kite lessons, which one?

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freekstyle
freekstyle
22 posts
22 posts
18 Dec 2007 12:17am
just seein if anyone can help us out in choosing the right school to do lessons with, been looking around at heaps, is there any difference or are the IKO instructors pretty much all the same?
is it better doin the full day packages or a couple of hours over a few days?
i live in the south perth area so anywhere around perth would be good
cheers for the help!
Mr E
Mr E
34 posts
34 posts
18 Dec 2007 4:21am
sos has kiting lesson at Melville beach (river)
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
702 posts
VIC, 702 posts
18 Dec 2007 11:00am
definitelly split into multiple separete sessions. It will give you time to digest bits that you learn and prepare any questions.

Some offer multiple lesson packages with option of using their equipment for practicing in between the lessons.

Also do your homework before engaging with any instructors - some of them can be a bit dodgy... or try to sell you old dodgy kites...
shmoo
shmoo
WA
40 posts
WA, 40 posts
18 Dec 2007 10:34am
I did a lesson with Darren up at AKS at Pinnaroo Pt. There are cheaper lessons than AKS, but you get what you pay for. A friend went to a cheaper school and they did not even let him get in the water! The AKS guys will have you doing powered body drags within two hours providing you are getting the feel of the kite. Some 10 sessions after the lesson I am going up-wind no worries, small grab-airs, and riding switch... Best $220 I've spent.
NSW, 4382 posts
18 Dec 2007 12:54pm
Ditto, call Darren 0407012220
marno
marno
WA
218 posts
WA, 218 posts
18 Dec 2007 11:01am
I agree, call Darren. They've got the helmets with the radio communication and good gear etc etc, totally worth it.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
18 Dec 2007 11:13am
Hi Matt and everyone else,

Thanks for the kudos! We are a little further up north than you, but would love to help you out.

Around your way also is Ian Young who teaches on Flysurfers on the river, or Jason of West Oz kiteboarding in Safety Bay. Both guys are IKO Level 2 and run a good operation.

Our lesson format is like this kiteboardingschool.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=84&Itemid=61

Call us if you have any questions we can help you with. We have bookings available almost immediately.

Good winds,

SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
18 Dec 2007 12:44pm
1/. Make sure whoever you go with is IKO qualified. It is the only qualification structure in Australia at present. Ask if you'll get an IKO Card after the lesson and if they give any excuse in not giving you a card, it probably mean they are not qualified, and teaching you without insurance. IKO certification cards are issued according to the students level of achievement. The cards are recognized worldwide and give you discounts in insurance, retailers, it also allow you to hire gear at any IKO centers around the world. Full details at www.ikointl.com.

2/. At the time of booking your lesson, get the instructor's name, goto the IKO website www.ikointl.com and see if their name is listed under the instructors page. If they are not, it simply mean they are not a qualified instructor and teaching without qualifications nor insurance. If it is an IKO School even better cause the school is equipped with all the neccessary gear including rescue boat and first aid stations as well as having level 2 instructors in charge.

3/. At the lesson, ask to see their instructor's certificate as well as insurance certificate. The instructor should show you these documents during introduction anyway. If they dont have insurance, that means if anything happens, you are fully liable for any damages. If the instructor was at fault, you can sue his pants off, but I think he would be gone before you can catch him. Imagine what if you drop the kite knock someone off or you get dragged and damage some property as a result. You will have a BIG bill to pay off. Is it really worth saving such a small amount of money?

Unfortunately there are a number of shops I know that teach with non-qualified instructors. So even if it is a lesson arranged by a shop, still go through the check list, because the shop would not have insurance to teach.

Darren is the best in WA, very professional. My top recommendation too. Good luck and happy kiting!


BIRDWATCHER
BIRDWATCHER
WA
4 posts
WA, 4 posts
18 Dec 2007 1:47pm
Apart from the lessons you should apply for a waksa membership...
Onedge
Onedge
QLD
39 posts
QLD, 39 posts
20 Dec 2007 12:56pm
Great advice,
Most importantly ask if the IKO Centre has government permits to operate a commercial kitesurf business? Ask if its with a council or maritime safety? Find out which one and contact that government body to check the permit.
IKO does not check centres local government permits.
This is just as important as all the other stuff as if they don't it won't matter what centre certification, insurance they claim they have it will be void if they are operating outside a permit commercial kitesurf area.
I've heard WA is the very prefessional when it comes to operating commercial kitesurfing lessons. Thanks to the hard work of the members of WAKSA. They have over th years put alot of effort into making sure the sport is able to progress in a safe and responsible manner. So my advice if your in WA is to contact them and ask them who to use. They know whos backyard & whos doing it by the book.

padi said...

1/. Make sure whoever you go with is IKO qualified. It is the only qualification structure in Australia at present. Ask if you'll get an IKO Card after the lesson and if they give any excuse in not giving you a card, it probably mean they are not qualified, and teaching you without insurance. IKO certification cards are issued according to the students level of achievement. The cards are recognized worldwide and give you discounts in insurance, retailers, it also allow you to hire gear at any IKO centers around the world. Full details at www.ikointl.com.

2/. At the time of booking your lesson, get the instructor's name, goto the IKO website www.ikointl.com and see if their name is listed under the instructors page. If they are not, it simply mean they are not a qualified instructor and teaching without qualifications nor insurance. If it is an IKO School even better cause the school is equipped with all the neccessary gear including rescue boat and first aid stations as well as having level 2 instructors in charge.

3/. At the lesson, ask to see their instructor's certificate as well as insurance certificate. The instructor should show you these documents during introduction anyway. If they dont have insurance, that means if anything happens, you are fully liable for any damages. If the instructor was at fault, you can sue his pants off, but I think he would be gone before you can catch him. Imagine what if you drop the kite knock someone off or you get dragged and damage some property as a result. You will have a BIG bill to pay off. Is it really worth saving such a small amount of money?

Unfortunately there are a number of shops I know that teach with non-qualified instructors. So even if it is a lesson arranged by a shop, still go through the check list, because the shop would not have insurance to teach.

Darren is the best in WA, very professional. My top recommendation too. Good luck and happy kiting!





muzza333
muzza333
7 posts
7 posts
21 Dec 2007 9:25pm
I had a lesson with Chris Keyes in Safety Bay and had a fantastic lesson, he seemed amazingly safety conscious and reckons that safety bay is the best place he has taught and that seems to be all he has done for the last 5 or so years. Says he was IKO level 2 has all the insurance and council permits, he even had a big room in the Yacht Club with all the latest gear and gave me an IKO card, Chris's number is 0420 399 577 if you want to give him a try.
general_dude
general_dude
WA
150 posts
WA, 150 posts
22 Dec 2007 11:29pm
Hi guys,

I did 2x 2hr lessons with the guys from AKS.
Would highly recommend.
The first lesson they actually paired me up with another learner but gave us 3hrs together instead of 2hrs on your own. I was a bit bummed by this idea at first but now reckon it was a good deal.
You get to have a rest & you can see the other guy making mistakes & learn from them.

Also - pay attention to the self rescue bit. I used on my second day out on my own! It was really good not feeling panicked - I just did what I was taught, sat on the kite & sailed in. All good - except for the long walk home :(

kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
22 Dec 2007 11:51pm
try get free lessons with a kite purchase from a shop... they all do something and learning on a bandit wont help much if you go and buy a fuel
also you might not get more for your money just by spending more, expensive doesn't mean good [talking about kite choice here]
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