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h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
19 Jan 2010 11:53pm
ok basically i dont know if you remember about 3 months ago i said my girlfriend and i broke up, well ive got a real chance of getting my family back, But its going to take a few sacrificies i am more than happy to make if it means i get them back. I need to sell my toys, mainly for the reason as we have nearly no money behind us and i need to be more responsible about things and get us in position to buy a house.. basically i need to grow up now here is what ive got to sell i know this is usually frowned apon advertising in the forum but im hoping this is a special case.. i understand laurie if its not :)

2010 9m north vegas black and white used literally once last friday sell for $1400

2008 9m hadlow pro 5 line set up with 6 line conversion still in perfect nick no damage or repairs $700

and the big one my baby yamaha r6 99 grey and black roo racer exhust sounds ohh just beautiful and so very very fast $5300 now this is stuff ive bought in the last 6 months or so and im selling a lot cheaper than i bought i really need the money asap so if you have the need for any off the above please pm me
and WOOO HOO!! dont ever EVER take your family for granted its the most amazing thing you will ever have in your life!

thanks guy

ben
Fooosh
Fooosh
WA
563 posts
WA, 563 posts
20 Jan 2010 8:55am
Mate, I'm happy for you moving forward!

I just don't know what is worse! I hated imagining you sitting at home with no toys / outlet and all the ol family and relationship stress creeping up again.

Just hoping you kept at least one board and kite! (and some kiting credits in the wifey bank)

All the best!!
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
20 Jan 2010 11:36am
She doesnt seem worth it. What is she giving up selling all her jewellery, shoes car? Who wants a house you her? There is nothing like making a 30 year financial comitment with some one that has allready left you once. Must be love because no one can understand that when looking in from the outside.

I hope all works out well.
Idiot
Idiot
WA
577 posts
WA, 577 posts
20 Jan 2010 9:28am
If I remember correctly your GF and your baby left you alone and your dog got lost!

Then you found your dog
You found your love but you are just too dumb to get it

All you need is a dog for you emotional needs, your right hand for your physical needs and a good sea breeze
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
20 Jan 2010 9:46am
Hi Ben,

Approach this one with plenty of objective consideration. I think losing the bike is a good idea, you're a family man now in any case. As for losing the kites, you are a manically energetic guy and I suggest you need an outlet for your energy and a place to go to be able to chill and recharge the batteries. For what you'll get for the kites, it is worth more than that to you as an emotional/physical outlet for when you need to unwind.

It's only going to put about $7000 in your bank, what will happen when the money runs out? Will she leave again? She left once and now knows that that stunt gets action from you it could end up that you become a slave to the whims of your woman. If she doesn't love you enough in the first place to try and make it work without splitting and taking your kid, how confident are you that she's not going to bolt if a better offer comes along.

I've traveled to many third world countries and you know what? Love exists even in poverty. Money in the bank and a nice house/car etc will not make the relationship work if there is a deeper problem in the first place.

Having said that though, she is right to a degree, you should start acting responsibly as a provider for her and the little one. It is time to grow up.

Jump into the shoes of a third party and look at your relationship from the eyes of someone else, ie remove the emotional part of it, so you can get a clearer picture of the entire relationship and the pluses and minuses. Clear your head, search your soul and listen to your intuition. Your inner voices first thoughts are usually correct.

Be brave mate and think it all through. Whatever your decision, I'm sure it will be the best decision for you at that time.

Best of luck,

KH
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
20 Jan 2010 1:01pm
As someone who has recently found out his wife is pregnant, I can fully understand her concerns. If you're still buying toys and part of these were the reason for the split, then its only logical to get rid of them as a peace maker. Realistically, you don't need 2 or 3 kites, particularly if you're not going to be getting much kiting in with the baby there. Have one kite and be more selective about when you go out.

You have a family to consider and financial decisions can't be selfish. Every kite you buy is less clothes for the baby and money out of their college fund or school fees.

I'm happy to accept that when my new one is born, its unlikely I'll be kiting nearly as much and I'll probably get away with one kite, but thats life and thats priorities. You cannot fault someone for putting family first or coming to the realisation that family is more important. Not one person I know who has had a baby has said that they feel they are losing something by spending more time with the baby and less time on the kite, they may be disappointed they can't kite more, but I don't think they'd sacrifice their baby time to achieve it.

I consider kiting with a wife and baby to be more of a bank than a credit card. You build up points and withdraw them when you need to. If you're building up debt by kiting before you build it up and trying to recover from it, she won't be happy, but the other way around she'll be offering to let you go out and kite because she's happy and feels guilty about you not kiting. Better for her to be feeling guilty than you, because that **** gets caught in their memory for ages.
au_rick
au_rick
WA
752 posts
WA, 752 posts
20 Jan 2010 12:17pm
Kitehard said...

Hi Ben,

Approach this one with plenty of objective consideration. I think losing the bike is a good idea, you're a family man now in any case. As for losing the kites, you are a manically energetic guy and I suggest you need an outlet for your energy and a place to go to be able to chill and recharge the batteries. For what you'll get for the kites, it is worth more than that to you as an emotional/physical outlet for when you need to unwind.

It's only going to put about $7000 in your bank, what will happen when the money runs out? Will she leave again? She left once and now knows that that stunt gets action from you it could end up that you become a slave to the whims of your woman. If she doesn't love you enough in the first place to try and make it work without splitting and taking your kid, how confident are you that she's not going to bolt if a better offer comes along.

I've traveled to many third world countries and you know what? Love exists even in poverty. Money in the bank and a nice house/car etc will not make the relationship work if there is a deeper problem in the first place.

Having said that though, she is right to a degree, you should start acting responsibly as a provider for her and the little one. It is time to grow up.

Jump into the shoes of a third party and look at your relationship from the eyes of someone else, ie remove the emotional part of it, so you can get a clearer picture of the entire relationship and the pluses and minuses. Clear your head, search your soul and listen to your intuition. Your inner voices first thoughts are usually correct.

Be brave mate and think it all through. Whatever your decision, I'm sure it will be the best decision for you at that time.

Best of luck,

KH


^^^ sounds like good advice, but you know what, it wouldn't hurt for the both of you to go see a professional counsellor together to get that objectivity on both sides.

As the age old addage goes,.. when the money runs out , the woman soon follows
loverboy
loverboy
WA
614 posts
WA, 614 posts
20 Jan 2010 12:24pm
All the best fella- sometimes lads get up there mates about being whipped and whatnot but at the end of the day there needs to be a balance between your recreation time, time with the lads and quality time with ya partner...

From what I read the girl wants to see some maturity from the father of her child...she wants the security of a house and a foundation for their relationship. If it makes ya happy mate all the best.
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
20 Jan 2010 1:16pm
thanks guys seriously nothing NOTHING is more important to me than my family i have no problem parting with my material things. If i can sell the bike for enough i may be able to keep the vegas but im really not worried if that sells. Im an instructor so i always have other kits i can use and if things are better off for us in the near future i can just buy the kite again but right now with having a few weeks off work over chrissie my direct debit system that i use charging the wrong person for 4 months and then taking the money out of my account and my house mate being about 2 weeks late with his rent and bills im basically skint and need the cash like right now and i desperatly need savings so this type of thing doesnt happen again! like i said time to grow up and i dont think what she is asking is unreasonable and like i said family first!
bingles
bingles
WA
363 posts
WA, 363 posts
20 Jan 2010 2:11pm
Ill give you a kite, i dont use it anymore - if you were to insist on a carton of beer for it i would happily oblige
Jeff2231
Jeff2231
NSW
416 posts
NSW, 416 posts
20 Jan 2010 5:41pm
I don't think you've thought this throught too well, but shortly you'll run out of things to sell when you start having to pay off your mortgage.
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
20 Jan 2010 3:33pm
Reverse the picture, would she do the same thing if you asked her to sell her belongings for cash flow?

If yes, go for it and all the best for your new responsible life.

If no, it won't make any difference appart from making you more bitter by the time you split up.

Hope you make the right decision
suface2air
suface2air
QLD
701 posts
QLD, 701 posts
20 Jan 2010 5:41pm
Hey mate been there with different sport . It didnt go too well sold all gear and sat at home and felt like crap inside . Dont sell it all keep one dont use it for a while i will bet come 4 to 5 weeks you will get it out . EVERYONE needs and out let some thing anything too get your mind straight again even the wife needs an outlet seriously . Take a break do lots for her and ask for some time too go kiting .

happy home, happy days beleive me
Morg
Morg
QLD
129 posts
QLD, 129 posts
20 Jan 2010 9:57pm
I don't know about the rest of you blokes but I've saved money since starting to kite. yeah 2k a year for a kite may seem like a lot to some chicks but it's the 10's of thousands a year i'm not spending on **** to keep me occupied that makes it seem like a good investment. Before kiting it was all about going out, getting loose, gambling and lighting strippers cigars with 100 dollar notes etc. But now it's just early nights so I'm not to rooted for a kite the next day. (i miss the strippers the most but it's worth it).
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
20 Jan 2010 11:54pm
OK this might be helpful

I have been happily married almost 20 years .We've had plenty of ups and downs .We have 3 teenage girls who are a handful (they mean everything to us ). We encourage and support each other to follow our dreams and passions .We have individual lives and support each other and come together on some but not all interests .My partner has NEVER given me any ultimatums and I know how far I can push and pursue my own individual pursuits that make me part of the person that I am .(My partner did 6 years of night study in a degree that she didn't pursue professionally while I fed and looked after and changed the ****ty nappies of the grommets ,I bear no Ill will {tho I do occasionally raise it in a heated discussion} I ,nor she is a thumbprint. My parents have a similar story until my dad died from cancer . I have learn't how to earn and spend Brownie points

Over to you
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
21 Jan 2010 8:02am
definatley ditch the R6 widowmaker, and the old 9m. keeping 1 kite is not extravagent. Get a part time night job for 6 months and keep the kite. do a few cash labouring jobs on the weekend. give up piss for 6 months. whatever. keep the kite. you'll only resent it or have to buy another one later
rloemker
rloemker
NSW
149 posts
NSW, 149 posts
21 Jan 2010 10:10am
Morg said...

, getting loose, gambling and lighting strippers cigars with 100 dollar notes etc.



What are you...American?
Fooosh
Fooosh
WA
563 posts
WA, 563 posts
21 Jan 2010 9:01am
^ LOL!

Plastic Ozzie bills don't burn too good!!!

lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
21 Jan 2010 12:38pm
Morg said...

I don't know about the rest of you blokes but I've saved money since starting to kite. yeah 2k a year for a kite may seem like a lot to some chicks but it's the 10's of thousands a year i'm not spending on **** to keep me occupied that makes it seem like a good investment. Before kiting it was all about going out, getting loose, gambling and lighting strippers cigars with 100 dollar notes etc. But now it's just early nights so I'm not to rooted for a kite the next day. (i miss the strippers the most but it's worth it).


Pffft, what a lightweight - my idea of decadence is surrounding myself with Venezuelan Miss World wannabes whilst having midgets serve me up Cocaine from solid gold plates mounted on their heads.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
21 Jan 2010 3:00pm
lostinlondon said...

Morg said...

I don't know about the rest of you blokes but I've saved money since starting to kite. yeah 2k a year for a kite may seem like a lot to some chicks but it's the 10's of thousands a year i'm not spending on **** to keep me occupied that makes it seem like a good investment. Before kiting it was all about going out, getting loose, gambling and lighting strippers cigars with 100 dollar notes etc. But now it's just early nights so I'm not to rooted for a kite the next day. (i miss the strippers the most but it's worth it).


Pffft, what a lightweight - my idea of decadence is surrounding myself with Venezuelan Miss World wannabes whilst having midgets serve me up Cocaine from solid gold plates mounted on their heads.


Even better, with midget lesbians on stripper poles!

djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
21 Jan 2010 3:37pm
Some excellent advice and perspectives above. This forum does inspire me now and then.

I have to say I think keeping one kite and board is not extravagant. It will provide an important outlet, as well as having symbolic value as an indicator of your retained individuality, sitting alongside the symbols of the sacrifices that you make for the relationship.

Also, seeing a skilled counsellor (and how to find a really good one is itself a journey) to talk through the new arrangements would likely be a very worthwhile move.

Are you familiar with Maslow's hierarchy of needs? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

Whilst it has had its critics, my experience as a people-helper is that it can be a useful tool in thinking about priorities. Taking care of the basic stuff first enables the higher pleasures to be enjoyed more fully, rather than with guilt. In some ways this is common sense, but for myself and some clients it is very useful to map the ways in which we meet our basic needs and those of the people close to us. Is anything missing, either for you and your partner individually, or for the two of you as a unit? Is the distribution of need-meeting equitable? Is it sustainable? Are there needs you haven't acknowledged or addressed so far?

Balance, balance, balance. Keep it dynamic, keep it in process. Check in with yourselves and each other regularly. Have time for closeness, and time for space. Stay present to what's happening in the moment, and new understandings and possibilities are sure to emerge.
Tom83
Tom83
SA
142 posts
SA, 142 posts
21 Jan 2010 6:02pm
^^^^^^what he said
jordy
jordy
SA
451 posts
SA, 451 posts
21 Jan 2010 10:23pm


Even better, with midget lesbians on stripper poles!




We have those here in SA. They do a double act!!

I could tell a good story about Bridget the Midget and Tiny Tina but I don't think it would be appropriate for this forum!!!

Morg
Morg
QLD
129 posts
QLD, 129 posts
22 Jan 2010 8:17am
I was trying not to be to crass. I could have brought up the thailand trips and donkey shows. [}:)]
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
WA, 384 posts
23 Jan 2010 10:05am
well u guys r right decided to keep the vegas still trying to sell everything else now all i need is some actual time im not working or spending time with her and the baby to go for a ride :)
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
23 Jan 2010 2:01pm
"buy a house", now seriously I think once or twice in my life I've laughed out loud, this was probably the 3rd time.
LOL

Selling all your gear won't even pay for the property inspection.

I had a '99 R6, man that engine revved... I now ride a BMW K1300R and rent a unit.

Having been with the same woman for the past 11 years I can honestly say, kiting is better.

At least with kiting you can check the weather; with women u never know what u gona get, but it's usually gusty.
Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
368 posts
368 posts
23 Jan 2010 4:35pm
FlySurfer said...



At least with kiting you can check the weather; with women u never know what u gona get, but it's usually gusty.


Ha ha hah haha ahaha ahhha ha
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hah ha ha
WallZie
WallZie
WA
87 posts
WA, 87 posts
23 Jan 2010 11:59pm
lostinlondon said...

Morg said...

Before kiting it was all about going out, getting loose, gambling and lighting strippers cigars with 100 dollar notes etc. But now it's just early nights so I'm not to rooted for a kite the next day. (i miss the strippers the most but it's worth it).


Pffft, what a lightweight - my idea of decadence is surrounding myself with Venezuelan Miss World wannabes whilst having midgets serve me up Cocaine from solid gold plates mounted on their heads.


Sounds Like The Crazyhorse in Vegus....

Or NYNY Without the midgets......
Coral Sea
Coral Sea
QLD
476 posts
QLD, 476 posts
24 Jan 2010 8:03am
...at last count I had 4 kids (between 13 and 1yo)....

...and 5 kites (between 12m and 4m)....

so my scientific conclusion is always have at least one more kite than you have children.

and remember......you always gotta pay to play.....
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