharf can get very windy it is not consistant, launching off the beach at Nanui-i-ra is dodgy, and "kite point" is only really any good for launching at low tide. I can't comment on Safari Lodge as I didn't stay there but I know that the wind tends to cycle in Fiji for about a week at a time. As a generalisation it often tends to be windy for a week and then nothing for a week, if you are unlucky and catch a period of no wind, there is not much to do at this place.
Malolo Lili (Musket Cove or Plantation Island Resort) has an excellent kiteboarding spot. Best at the sandbar, however it is not as consistant. If you have non-kiters tagging along this is a great spot because there is a lot for all ages to do, kids clubs, pools, bars etc.

Spend you money wisely. Rent a 4x4 and drive up the North Queensland Coast, there are countless excellent kiteboarding spots, many have camp grounds/ cabins right on the beach.
Or for a higher priced alternative go to New Caledonia. EXCELLENT kiteboarding in Noumea between the main city and the smaller offshore islands or just within the bay and nice resorts.

coolrider
coolrider
WA
19 posts
WA, 19 posts
3 May 2006 4:06am
Hi Roy

I checked out Safari Lodge website, emailed Tony from Ralin, read past posts ( I gather there was some political stuff there last year with another operator, who Safari Lodge used to use, but no longer does...hence the crap!) This crap doesn't worry me....i believe i'm intelligent enough to see straight through it....

Safari Lodge don't post emails addresses on their website, probably for legal (releasing private detials), but i am sure if you wanted some info, or wanted to contact past clients - this may be able to be arranged. email them directly....i don't know.

There used to be another location which Go Windsurfing used, but they have No GEAR and NO Instructors...hence No Windsurfing....

They now send all their clients to Safari Lodge for Windsurfing and Kitesurfing...

Check out www.met.gov.fj for uptodate Wind stats...that is the best i can see...it has topographic maps and marine weather...a lot better than sucking my finger and shoving it in the air!

The Vatu-I-ra passage where Safari Lodge is is the windiest place in Fiji....apparently it is 20 knots there and 12-15 knots at Plantation Island, or 15 knots at Safari Ldoge and 10 knots at Plantation...the same day...that must be why it is agreed the wind is less consistent in the touristy islands like Plantation....

I'm booked with ralin in august...contacct him directly, [email protected] i think...

Man i'm only learning..so yes, it wil be fun to experience blasting over the waters...hoping to get hooked in the footstraps before Fiji though! Sailing a Techno 150l 283 now..just picked it up second hand...want to move to a 120-130l board though...before Fiji!

Chocolates..? I don't know anything about having to bribe the instructor with chocolate...he must be fat and round....! Go for a run instead..then i'll pass you a glass of water...

Hooray!
John
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
3 May 2006 6:22am
Hi all,

This is a photo of safari island. This shows you how **** the wind is and how gusty it is.
I have put this on here cos everyone keeps asking my about the ****ty wind there.

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=1817

Hope this helps.
Cheers paul j
coolrider
coolrider
WA
19 posts
WA, 19 posts
3 May 2006 8:02am
Thanks Paul..

I don't think your map is accurate, as the S.E. wind flows from the upwind islands, not over the hill.....Check out a topographic alighment of the island.....it faces the S.E. trade winds....Easterly are right onto it, and the Southerly until it bends at 10am into a S.E. (local thermal affect i am told)...is a little gusty..I can wait until 10am..!

Here's a little excert from Jess, she posted last year on the locatino..

Posted - 05/05/2005 : 10:55:39
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi coranto67,

I recently returned from Nananu-i-Ra Island in Fiji. The island is located off the Northern tip of the main island Viti Levu and is therefore perfectly situated to catch the SE trades. The wind is channelled along the side of Viti Levu by the mountains. Trades only kick in some time this month and apparrently go till Oct/Nov. So it was the rainy season while I was there and although still predominantly SE the wind was clearly frontal and often pretty gusty.

The East side of the island where Safari Lodge located gets a cleaner wind, Realistically the conditions are choppy as you need a decent water depth to protect yourself from the coral.

The launch is difficult regardless of tide level. Beacuse of the lay of the land the SE wind is almost directly on shore. I wouldn't recommend this side of the island to beginners and cautious intermediates unless you have a boat to take you out to safer locations.

Another kiteable spot is at the Nanau-i-Ra Island Lodge (Backpackers) on the NW tip of the island. It gets the SE as well but cos it is coming over the island it was very gusty. At all water levels it was deep enough to kite safely but is also therefore very choppy. At high tide the launch is also tricky as the wind is almost directly on shore and the trees also grow outwards. With a reliable boat you can get to spots that have clean wind, genuine flat water and sometimes both.

Most accommodations offer kayaks and snorkels and lovely patches of grass/beach to lay on for the non-kiter partner. Take heaps of good books and solid walking shoes to go exploring as you can only stomach so much snorkelling and kayaking. You will like the 25kn plus though so take a small kite and a flexy board to deal with the chop.

Jess

That's pretty clear....and if you look at a map, you can see the wind doesn't come over the hills, but along the coast onto the beach at Safari Lodge...Line up S.E. for yourself...

Jump in the Safari Lodge boat every day...yippee! Can't wait to give it a shot!

John
coolrider
coolrider
WA
19 posts
WA, 19 posts
3 May 2006 8:17am
Howdy

Found this map on the website, indicating Wind Directions....clearer!

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=1818

Looks more like Cross on Shore...the further you go down the beach the more on shore....

anyway..i'm taking the boat for my sessions....when i'm not Polesurfing (is that what you guys call it??).....
oldschool
oldschool
NSW
13 posts
NSW, 13 posts
3 May 2006 11:08am
Been there. Nananu-i-ra is a crap hole.
I can honestly say that i would never go back.
Wind is ****, accom was ****.
Way to overpriced for what is there.
Don't waste your hard earned dollars. Go and holiday somewhere else.
Go to coral coast of fiji or even better go new cal.
Better still stay in OZ and go north.
My 2 cents anyway.

Make sure you take heaps of mossie spray, i couldn't believe how bad those little buggers where.

Terry
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
3 May 2006 2:30pm
quote:
Originally posted by paul.j

Hi all,

This is a photo of safari island. This shows you how **** the wind is and how gusty it is.
I have put this on here cos everyone keeps asking my about the ****ty wind there.

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=1817

Hope this helps.
Cheers paul j



You forgot to mention that you were there as part of the Kiteboarder Mag trip!
Wasn't that the group that tried to burn the furniture and wreck the place? Then got offended when asked to leave,and been on a mission to try and discredit the place and the owner ever since!

You give yoursrlf away with the comment"cos everyone keeps asking my about the ****ty wind there."

Say no more !
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
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3 May 2006 4:58pm
To user,
It's no secret that i was there on that trip, i'm hiding nothing. Just giving my honest opinion on the kiting location.
Also we left safari lodge, we were not asked to leave.
If we where so bad why would the morrisons let us stay there for free?
Also my name is always at the bottom of my posts, nothing to hide i say it like it is!!

Paul j
MORT
MORT
WA
33 posts
WA, 33 posts
3 May 2006 5:05pm
quote:
Originally posted by coolrider


I did my research...looked at the aerial photos of the island, checked out the dedicated Boat support and decided it's great!

Your a turkey Mort if you think kiting at low tide on a crosson-shore beach is smart! Get into the boat and go for a ride to a better location....that's all included....

I gather your like some of the others who want a 10 day deal for $100 and then complain...?

Checked out the new Beachfront bure at Safari Lodge, photos on the website....???? They have a new Bar / Restaurant / Shop opening in May, ready for the new season...

Do your homework, ask questions, email them...I'm sure your an educated kiter???



Like Turkey said, good luck!

Safari Dump aside the place sucks for kiting, I'd rather use my hard earned cash and go snowboarding or something.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
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3 May 2006 9:26pm
port douglas is good from my experience in june, july.
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
3 May 2006 8:32pm
quote:
Originally posted by poor relative

check out lakshadweep
http://lakshadweep.nic.in/lakislscvr.htm
www.keralagreenery.org/isles.html
Alternativly rockingham is nice this time of year eh Mort.



jeeze they're ripping it up in those photo's
geo
geo
WA
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geo geo
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4 May 2006 3:21am
paul.j


Australia
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Posted - 29/04/2006 : 03:24:52
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for all those innocent kiteboarders who are looking to go to safari lodge or should i say warrens hell hole this winter.
Please read all this topic from the top!!!!

Warren f is a con. All who have crossed paths with him know what i am talking about!!!

paul j



>> RE: this and past posts about Safari Lodge
IMO - This could be considered defamation - be careful!
Keep it real but cover yourself against litigation Paul.J.
cheers
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
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4 May 2006 5:45am
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=1817

That's a great photo of the Island.

It seems however that when we were there we must have had different Trade winds. Either that or the Island has rotated miraculusly.

Our support boat was waiting for us at the end of one of our downwinders right where the G is in gusty. I was kiting from the boat to the middle bombie dead cross wind on both tacks in the "Trade Winds". go figure.

The wind direction indicated on the photo was actually better for our downwinders and boat launches, as we could get out to some great little reefs and launch down wind.

So guys, just imagine the fun of after 10-12ks of downwinding, passing the headland at the bottom right corner of that picture.
Seeing your home bay. The support boat anchoring off Dolphin Island.
And having to decide whether to keep blasting in the bay, land at the boat. Or just kite straight to the beach, land, and walk across the beach to the Bar.

And thanks for the heads up on that other kite spot. We thought it would be too gusty. we'll have to try it, only did a Night snorkell/spearfish there last time. Azza stirred up some ugly eel that cruised straight thru my light beam about a meter in front of me. Now that's an adrenalin rush.

Best Winds
Tony L
Zanzibar
Zanzibar
VIC
19 posts
VIC, 19 posts
4 May 2006 8:31am
Thanks guys for all your comments. I'm still checking things out and even managed to get quite enthusiastic about "doppelganger's" suggestion about going to Vietnam as this seemed to fit the bill in most departments. I've just been advised however by Jen from Zephyr though that the trip to Vietnam has been cancelled due to low numbers !! I then thought Townsville looked promising until I read that crocodiles were frequently spotted in a number of locations. As a beginner who spends more time in the water than most of you, this would not be an appealing addition to the holiday. I haven't ruled out Fiji yet but the apparent lack of beach launching and the generally less than ideal nature of the winds (2 week cycle ??) still makes me nervous.

I'm looking at http://www.choicekitesurfing.com.au/ at the moment which runs trips to the Monkey Mia region. They haven't put the 2006 trips up on the website yet but "soon" apparently. Does anyone have a view on this operator ?

Just for the record I have a GK Sonic 11 m and a Cabrinha 58 board. Sometimes I can get back to where I started but it's the walk of shame on those other occasions ! I would really like to get in a couple of weeks kiteboarding to improve the skill level and a little tuition probably wouldn't go astray either.

JulianT
JulianT
VIC
95 posts
VIC, 95 posts
4 May 2006 10:38am
Mauritius. Great wind, beaches, range of accom, flights are expensive, proably a better option for those on the west coast
Prepare
Prepare
WA
132 posts
WA, 132 posts
4 May 2006 9:11am
I was in Mauritius last November for 3 weeks. I didnt kite much then but my friends did and we went to almost every spot on the Island. Best was Le Morne which has a great hotel very close to the water. As a beginner though I didnt like it. To many people jumping to close to me or swearing at me in French or German. Plus the wind blows you straight into a reef about 500m downwind if you cant relaunch. I got rescued about 3 times then gave up. They have a beach around the corner for beginners but I was told you need to be having a lesson to use it.

Great place though. Im going back again this year and hopefully will conquer le morne.
Bowski
Bowski
VIC
204 posts
VIC, 204 posts
6 May 2006 10:44am
Just go Brazil! I'm definately going there next year, great waves, consistent wind, heaps of flat water spots, and apparently the chicks aren't too shab either!!

Bowski

PS. as for defamatory comments, if someone went and had a bad trip then they have every right to inform others, it seems to me that the pimps are pimping and the punters are warning. I looked at going to safari last year but pulled the pin mainly because the beaches looked too narrow to launch went to cocos instead!
OzFan
OzFan
WA
28 posts
WA, 28 posts
6 May 2006 2:12pm
Hi,

Im from The Netherlands. I'm already happy with the Oz winter in perth!!! This year i wanna go up on monkey mia (Shark Bay) Denham where choicekiteboarding is going (not going with em cuz i dont have that much $) i come over @ the 22st of june and go back @ the 23st of july. I think i will chill a bit in perth and than go up north for about two weeks.

You have awesome flat shallow water spots around sharkbay and REALLY nice waves too. And if its not good enough...than you can go up to Gnaraloo. I haven't been there but the temp is around 21-29 and you just can surf without a wetsuit! I really can't wait to get there!

Distances:

Monkey Mia 850KM
Gnaraloo 1400KM

Good luck!

P.S. if someone got some advise about spots i really should go than im thankfull to know about that! i checked out around Denham and Useless Loop on Google and Google Earth and some info of other websites!

Cheers, Rens

In holland we are happy as long our kitelines dont freeze....i start in water of 6 degrees and air temp of 10 degrees than you need to use boots, 5/3 streamer, cap and gloves....so i'm pretty jelous about you all!
ronaldkite
ronaldkite
WA
25 posts
WA, 25 posts
6 May 2006 2:50pm
how can you really prove its paul jackson!!!! hahahahaha no one would be stupid enough to take that to court wake up!!!!! plus warrens in another country he cant do sh#t !!! keep posting paul tell it like it is they are just trying to hide the truth.
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