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magilla
magilla
VIC
60 posts
VIC, 60 posts
23 Aug 2010 12:51pm
I will at least give you cred waxman for not hideing behind a fake profile but do not agree with some of your comments. I was at the wakestyle nationals last year and had a ball even though I am not a competition rider. George really did do a good job under a lot of adverse pressure. Anyone who tries to host and hold events like this seem to get boof heads like yourself criticising. Reading between the lines with peoples posts on this thread is starting to concern me. I predicted it two years ago and hoped I would be wrong but unfortunately kiteing seems to be going the way of surfing with beginners being frowned upon and brand snobbs thinking they are better than others. I dont know how many can remember the surf wars through the 80's. It wasnt pleasent and did not do the sport any good at all. Yes there should be a elemant of localism but please dont let kiteing head down this track. I hated pulling teeth out of my knuckles (not a joke). Lets prove me wrong and keep kilteing social and friendly. We have enough wolves stalking our sport like marine safety and some councils. Save your well directed rage for the real fights.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
23 Aug 2010 4:46pm
Beginners are more frowned upon because beaches are getting more crowded and instead of 1 or 2 beginner incidents a year we now have 20 which is increasing the risk of banning. Its also not like there aren't qualified schools to go to for help.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Altona-4-kites-in-4-days-when-will-they-learn/?SearchTerms=altona

In one week last year, I counted 4 incidents in 4 days at Altona, 2 of which resulted in damaged powerlines and resulted in a call out of the electricity guys to fix them. You can say what you want about giving beginners a break, but if that happens again, I'm willing to bet our chances of getting banned at Altona are pretty high. All of the incidents I saw could have been avoided quite easily, riders launching unhooked with no leash attached, riders riding without leashes etc. So please excuse me and/or other riders if we don't have time for beginners who couldn't be bothered to follow basic safety guidelines or who don't listen to you when you say "don't launch mate, the wind's too strong for you" because we can't afford to take chances with our beaches.

The big difference with surfing is that very few surfers endanger bystanders or cut the power to an area when they mess up, kiters do.

I don't have time for brand snobs, that is one area I agree with you on.
colinwill78
colinwill78
VIC
1395 posts
VIC, 1395 posts
23 Aug 2010 5:10pm
I get my lakes all to my self. As long as the ski boats piss off when it's windy. Which they usually do.
No beginner would ever get started here amongst the gum trees
but i had better get that KBV membership done soon.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
23 Aug 2010 4:07pm
Right on magilla.
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
23 Aug 2010 6:20pm
magilla said...

I will at least give you cred waxman for not hideing behind a fake profile but do not agree with some of your comments. I was at the wakestyle nationals last year and had a ball even though I am not a competition rider. George really did do a good job under a lot of adverse pressure. Anyone who tries to host and hold events like this seem to get boof heads like yourself criticising. Reading between the lines with peoples posts on this thread is starting to concern me. I predicted it two years ago and hoped I would be wrong but unfortunately kiteing seems to be going the way of surfing with beginners being frowned upon and brand snobbs thinking they are better than others. I dont know how many can remember the surf wars through the 80's. It wasnt pleasent and did not do the sport any good at all. Yes there should be a elemant of localism but please dont let kiteing head down this track. I hated pulling teeth out of my knuckles (not a joke). Lets prove me wrong and keep kilteing social and friendly. We have enough wolves stalking our sport like marine safety and some councils. Save your well directed rage for the real fights.


All good points, but from my point of view no matter weather it be a good or bad comment people should just take it as feedback and not as a attack. With some not so good feedback organisers of the event are going to make it even better. Even the best events can be made better year to year, no matter how you run a event you are never going to please everyone, everyones experience at the same event may vary, so i cant see how you can shoot downs some ones view when there experience may have differed from yours.

I do think the next event will be bigger and better, and i think the organisers will put in a huge effort to make it a success.


As far as a brand war, kiters just need to learn to enjoy it and stop being pussys. If you want to see what i mean look at Australia's biggest brand war - holden v's ford. You guys should head up to Bathurst and check out the fun people can have with it. Not to many pussys there.

TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
23 Aug 2010 4:50pm
party pooper
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
23 Aug 2010 5:21pm
grow a pair and stop moaning..........
colinwill78
colinwill78
VIC
1395 posts
VIC, 1395 posts
23 Aug 2010 10:18pm
I don't like the practice of brand bashing, but general brand acceptance and tolerance would be boring as bat **** at bathurst.
Sadly, Bathurst is now all about the brands, a bit about their drivers, and very stuff about the driving skills on display.
Do we want kite brand bashing to dominate kite events? Or would the focus on the kiters and their skills be more desirable?
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