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bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
26 Feb 2008 9:11pm
I have been having a hard time finding any reveiws about the convert. It sounds like it could be a good kite, Cabrinhas best 'allrounder' possibly. Has anybody got any experience with them and hoew does it compare to other so called allround freeride kites like the rev,cult, waroo, rebel ect?. Also am I correct in assuming it sits between the revolver and the switchblade?
full.contact
full.contact
NSW
89 posts
NSW, 89 posts
26 Feb 2008 11:57pm
Was able to fly a whole bunch of kites one after the other the other day including the Revolver, Switchy, Rebel and Convert and I think you've hit the nail on the head when you say the convert sits between the other two in an overall comparison.

A few obvious features when comparing between Cabrinhas:

*The SB generates the most power and Revolver the least.
*Revolver has fastest turn speed
*Convert has easiest relaunch, Revolver the least
*Revolver fastest to depower

The Rebel is certainly comparable to the Convert

Have a go on a demo kite to see which one you feel most comfortable on and bear in mind which style of riding you plan on focusing more. Definately a good all round free-ride kite for the price. Hope that helps!
rastazungu
rastazungu
QLD
42 posts
QLD, 42 posts
27 Feb 2008 4:08am
We use the converts to teach on and I ride them when I'm not teaching(WA Surf). On the 1-1 bar set up they are sweet. i was looking for something to rival the atom for feel and performance in waves and freestyle, combined. I am really stoked at how versatile they are. tested them in high winds, low winds, flat water, waves, you name it. It really is a true all rounder. if you can't get anything out of a Convert then you need some more lessons. It is beginner - adv friendly. Still haven't played around with all the convert , conversions yet, but certainly will.
NSW, 4382 posts
27 Feb 2008 10:32am
bennie said...

I have been having a hard time finding any reveiws about the convert. It sounds like it could be a good kite, Cabrinhas best 'allrounder' possibly. Has anybody got any experience with them and hoew does it compare to other so called allround freeride kites like the rev,cult, waroo, rebel ect?. Also am I correct in assuming it sits between the revolver and the switchblade?


The Convert is a redesigned Omega, the Omega was released at the end of the 2007 season. It pioneered the new construction technique of the 2008 Cabrinha range. Omegas and Converts are very good vlaue for money.
The Convert is a full bow kite design with far better relaunch and and bottom end than the Omega it replaces. The Convert works better in 1:1 mode.


The Convert is a convertible as the name suggests. Similar in that respect to the Revolver.
The Convert is a good all round kite, it has easy relaunch, and fast depower in the 2:1 setup. Bar pressure is a bit higher than average in 2:1, and turning speed would be medium and turn radius not too tight.
In 1:1 the kite loses some of the feel from the backlines and the depower throw is much longer, so it can be harder for begginers to "feel" the kite and fly it.
They were the last of the kites to be released this year and maybe not a lot of shops ordered many, so there are not many around?

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
27 Feb 2008 9:18pm
Full contact, were you riding the revolver in 2-1 setup? because one of my mates reckons the switchblabe turns alot quicker than the revolver when its in 1-1 set up. Also which set up did you ride the convert in? Steve and Rasta both like it in 1-1 mode better.

Steve, when you say that in 1-1 mode it can be hard to feel the kite, does this mean there is no bar pressure?. I dont like heavy bar pressure but I do like to be able to feel the kite move when not looking. Also how would you rate the turning speed of the convert in 1-1 mode?

One more question, as I am a newbie to the whole bow kite phenom, can you breifly explain the advantages and dissadvantahes of the 2-1 vs 1-1 setups.

Thanks

Bennie
full.contact
full.contact
NSW
89 posts
NSW, 89 posts
28 Feb 2008 2:02am
bennie said...

Full contact, were you riding the revolver in 2-1 setup? because one of my mates reckons the switchblabe turns alot quicker than the revolver when its in 1-1 set up. Also which set up did you ride the convert in? Steve and Rasta both like it in 1-1 mode better.

Steve, when you say that in 1-1 mode it can be hard to feel the kite, does this mean there is no bar pressure?. I dont like heavy bar pressure but I do like to be able to feel the kite move when not looking. Also how would you rate the turning speed of the convert in 1-1 mode?

One more question, as I am a newbie to the whole bow kite phenom, can you breifly explain the advantages and dissadvantahes of the 2-1 vs 1-1 setups.

Thanks

Bennie




Hey mate,

Used everything in 1:1 on the day (agree with Steve and Rasta, I personally prefer 1:1 setup). For sure there's always a healthy spectrum of opinions on a kites performance but I really dont think you could say that that switchblade turns faster than the revolver.

1:1 is good, I like riding and being able to sheet and steer the kite with one hand which is made easier (minimal force needed from one hand) in 1:1, the drawback is that you must move the bar a relatively long way to achieve a desired amount of de-power when compared to 2:1.

2:1 allows the same controls to be given to the kite, however this can be achieved without moving the bar as far/much to de-power/turn the kite. Sounds all good but the catch is that this is achieved at the cost of needing to apply more force to the bar.

One set up isn't better than the other, both 2:1 and 1:1 have areas where they excel- it's all personal preference but you get them both with the convert anyway
Unhook679
Unhook679
WA
26 posts
WA, 26 posts
28 Feb 2008 2:45am
Hi guys, what does mean 2:1 , 1:1 , 1:2 ????
Thanks
NSW, 4382 posts
28 Feb 2008 10:49am
Unhook679 said...

Hi guys, what does mean 2:1 , 1:1 , 1:2 ????
Thanks


2:1 means its a pulley bar, there are pulleys on the ends of the bar, that have a doubling effect on the amount the rear lines are shortened or lengthened, relative to the front lines.

1:1 means its not a pulley bar and the rear and front lines change length relative to each other by half the amount compared to a pulley bar, for an equal movement of the bar, towards or away from the kite (sheet out or sheet in).

1:2 not sure what you mean, I understand the ratio, but where have you seen it on a kite bar?

When I said that in 1:1 the rear lines get harder to feel, that because the bar pressure is a lot lighter, its not meant to be a negative comment.
A rider would get used to it quickly anyway, it was more about how the kite felt for me compared to what I normally ride and prefer, which is the SB3 1:1 setup and feel.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

full.contact
full.contact
NSW
89 posts
NSW, 89 posts
28 Feb 2008 12:25pm
Kitepower Australia said...

Unhook679 said...

Hi guys, what does mean 2:1 , 1:1 , 1:2 ????
Thanks


2:1 means its a pulley bar, there are pulleys on the ends of the bar, that have a doubling effect on the amount the rear lines are shortened or lengthened, relative to the front lines.

1:1 means its not a pulley bar and the rear and front lines change length relative to each other by double the amount compared to a pulley bar, for an equal movement of the bar, towards or away from the kite (sheet out or sheet in).




Hey Steve,

Could have read it wrong but "for an equal movement of the bar" wouldn't you say 1:1 only changes rear line lengths by half the amount of 2:1?

Spose you could replace "for an equal movement of the bar" with "for an equal amount of de-power"

I never liked ratio's at school anyway
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
28 Feb 2008 4:52pm
I appreciate the info guys. Thats what I like about this forum, straight answers and no sales pitch. Anyway enough talk I really need to go and demo one now.
Thanks again

Bennie
NSW, 4382 posts
28 Feb 2008 6:52pm
You are correct Full.contact, I changed my post, thanks.

Regards

steve
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