gday all,
i weigh about 60kg and am trying to decide between:

9m 2004 slingshot fuel or
11m 2004 wipika matrix

ive been on my gaastra 10m gspot and prefer this size as it gives me the best wind range for my weight (13 - 25 knots). (Both these kites do not have a 10m which would have been perfect )
just wondering which kite people think is better and whether the 11m matrix would be too big for my fav kite conditions

HMM QUITE AN OPPOSITE REVIEW OF THE FLOW TO SYSTEMS UNDER THE SLINGSHOT TOPIC.....

I THINK U WOOD BE HAPPY WITH EITHER OF THE TWO KITES U MENTIONED, AS LONG AS U R HAPPY WITH THE PRICES.

im also using the 12m EH freestyle and am super happy with the kite. Real high aspect ratio (6.2) making it real easy to get upwind. Sits real high in the window and flys in winds from 13 - 22 knots for a 75kg person.looks really well made (reinforced around leading edge). Brand new for $900. Also available in 10s. Check it
http://www.customkites.com/news2003/2004Collors/index.htm

Hell..how many brands of kite are out there? Can anyone make a complete list of brands.

i work for a shop, Airborne Kitesurfing, and a national distributor - AUSWIND and have no ethical problem posting on this forum.

The truth is that forums can be a hot pot of disinformation due to posts from inexperienced or biased members.I have read plenty of stuff on here that is not only misleading but is also just plain wrong ! however Its a free world and if you are good and can read between the lines you might just extract the truth out of a query and the conflicting answers you will be supplied with.Its all a bit of sport really...

At Airborne and Auswind we are behind the sport and growing the user base First and then our brands come into the picture from that point onwards.And we stand behind our brands 100% because we are involved in their design and we have incredible aussie talent involved in creating world class product that Australians can be proud to say they are part of. We believe our brands are second to none but will also say that there are some great products out there from our competitors - this only forces everyone to lift their game and deliver superior , more efficient and more robust technology year after year.

If we were not on here posting and guiding people and organising comps (Windjam, Gerro, Rottnest, woodies) and advising on safety and having major input into waksa (this goes for many of the other shops too)and making DVDs featuring awesome local talent so that people overseas can see whats going on here
then do you believe the sport would be where it is today in WA ? We also supply kitesurfing schools nationwide making it super affordable to get the best teaching gear into the hands of instructors and students to ensure that they have an easy road into kitesurfing.Remember it is shops and distributors like these that sponsor our local heroes like Dan Anderson, Ryland, Jake , Theresa etc. making it more possible for them to get to comps , the nationals , overseas.

With a sport like kite surfing it is quite possible to go very wrong in your equipment choice as a beginner - 3.2 2 line foil and 137 wakeboard with bindings anyone ? Seen plenty of these sold through the quokka.

Try and see the big picture when you see a post from a distributor or a shop.

pain don't hurt !

SYSTEM REBOOT

Hey mattress man, if you read the first post by Dan the bloke is seeking advice on which kite too choose. A Matrix or Fuel, then a shop jumps on and says "what about our brand". You are insulting the intelligence of the kiting community, if you claim you have their best interests at heart. The post by Jess (who is a lovely girl) proves otherwise.I hope you can see MY point of veiw.

SYSTEM SHUTDOWN

i love this ****.............heehhehehehehhehehehehe

yes well me and my friends got the bad info first hand by forking out 1600 bucks for a wippi 6.5 2 line that we were told was the perfect kite that u wont get sick of and funny how it was perfect for me that weighs 85kg and still perfect for my friend that weighs 72kg. hmm???
it was too small for me after 1 month.
dont think i need to mention names but i see a lot of them still in the for sale sections everywhere...
search the net and talk on the beach. but remember only believe half of what u hear.

seems to be few people using this forum as an advertisng tool...selling kites directly to the consumer (ie. direct from the factory) assuming for a sales fee, and thereby screwing the local retailers... legalities, do these people have abn's to they do all the legal stuff like charge gst, pay import duties etc. and if something goes wrong will they take responsibilitity for the product, do they have insurance etc. I encourage people to support their local stores who hopefully conduct their business in a morally and legally correct manner.

YES I AGREE JAN
THE PRICES OF KITE SHOPS IN PERTH ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID.
ONLY SUCCERS OR SPONSORS CAN AFFORD TO BUY THERE.

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Originally posted by gumball

<<XXXXX>> is now selling Best kites!

[[SNIP-NO ADVERTISING IN THE FORUMS!!]]

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so what does that mean to the consumer in oz, local shop adding in their cut???? A quote from your web site

"Modeled after Dell... With no middle men or retailers, we are able to keep our prices incredibly low while maintaining the highest quality standards in the industry..... , the most important of which is that you save up to 50% on the highest quality gear in the industry!""

no middle men or retailers aye... so what a week after you launch you are going back on you busness plan??

So can we still order off the net, or do we know have to order thru KP who is for some of us 3500 kms away?

waiting your reply

regards

Hey Andrew what kite company do you run again......if this is andrew who runs sandgroperkites......

mate come on the internet is the fastest and easyest way to do business these days. Cut out the middle man, to bloody right, he wants too much. We do it, Monkey does it, Best does it, EH Cab... does it.

regards BROWNEEE

I think that in any case you get what you pay for. And for people who buy sandgroper/ china kites where is the warranty and what happens if you blow a bladder or something goes wrong who will be there to help you with you cheap kite then

woohoo

Who is entitled to an ABN

Do I need an ABN?
Not everyone is entitled to an ABN.
Companies registered under the Corporations Law and business entities carrying on an enterprise in Australia are entitled to an ABN.
Employees and hobbyists are not entitled to an ABN as they are not carrying on an enterprise.
Self-funded retirees do not need an ABN. They continue to use their tax file number when reporting their annual income to the ATO.

Is the ABN compulsory?
Applying for an ABN is not compulsory. However, if you are required to register for GST, you will need to apply for an ABN as well.
All businesses with an annual turnover of $50, 000 or more must register for GST and will need an ABN to do this. This can be done on the same form. Organisations with a lower annual turnover may choose to register.
If you are not required to register for GST, you can still apply for an ABN.
All non-profit organisations with an annual turnover of $100, 000 or more must register for GST and therefore need an ABN. Also, businesses that need to be endorsed as a gift deductible recipient or an income tax exempt charity or both, require an ABN.

Why might my enterprise need an ABN?
You need an ABN and GST registration in order to claim GST credits for any GST you have paid for goods and/or services you have used in your business. If you are supplying goods or services, you will need to be able to quote an ABN so that others businesses do not withhold tax at the top marginal rate when they pay you.

How does the ABN affect relations between businesses?
Businesses registered for GST are required to issue tax invoices that quote their ABN. Under pay as you go taxation, businesses receiving an invoice are required to withhold tax from their payments for goods and services if an ABN is not quoted.



this is a quote taken from the ATO......

Andrew to answer your question no i do not have an ABN as i am not required to. What chinakites sell's is recreational sports good for personel use, under ATO rulings the purchaser is not required info about an ABN as he/she cannot gain anything from it. Also small business's under $50,000 do not require an ABN also. To add to this we do not not require any services from any company within australia for GST purposes and we also do not import any goods into the country as we sell directly out of china, purchaser pays for there own importing as clearly stated on the web site.


regards BROWNEEE