eye damage and the sun, pterygiums

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stanhalen
stanhalen
WA
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WA, 187 posts
9 Feb 2006 7:43pm


Just wondering how many people are experience the joy of pterygium growths in their eyes. Mine are that cronic my eyes burn and are glowing red for days after a session, without sunnys. And I thought it was all the ****ing!. Serious people wear sunnys.

http://www.stlukeseye.com/Conditions/Pterygium.asp
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
9 Feb 2006 7:46pm
I buy them by the box load
robbo
robbo
WA
306 posts
WA, 306 posts
9 Feb 2006 8:15pm
i thought that was a link to plug selling sunnies with a really cool name.
till i looked at the pic.
urgh.
gls
gls
WA
284 posts
gls gls
WA, 284 posts
10 Feb 2006 12:35am
I had these from years of sailing on the Swan River. Have given me problems for years after. But it wasn't till I noticed this post that I've thought about them again. I don't think I've experienced the irritation for a number of years. Perhaps they can diminish with time? Does anyone on this forum know?
Graeme
kusu
kusu
QLD
485 posts
QLD, 485 posts
10 Feb 2006 7:54am
Has anyone here ordered prescription watersunnies?
Happy with them? I've seen oakley waterjackets, sundog and seaspecs
any other good ones??
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
10 Feb 2006 9:36am
I have spent most of my life in the sun and snow 42 years and have always worm sunnies no eye damage.Some people call me a kook for wearing them on the water .I value my vision more than their childish opinion.
There was a news article the other day recommending that kids always wear sunnies out doors also
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
10 Feb 2006 7:14am
yES. You should all wear sunnies... especially if your eyes look like the one in the photo; you'd be freaking me out if you didn't!
Coral Sea
Coral Sea
QLD
476 posts
QLD, 476 posts
10 Feb 2006 9:57am
Hey Kusu,

yep, I have my prescription in my oakley water jackets which I wear kiting and surfing, and also in my standard dark sunnies which I wear while working (boating / diving).

Never go out in the sun without them basically, and I have no eye problems and I have been working on the water in the tropics here in NQ since '87.

Andy
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
10 Feb 2006 2:36pm
in my early 20's i experienced pterygium growth on both of my eyes from years of fishing and windsurfing.
i hardly wore sunnies back then, but faced with the prospect of surgical removal i immediately bought the best polarised sunnies i could afford and wore them religiously when outdoors.
over the next year or so the growths shrank and dissapeared.
you can work out your own moral.
stanhalen
stanhalen
WA
187 posts
WA, 187 posts
10 Feb 2006 12:53pm
thanks for that greenleader, don't really want to have an operation, hopefully they will disappear, like yours.
cheers
eightfootplus
eightfootplus
NSW
298 posts
NSW, 298 posts
10 Feb 2006 4:27pm
Hey guys are there good polarising lenses and bad ones? are some better than others or is it just branding and style?


greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
10 Feb 2006 3:28pm
clarky,
i didn't and still dont wear them windsurfing or kiting.
water sunnies weren't available years ago, but i'm sure wearing them on the water as well would definately help.
i'm sure the trick is to get good lenses. kaenon, hobie, revo, spotters, maui jim etc and not crappy fashion surf/street aimed brands even though they maybe relatively expensive.
regards ian.
getnwet
getnwet
WA
16 posts
WA, 16 posts
10 Feb 2006 1:36pm
I started getting the things when I was about 17(Started as little red dots). By the time I was 18 they were heaps bigger I went out and got water jackets there pretty good. The glasses dont stop them growing they just slow them!

But one thing to remember its not just the sun that causes them. Wind, salt and suncream all irritate them and cause them to grow. Even smoke at pubs is bad for them(F***ing smokers)
richo
richo
QLD
337 posts
QLD, 337 posts
10 Feb 2006 5:15pm
i also have em bad. I am pretty sure they can only remove them once or twice due to the resulting scare tissue. They do not peel off they SCRAPE off. Best to wait because the medical technology is improving all the time. Only get them removed if ya really have to cause they can grow back.The procedure is a not pleasent
Shan
Shan
WA
129 posts
WA, 129 posts
10 Feb 2006 10:21pm
I have a big one on my right eye.. it sucks big time, my eyes hurt so bad sometimes that I cant kite any longer as the salt water that splashes in my eyes feels like acid and I cant open my eyes enough to see properly. I found that sunnies helped heaps as well as not putting any sunscreen anywhere near my eyes and dont rub your eyes either it just agrivates it even more. Also keep them moist. A simple wash with some contact lens solution after kiting helps to relieve the burning.
GregS
GregS
NSW
25 posts
NSW, 25 posts
11 Feb 2006 5:20am
quote:
Originally posted by eightfootplus

Hey guys are there good polarising lenses and bad ones? are some better than others or is it just branding and style?



Hi. I went lookinmg for sunnies about a year ago. My Dad had pterygiums scraped off both eyes... not fun. Lots of salt water and sun exacerbates them. Water sunnies cut heaps of spray, as well as cut the harmful UV's.

Basically, UV-A and UV-B are bad, so look for lenses with 99% or 100% absorption. Polarised is good, as it cuts glare up from the water surface as well as lets you see INTO the water - you can see fish, rocks, shallow sandbar, etc.
So-called 'brown' lenses are better than 'grey' lenses on water as they cut more of the glarey blue segment of the light spectrum. Although grey lenses lets you see more natural colour.

You also want them to stay on in a wipeout. And not fog up.
Then there's style and branding.. whetever looks good.

More info at:
ww38.qfind.net/?_inv&subid1=20200320-2300-1377-a564-24c23b4299a5
www.shieldseyewear.com/lens_choice.html

Some good water sunnies I found at:
www.spexusa.com/SPEXGoggles.asp
www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e2038.asp
www.blueye.com.au/store/customer/product.php?productid=16135&cat=251&page=1
www.seaspecs.com/
www.shieldseyewear.com/models_sp.html

I ended up getting seaspecs. Never come off despite some heavy faceplants. 100% UVA & UVB. Polarised. look fine. No pterygiums (so far). Costs about AU$85

Cheers
Greg



sarc
sarc
NSW
71 posts
NSW, 71 posts
11 Feb 2006 11:10am
quote:
Originally posted by pclarky


There are contact lenses that claim to cut UV light. I use them, find them very comfortable, but wondering if they are really effective? Any optometrists out there?

Just wondering how many people are experience the joy of pterygium growths in their eyes. Mine are that cronic my eyes burn and are glowing red for days after a session, without sunnys. And I thought it was all the ****ing!. Serious people wear sunnys.

http://www.stlukeseye.com/Conditions/Pterygium.asp

Bowski
Bowski
VIC
204 posts
VIC, 204 posts
11 Feb 2006 12:15pm
Not sure about shrinking, but i suppose anything is possible, my experience is that once removed they can return and turn cancerous. I have had a few mates had them removed and be severely warned about not wearing sunnies, sunnies only block out 50% of the light, a peaked cap blocks out the other 50%, keep that in mind. Glassy conditions can cause the equivalent of snow blindness, had a few real sunnie, glassy days in Sumatra last year!! Also the sun reflecting off chop!! Since wearing sunnies for kiting my are no probs, a little harder in the surf as when you are surfing 6 foot plus they tend to be a hassle. As far as sea specs are concerned, dont waste your money, poorly made, had the last 5 pairs break, with lenses popping out.
Surfrod66
Surfrod66
NSW
665 posts
NSW, 665 posts
11 Feb 2006 9:24pm
Hi Guys I had mine removed by surgery last year they CUT IT OUT AND DID A SKIN GRAPH WITH A NEW PIECE OF SKIN FROM MY EYE UNDER MY EYELID where it had had no UV exposure. This results in STITCHES ON THE NEW PIECE OF SKIN and an open wound under the eyelid,5mths off the water. I now wear sunnies and a hat.My friends could not look at my eye when it had the stitches. Some of them now have sunnies too! 30 year of being to cool to cover up!! A hard lesson
stanhalen
stanhalen
WA
187 posts
WA, 187 posts
11 Feb 2006 7:06pm
Thanks again everyone for the posts, very helpfull to me, and should scare the **** out of anyone too cool to wear sunnys.
jeremy
jeremy
WA
202 posts
WA, 202 posts
11 Feb 2006 11:14pm
I work as an anaesthetist for an eye surgeon. He regularly operates on people with bad pterygium. Basically the pterygium is cut out and a graft ..like a split skin graft is taken from the conjunctiva (nearby layer that covers the eye outside the pupil ) and covers the excised area. It is very sore and red for about 10 days and then settles down. The long term results are very good. WA has a high incidence of Pterygium because of the harshness of our conditions...ie glare, uv light, wind ,sand ...all irritants.

jeremy
hungup2
hungup2
10 posts
10 posts
12 Feb 2006 10:27am
YUK! No Thanks.
Those Oakley sound good. Who sells them in Sydney? How much?
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
14 Feb 2006 12:39am
i seriously want to tell everyone that by wearing expensive polarised sunnies for every waking hour in the outdoors reduced the growths on my eyes to nil. in a couple of years!
takes conviction.
p.s. i do spend a lot of time on the water,
and i don't wear them on the water.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
14 Feb 2006 10:48am
i have recently been wearing a large broad rimmed hat on the water also .This is truly kooky plus has little effect as the brim turns up when riding .i like the peaked cap idea .
richo
richo
QLD
337 posts
QLD, 337 posts
14 Feb 2006 11:04am
glasses and the helmet and are a good combo. If your thinnin up top you better watch out.
zephyr
zephyr
NSW
84 posts
NSW, 84 posts
14 Feb 2006 3:33pm
got em too, but mine is raised so when it is agrivated, ie: kiting, sun, salt, tiredness, stress, computer, reading etc, it feels like a bit of sand is stuck under my eyelid and scratches my eye! Ive seen lots of specialists and they dont want to touch it, they say it can grow back faster after the op.

I got decent full wrap sunnies to wear ALL the time and use SYSTAINE Plus (spelling?) eye drops, get from Chemist. They are so refeashing and soothing. They form a gell in your eye and it feels heaps better. I have bottles lying around all over the Place.
Try it.
Lynita
Lynita
QLD
60 posts
QLD, 60 posts
14 Feb 2006 6:41pm
I have developed them, now wish I hadn't been a cheap arse and worn crap sunnies for 3 years. Now religiously wear my seaspecs. Spend the money, get good sunnies and you won't have to keep telling everyone that your not stoned but that you have pterigiums [perigi-what?]
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
14 Feb 2006 6:36pm
You wouldn't believe the arguments I have with my child about wearing sunnies out there....your eyes are valuable....duh. But I tell you, if I lost my sight, I'de learn to kite blind.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
15 Feb 2006 1:27am
help, run for cover gruezi's going to boost!
don't worry nick,you just need to buy the sunny style frames that pop idols wear. e.g. the veronicas,fitty cent etc.
kids luv em. and will think you are a bit cool.
even though you are not.
bit like me!
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
15 Feb 2006 1:01am
Yea Greenie once one is blind, then it is only about style. Doing crazy tricks is sort of like riding blind..more cold beer please.
Going
Going
58 posts
58 posts
15 Feb 2006 12:36pm
just bought sundeg sunnies. are they good enough for kitesurfing?
i didnt want to spend 250 bugs on oakleys!
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