keep good speed but in control, move the kite high before you start the backroll and keep it in that position until you land, you dont need to send it like in a normal jump., helps if you look for a bit of chop or small wave to jump from, remember to pull thye bar in as youy jump from the water for that little extra boost...good luck

A thread so good you made it not once, not twice, but three times.

Yeah it's a funny move, people kept saying how easy it is, first real trick etc etc but for some reason I kept looping the kite (obviously pulling hard on the backhand).

I'd land half of them with a kite loop which was awesome.....BUT the other half were downright scary, nasty and humbling!! .

brady said...

I really struggled to understand what I needed to do to make it happen. I also tried looking over shoulder etc, but it just didn't come together.

It took me years to get my head around it.

While all of the above statements are correct, it wasn't enough for me.

It finally came together when I understood the path my feet needed to take through the air. I envisaged how my board would have to start on a smooth curve that would continue around my body until it landed. Doing it off a small piece of chop is definitely the way to go.

After that long trying and failing, when I finally nailed it I went a little crazy with it - getting dizzy from doing too many

Yes im in my 2nd season trying to landed and i havent land not even 1 my friend got it in 3 days i try chop and throwing my head but no. what do youmean with the small curve??? maybe i have your same problem

As with a lot of tricks you have to commit. Take the punishment a few times, then it will work and you will wonder what all the fuss was about. Commit to the move and dont think too much about the technical aspects, these will work themselves out.

Initially I followed the steps noted here;
www.seabreeze.com.au/Articles/Kitesurfing/How-to-do-a-backroll_3454511.aspx
Completing it without moving the kite at all, using pop to get the air.

After I had that dialled, then I tried moving the kite to 12 and rotating under it.

Personally I prefer the first method, its a bit more of a powered move, now i generally only move the kite higher if doing doubles or trying backroll transitions (which im still yet to master).

Keep at it, and it will all click soon enough

ps big slow lifty kite is heaps easier than small fast kite.

i didn't take time to read all the posts so sorry in advance if i repeat anything.

but in my time of instructing and watching people try learn their first rotations I have noticed the most common issue is people just cut upwind, scoop and hope for the best with the rotation. They don't actually generate the pop and get in the air before they spin. this leads to getting no height.

break it down into steps, pause a bit before you rotate.. so go into the trick like you would for just a normal jump, load up, send your kite and pop, once you leave the water look over your back shoulder to get the rotation going. spot your landing and bring your kite down for the landing.

doing it this way your first few will be a bit of a horizontal spin and more like a bit of a 360 than a flip. but as you get used to this movement you can throw your head in different variations, looking up towards the sky as you throw your head and shoulders around for example will get you more inverted. but start with the basic for now and see how you go.

if you make a little video i am happy to watch it and give you pointers from there.