is norah head as windy as it says it is ?

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Mr float

NSW

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Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

12 Sep 2008 8:44am

I've noticed obver the years that Norah head is consistently winyer than nobby by about 5 kts in a NE seabreeze .i was wondering why?
is it that the wind meter is at the top of the head and much windier than at water level or is it that that area really gets great seabreezes.For example was yeterday really crankin down there?

Robbo2099

753 posts

Robbo2099

WA, 753 posts

12 Sep 2008 11:56am

I believe the wind meter is located on the Norah Head lighthouse, which is why it always looks windy there. FWIW, I've driven there numerous times and sat on the beach all day when the weather station was showing 15-20 knots and it was 8-12 knots on the beach.

stabber

NSW

1114 posts

stabber

NSW, 1114 posts

12 Sep 2008 2:02pm

same as today..it shows 15NE...

What is true tho is ...that when nora goes NE (on a typical summers day) nobby's and Stocko are about 60 -75 minutes behind.

Mr float

NSW

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Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

12 Sep 2008 2:41pm

Robbo2099 said...

I believe the wind meter is located on the Norah Head lighthouse, which is why it always looks windy there. FWIW, I've driven there numerous times and sat on the beach all day when the weather station was showing 15-20 knots and it was 8-12 knots on the beach.

Good to know
Maybe dust off the hang glider then

Surfrod66

NSW

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Surfrod66

NSW, 665 posts

12 Sep 2008 6:45pm

Hi I have windsurfed and now kite surfed for the last 15 years using the norah head readings if you want to go out at nth entrance beach in a NE subtract about 3-6 knots and in a southerly at the local spot subtract 8-10 knts from the reading hope this helps.Rod

Juz M

NSW

156 posts

Juz M

NSW, 156 posts

12 Sep 2008 6:59pm

Its gotta be windier than bloody nobbys at the moment, how the hell can everywhere along NSW coast be almost green arrows, yet nobbys is still struggling to stay in yellows!

Mr float

NSW

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Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

12 Sep 2008 11:04pm

Juz M said...

Its gotta be windier than bloody nobbys at the moment, how the hell can everywhere along NSW coast be almost green arrows, yet nobbys is still struggling to stay in yellows!

its because of the frikkin valley wind .I was speaking to a mate today and we agreed that we lose at least half of the potential NE winds due to the valley westerly pushing out .Its a bloody disgrace .its those damn coal mines up the valley .

Mr float

NSW

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Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

12 Sep 2008 11:08pm

I'd say that unless by some miracle the NE gets in at Nobby tomorrow will be pus at nobbys and awesome at norah .So whos coming to norah?

T.O.D

57 posts

T.O.D

WA, 57 posts

13 Sep 2008 1:51am

Hey Lach, Terry here ,sorry won,t be able to make it to norah, cause i,m at pacasmayo in peru and its 11.30am and the winds about 20nts with a 4ft lefthander running for as long as i can see down the point. Sorry to rub it in, just had to do it. Say hi to gordo and the boys and i,ll see you in a month.

Mr float

NSW

3452 posts

Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

13 Sep 2008 8:46am

T.O.D said...

Hey Lach, Terry here ,sorry won,t be able to make it to norah, cause i,m at pacasmayo in peru and its 11.30am and the winds about 20nts with a 4ft lefthander running for as long as i can see down the point. Sorry to rub it in, just had to do it. Say hi to gordo and the boys and i,ll see you in a month.

tis unfair,and you get it all expenses paid by golden breed too!!

glad your gettin it

Hey did get a nice session at nobs on thurs .Just 2 out ,nice pumpin 4-6 ft left handers SE swell NE wind so its not all bad ,if its on today thats 3 days in a row .Haven't had that since the end of summer 06. light northerly now ,it is blowin hard NW at murrirundi gap tho and will probably get here around 11 am and keep the seabreeze out .You never know tho

norah will be smokin ne all day from 11 i'd say

MagicMike

210 posts

MagicMike

WA, 210 posts

13 Sep 2008 9:26am

nobbys just turned ENE, i know its reeaally early but i hope its a good sign that we could get even a little seabreeze, considering our luck as of late it won't come through but then agen it is pretty hot today

stabber

NSW

1114 posts

stabber

NSW, 1114 posts

13 Sep 2008 11:36am

One Mile normally does better on an Easterly than nobbies....not telling ya why tho.

Reason is ..I don't know.

Mr float

NSW

3452 posts

Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

13 Sep 2008 6:35pm

well went down to budgewoi and it was definitely better than nobbys and heaps more wind and better waves .Only one guy out and 30 min drive from my place (which by the time I park and wander up past the no kiting sign is the same to nobbys) .I noticed nobbys was good for about an hour and that it was crowded as usual and the "NO FRIKKEN KITING " sign was even further up the beach than usual .
well i know where i'll be going when there is a strong westerly in the valley and when they ban kiting at nobbys

hangtime

NSW

397 posts

hangtime

NSW, 397 posts

13 Sep 2008 8:38pm

Went to Norah head today to do a down winder We were there for a couple of hours and ended up driving away instead of kiting away . When i checked the Seabreeze graphs tonight to see what the wind strength was it said over 20 knots for the period that we were there!! No way !!! It wasnt even kiteable. so your'e on the money Lach

Mr float

NSW

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Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

13 Sep 2008 11:25pm

hangtime said...

Went to Norah head today to do a down winder We were there for a couple of hours and ended up driving away instead of kiting away . When i checked the Seabreeze graphs tonight to see what the wind strength was it said over 20 knots for the period that we were there!! No way !!! It wasnt even kiteable. so your'e on the money Lach

were you guys south or north of Norah ?

hangtime

NSW

397 posts

hangtime

NSW, 397 posts

14 Sep 2008 8:25am

5oo metres from the lighthouse (south)

Mr float

NSW

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Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

14 Sep 2008 9:59am

hangtime said...

5oo metres from the lighthouse (south)

Interesting .the wind had alot of north in it .I was up a bit futher north of the surf club at budgewoi and it was well in and had alot of cross shore there .Maybe next time drive up a bit and check it out .

boardbumps

NSW

698 posts

boardbumps

NSW, 698 posts

14 Sep 2008 10:03am

Google earth and check the beach angle, it's similar to Tacking Point at Port Mac, slightly cross off and gusty with too much headland at the same time the north shore can be pumping with wind.

Rod

boardbumps

NSW

698 posts

boardbumps

NSW, 698 posts

14 Sep 2008 10:03am

Touched 30kts here sat.

rod

Mr float

NSW

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Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

14 Sep 2008 1:01pm

boardbumps said...

Google earth and check the beach angle, it's similar to Tacking Point at Port Mac, slightly cross off and gusty with too much headland at the same time the north shore can be pumping with wind.

Rod

yep dats right .

Nerk

NSW

108 posts

Nerk

NSW, 108 posts

14 Sep 2008 1:02pm

Lachlan, this was taken just to the north of the Lakes Beach Surf Club at Norah Head yesterday around 3:00pm. (13Sep). 9 metre kite. I think when the westerly is quite strong, the seabreeze starts a fair way off shore, slowly moves inshore, then gives up. The Norah Head lighthouse just sticks out a bit from the normal coastline compared to Nobbys.

peter_w

NSW

68 posts

peter_w

NSW, 68 posts

14 Sep 2008 4:21pm

It was also kite-able 10 minutes further south as well :-(

just got too greedy and thought we might score something better...

hangtime

NSW

397 posts

hangtime

NSW, 397 posts

15 Sep 2008 11:27am

Its called Convergance , where two different air masses meet, the forces are sent straight upwards and hang and parra glider pilots love it! you used to fly hanggliders didnt you Lach? The convergance line was parked right on the beachline.

Mr float

NSW

3452 posts

Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

15 Sep 2008 4:29pm

Nerk said...

Lachlan, this was taken just to the north of the Lakes Beach Surf Club at Norah Head yesterday around 3:00pm. (13Sep). 9 metre kite. I think when the westerly is quite strong, the seabreeze starts a fair way off shore, slowly moves inshore, then gives up. The Norah Head lighthouse just sticks out a bit from the normal coastline compared to Nobbys.

aha so dat vas you .I was getting very excited and started getting my gear out and discovered that I had no harness

never mind .I am very happy at what I discovered

Mr float

NSW

3452 posts

Mr float

NSW, 3452 posts

15 Sep 2008 4:33pm

hangtime said...

Its called Convergance , where two different air masses meet, the forces are sent straight upwards and hang and parra glider pilots love it! you used to fly hanggliders didnt you Lach? The convergance line was parked right on the beachline.

hangtime

NSW

397 posts

hangtime

NSW, 397 posts

16 Sep 2008 8:39am

Mr float said...

hang gliders .Yep same frustration with hang gliding NE at dudley too ,kinda fun tho watching the seagulls playing in the convergence .
Again my point about the hunter coastline with seabreezes is that the westerly doesn't allow the NE in on many ocassions whereas the lakes beach surf club and norah head area isn't effected anywhere near the same degree .Ever noticed in winter when there is no seabreeze effect that Nobbys is nukin 30-40 squids is 15 -25/30 and norah is about 10-15

I've always put that down to the terrain behind the lighthouse - and the lake smoothing out the wind flow with a different temperature???.
There is definately an effect by the Valley , Tony barton the local hangie instructor calls it Hunter valley suck! it works in reverse in a south easter,

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