suffering another back injury again, due to the kites high aspect would a seat harness be better, im interested to see what harnesses you wear and why, any input would be great and brand recommendations, changing kites is not gonna happen, cheers cauncy

Cauncy why has the high aspect of this kite hurt your back as opposed to any other kite?

13 years ago for 3 years I used seat harnesses. I then went a waist harness for 6 odd years, and my back kept getting very sore. My brother has the same issue.

Went back to seat harnesses on not an issue with back pain at all.

I feel it is because the kite pulls from lower down, you can really straighten your legs. Just a theory but in reality no back pain.

I use a flying objects seat harness with a dyna bar, although the weld snapped on me yesterday and I was out on my northers brand new ion waist harness. Guess what? Have pulled some stomach muscles on the right side! Might just be because of the incessant large boosting over the past three days, who knows.

Its an older flying objects harness, heavyish but solid built. The new ones have smaller backs and two have fell apart in 6 months. My friend and my bothers. Sure they are lighter but the build quality is not enough to withstand the stress. Mine still going after 3 years.

My bro has got into one of those ion board short seat harnesses and loves them. I'm yet to try it.

Also depending on budget, dyna bar have come out with their own harness, Witt he dyna bar set up that can be ridden with or without leg straps. It looks really deep in profile and well built.

If I was going to buy another it would be that one. Not sure if available in Australia yet but hey when's that stopped ya cauncy. Lol. Its 220 euro though.

Crew slammed me when I mentioned the seat harness has stopped my back problems and the new waist harnesses don't ride up etc, but I say bullsh1t,l they all ride up and they all hurt my back. The lack of back pain was instantaneous. Biomechanically they make sense to me.

Eppo

eppo said...
why has the high aspect of this kite hurt your back as opposed to any other kite?

i wouldnt blame the kite or any specific harness, its my days in the forces and building that have been the main problem ,but its now that im paying for it, i dont get any pains while kiting its usually a build up especially at this time of the year ive limited my hours on the water, instead of a big long session i go hard for a shorter time , but when its on im know ill be out longer than i think, the more i look into the seat and how i ride im sure itll do the job, dont care if i look a cock, im well past that era, i dont think how cool i look when im 40 ft above the water, ive been working my core strength a couple of times a day to help , which im sure it has, ive switched boards to the shinn monk which is super smoooth in the chop, my complaint is compression ie bulging discs , so the way im thinking is although my board helps and my knees absorb some of the shock the next spot is my back, so by having the pull from my thighs and arse cheeks it should limit the pressure on the spine, i love to ride full throttle freeride jumping transitions , big boosts, and attack the surf , the water conditions here can be pretty bad, 25knts no swell = severe chop, ive heard good reports on both the darkine shorts and seats but problems with snapping spreader bars , and when fully lit on the edges i dont want that on my mind, maybe i go with the shorts and ill look totally cool in the winter with them over my wetty, can you get them in orange

I wear a Flying Objects waist harness. I used to use a Dakine seat harness but the waist harness allows me to go toe side so much easier. I don't see why a high aspect kite would make any difference. I have 5 Ozone Edges.

Where is your back pain? That's probably key to what;s going to work best. I've had a lower back op and find that the more I kite the stronger it feels. I use a waist harness that's a tad on the big side but still tightens up well. My theory is that the pull is spread over a wider area so doesn't give me any hassle.

had a waist harness and it seemed to limit upper body motion a bit
had a seat harness and it seemed to limit lower body motion a bit

now have a shorts harness and it is better than either for overall motion and with the extra flexibility i have no low back pain at all now and it does pull from a bit lower than the waist so less back strain as well
and a bit longer throw when overpowered seems to help as well

Well my bro has some ion shorts I think that is the brand gonna give them a go when the weather decides to drop below 40!!! Will feed back and try and see what the deal is with this concept.

Yeh the dynabar works cauncy not a prob with boosting and much much better on waves. My aluminium framework snapped the other day though just wondering about durability. Still think the new dyna bar with their own harness looks good. Really deep profile and the system wraps heaps around the hips to really get that kite around the window. But who wants to be the first to get one? Cost 270 without postage yet. But if you buy a harness plus 150 for the dynabar might be even above this price.

I got the ION shorts about 8 weeks ago
Love them did I say I love them

Yeh was talking more with my brother today and he said the shorts are really something. Really low hook position, no ball clamping, really light. Feels like you ar emits wearing board shorts. He's sold on them.