kite surfer killed in Cape Hatteras, NorthCarolina

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puffin
puffin
235 posts
235 posts
14 Apr 2009 3:41am
This more or less happened right in front of some of my friends. Word is a cold front came in, catching some by surprise and raising the winds from 10-15 to 30-40

www.peconicpuffin.com/the_peconic_puffin/2009/04/a-kiter-was-killed-on-the-water-in-cape-hatteras.html

FYI
braaad
braaad
QLD
82 posts
QLD, 82 posts
14 Apr 2009 7:43am

Windsurfers and kiters were on the water off of Avon with big lightwind gear. A cold front blasted through around 5pm, with gusts up to 40mph, flattening any number of sailors and kiters. Shortly after two apparently inexperienced kiters got worked just off of Island Creek, a third kiter launched, and was seen intentionally getting massive air...30 foot jumps at least. He appeared to be quite capable. Then the kiter got into trouble during a high jump, hit the water hard, and was dragged several hundred yards downwind until his kite grounded on one of the islands.


*EDIT* Sorry, got my facts mixed up...
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
14 Apr 2009 6:22am
Thats sad for families concerned...

As for the rest - its a good lesson for all you tryhard instructors or friends who dont ram down everyones throats, the mega importants of primary & secondary safety releases.

No one has EVER been hurt after releasing completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lessons to be Learned
braaad
braaad
QLD
82 posts
QLD, 82 posts
14 Apr 2009 9:01am
SaveTheWhales said...

Thats sad for families concerned...

As for the rest - its a good lesson for all you tryhard instructors or friends who dont ram down everyones throats, the mega importants of primary & secondary safety releases.

No one has EVER been hurt after releasing completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lessons to be Learned



*EDIT* Sorry, got my facts mixed up...
Greenfinger
Greenfinger
WA
239 posts
WA, 239 posts
14 Apr 2009 8:20am
Despite all this chaos and the obvious 30-40 mph wind, we saw another more 'experienced looking' kiter from a different house launch on a small kite. He seemed to be in control, and started launching into giant jumps.

Did you read the eyewitness report at the bottom of the page, he was not on a oversize kite.
awetdog
awetdog
NSW
59 posts
NSW, 59 posts
14 Apr 2009 10:34am
perhaps he needed one of those family safe kites from a site sponsor.


people take risks in all walks of life. he seemed to 'have an idea' of what he was doing. its just avoiding sensationalists from beating it up. we all know cars kill in even experienced hands if the person at the controls is pushing it. this guy pushed it. didnt exercise his safety before it was to late. paid the price. i only feel sorry for his family and friends
thorn
thorn
WA
172 posts
WA, 172 posts
14 Apr 2009 8:57am
Sounds like he was knocked out as soon as he hit the water, obviously didn't expect such a rough landing and had no time to pull a safety. Very sad for his family.
Kadkhah
Kadkhah
WA
381 posts
WA, 381 posts
14 Apr 2009 12:02pm
thorn said...

Sounds like he was knocked out as soon as he hit the water...


Couple of months ago one of the famous instructors in Perth got one of his ribs broken on a hard crash to the water.
It happened to me 2 or 3 times that I hit the water so hard that I couldn't breath for ~5 seconds.
Now I'm wearing a PFD and I don't care if I look like a geek.

Let's hope that we don't lose any of our friends like this anymore.

Good Winds
Alex
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
14 Apr 2009 12:45pm

Windsurfers and kiters were on the water off of Avon with big lightwind gear. A cold front blasted through around 5pm, with gusts up to 40mph, flattening any number of sailors and kiters. Shortly after two apparently inexperienced kiters got worked just off of Island Creek, a third kiter launched, and was seen intentionally getting massive air...30 foot jumps at least. He appeared to be quite capable. Then the kiter got into trouble during a high jump, hit the water hard, and was dragged several hundred yards downwind until his kite grounded on one of the islands.


All 2nd hand info but nothing necessarily reckless enough here to be criticising the victim for.
- 40mph = pretty ordinary Perth seabreeze strength.
- victim launched after the wind change = most probably on a reasonable kite size.
- intentionally getting massive air = not concerned & couldnt have been too over-powered.
- 30ft jumps at least = we all do that any day we are going for it.
- appeared to be quite capable = not out of control or struggling with the conditions.
- got into trouble during a high jump = nothing unusual. It can happen to the best of us - anytime.
- hit the water hard = definitely nothing unusual once youve stuffed it up.

Sounds more to me like he was probably just 'dead' unlucky. One more hard water impact which (this time) caused way greater than the usual consequences.
Tough outcome to someone who may well have been following all the rules. Dont be too quick to criticise. QR is a non-issue if you are unconscious.

Sad loss for all kiters who take the risk every session.
Condolences to those left behind.
TheChad
TheChad
QLD
142 posts
QLD, 142 posts
14 Apr 2009 2:52pm
puppetonastring said...



All 2nd hand info but nothing necessarily reckless enough here to be criticising the victim for.
- 40mph = pretty ordinary Perth seabreeze strength.
- victim launched after the wind change = most probably on a reasonable kite size.
- intentionally getting massive air = not concerned & couldnt have been too over-powered.
- 30ft jumps at least = we all do that any day we are going for it.
- appeared to be quite capable = not out of control or struggling with the conditions.
- got into trouble during a high jump = nothing unusual. It can happen to the best of us - anytime.
- hit the water hard = definitely nothing unusual once youve stuffed it up.

Sounds more to me like he was probably just 'dead' unlucky. One more hard water impact which (this time) caused way greater than the usual consequences.
Tough outcome to someone who may well have been following all the rules. Dont be too quick to criticise. QR is a non-issue if you are unconscious.

Sad loss for all kiters who take the risk every session.
Condolences to those left behind.


I agree totaly.

And anyone that thinks your QR is some magic life saving device is naive.
Hitting water at an unlucky angle from a substantial height can be very serious
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
14 Apr 2009 7:02pm
Ok - this is for the obvious idiots who arent able to comprehend whats written in front of them with a broad open mind

The deceased was either knocked unconsious or Winded to the point of panic combined with being dragged...

Everyone whos ever tried any boosting (high) or going for tricks has probably come close to either at some stage...
its the Dark part of what we do but accept it !!!

For all the OTHERS getting dragged etc etc etc their the ones who pulling the Pin is aimed at !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly - unbelieveable that i have to write this crap

GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
15 Apr 2009 10:36am
SaveTheWhales said...

Ok - this is for the obvious idiots who arent able to comprehend whats written in front of them with a broad open mind


Amen - because all news reports are factual and reliable... not

Take what is written in the news article with a grain (or twelve) of salt
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
15 Apr 2009 8:28pm
puppetonastring said...


Windsurfers and kiters were on the water off of Avon with big lightwind gear. A cold front blasted through around 5pm, with gusts up to 40mph, flattening any number of sailors and kiters. Shortly after two apparently inexperienced kiters got worked just off of Island Creek, a third kiter launched, and was seen intentionally getting massive air...30 foot jumps at least. He appeared to be quite capable. Then the kiter got into trouble during a high jump, hit the water hard, and was dragged several hundred yards downwind until his kite grounded on one of the islands.


All 2nd hand info but nothing necessarily reckless enough here to be criticising the victim for.
- 40mph = pretty ordinary Perth seabreeze strength.
- victim launched after the wind change = most probably on a reasonable kite size.
- intentionally getting massive air = not concerned & couldnt have been too over-powered.
- 30ft jumps at least = we all do that any day we are going for it.
- appeared to be quite capable = not out of control or struggling with the conditions.
- got into trouble during a high jump = nothing unusual. It can happen to the best of us - anytime.
- hit the water hard = definitely nothing unusual once youve stuffed it up.

Sounds more to me like he was probably just 'dead' unlucky. One more hard water impact which (this time) caused way greater than the usual consequences.
Tough outcome to someone who may well have been following all the rules. Dont be too quick to criticise. QR is a non-issue if you are unconscious.

Sad loss for all kiters who take the risk every session.
Condolences to those left behind.


Such a great post puppet... legend mate.

Condolences to the family .
fatwa
fatwa
TAS
107 posts
TAS, 107 posts
15 Apr 2009 8:52pm
puppetonastring said...



- 40mph = pretty ordinary Perth seabreeze strength.



fyi,

40 mph = 34.7 knots = a bit more than a pretty ordinary Perth seabreeze.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
15 Apr 2009 7:05pm
My bad here - point to fatwa.
I worked it out to 28kts Dont ask how
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