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seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

7 Jul 2007 9:07pm

Hi evryone, its really nice to have such a forum...I'm 210 lb and been searching for 5 days straight for a kite...but i never thought it would be so hard with all those kinds and specs....I'm a bit confused by now, and need some expert help not to get the wrong kite.

I'll be flying this kite on the mediteranian with wind speeds ranging 10-40 knots, short waves, west winds most of the time. My budget 200-300$ for kite,bar,and strings cuz i have a board. i have an offer for a caution santa cruz 15m in mint condition at 200$ or am I better off with Cabrinha Element 17m?... please advise.. cant wait to kitefly!!!!!!!

foil,c-shape,bow..etc whitch one

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

7 Jul 2007 11:23pm

hobbs dis ones for you!!!!!

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

7 Jul 2007 9:30pm

but y! not funny..if u can help out plz do..+ im not canadian

Blaster

501 posts

Blaster

WA, 501 posts

7 Jul 2007 10:39pm

Please excuse Greeny, I reckon he's been drinking. Normally very resourceful.(Its was a little bit funny though).

Seriously, everyone will give you a difference of opinion on style. I personally think if that's all your budget is, then maybe look for 05 or 06 bow kite like a best Waroo for example. Now I'm not pimping, I'm just thinking that they are good quality kites in the lower price range.

If your new then this is a fact you should know...The newer the kite the more safety has been engineered into it, regardless of brand. I guess if you talking US$ then chuck another 100 in to make it $400 and go for any 2nd hand 06 bow kite in whatever brand catches your eye. They are all pretty good for what you want.

Also 210 lb is about 95kgs like me so if I wanted a kite to cover the best wind range a 12m would be good depending on the board you are riding. e.g bigger board smaller kite, vice versa. At your weight don't get smaller than 138 IMO.

That's my 2c, hope it helps in some way GL.

Blaster

501 posts

Blaster

WA, 501 posts

7 Jul 2007 10:41pm

Hope your not a troll because I have sore fingers from typing all that!!

Couple of the last posts look like trolls...[}:)]

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

7 Jul 2007 11:24pm

thanks for reply.. do you know a good online store other than ebay? i'm travelling in 3weeks and 3 days ago,suddenly im on the net looking for kites...did u get hooked that fast too.

how childish is that!!

Blaster

501 posts

Blaster

WA, 501 posts

7 Jul 2007 11:45pm

Where are you?? right here an SB can be a good start. I'll PM you link also, Don't want to broadcast this little beauty

INfiniDIE

478 posts

INfiniDIE

WA, 478 posts

8 Jul 2007 12:22am

yeah i agree with blaster, hobbs.

im just starting out too, you can go spend 200 on a cheapy 04 kite and learning will take a little while, more dangerous and more fun.

but ive been told and ive used the new ones, brand new or 2nd hand 07 kites are worlds apart from even the 06 range. massive depowers, suicide leash and safety systems are a lot easier, self rescue and 'spinnaker' systems make things very very safe. and water relaunchs and self launch is SO easy.

I had a lesson with an 9m 07 Airush DNA (which was awesome btw), then i bought a 14m 04 Naish X3, and yeah...i never use it now cause im afraid ill break my neck.

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

8 Jul 2007 1:34am

*kabrinha element 17m '05
*caution 15m
*naish boxer 14m '04
*naish raven 16m '05
*best yarga 13m '05
*naish x3 '04
*naish v4

which one is best... for me? damn im so NOOB!!!

GreenPat

QLD

4107 posts

GreenPat

QLD, 4107 posts

8 Jul 2007 12:29pm

Mate, you think you got problems. I'm thinking of buying my 5th kite now, I still don't know what to get.

The question you have to ask yourself is: What is the distribution of windspeeds where you're going? Does it spend more time from 10 to 20 knots, or does it spend more time from 20-30, or what?

Of that list I've heard the best reviews of the Naish Raven, but it's high aspect so might be a bit difficult for a first kite. I haven't flown one. If the wind was going to be mostly 10-20 knots and I was 210lb I'd buy that one. I'm closer to 240lb, so I have a vague idea about what should work for you. Be wary of advice from people who aren't close to your weight, they often get it wrong.

They often get it right though, so don't disregard them entirely. I might even be a bit far away from 210 to be accurate.

Other than that, if the wind is more like 15-25 knots most of the time I'd be looking down that list at the 13m. I haven't flown one of them either, but I've heard nothing bad about them.

my two bob.

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

8 Jul 2007 4:46pm

Many thanks m8..
i did my reaserch and it leads exactly to what you said

awesome!

cheers

**going for a torch 14m..think its the 1.

Tonewolf

382 posts

Tonewolf

382 posts

8 Jul 2007 7:42pm

sea hobba...consider a venom 13 or 16, the version 2 is good as well and super easy to fly. less time actually in the drink means more fun times!
You can pick up a v 1 for the price your talking but they are all good.

Tone

bite me!

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

9 Jul 2007 9:43pm

Hi again...
i'm trying to pick 1 of those guys....damn this is no easy! for a noob

* 05 rhino 16m
* 05 torch 14m
* 05 raven 16m
* 05 rrd zh 16m
* 06 gaastra vision 14m
* o6 slingshot fuel 13m

which is best of the 16,and 14 ms
which is most durable
which is best wind range wise
which 2 you would put your eyes on?

im around 210lb.

cheers

meerkat

644 posts

meerkat

WA, 644 posts

9 Jul 2007 9:53pm

hmmm....seahobba types a lot like kiteboy? could the infamous chap be using a psuedo? is that you KB?

Blaster

501 posts

Blaster

WA, 501 posts

9 Jul 2007 9:59pm

In that case get a Venom 2 you'll never look back KB...You make a very good point Meercat. There are some similarities in writing style to the infamous Kite boy..

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

9 Jul 2007 10:31pm

this is seaHobba,a 'new NOOB'... srry donno that other guy, but he must be a v smart guy! hehe

i cant find any good deals on Venoms or waroos..
need help whith the ones on my last list cuz i'll be travelling by the end of the month, and i hate to leave without a kite.
-the torch is brand new (i like the design) (for 300 with bar,lines,pump, is that a good offer?)
-im still reaserching like a phd chemist, gaastra vision 14m sounds good,and so does North rhino 16m, but durability wise i have no clue which is better, cuz where im going "EGYPT!!", there will be no way to get pro help for repair.

i'm all ears..and i better settle on 1 soon or ill fly with no kite

'fanatic hobba' cheers

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

10 Jul 2007 12:33am

i'm surprised his 1 post second identity hasn't started yet!

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

10 Jul 2007 10:42am

somebody!!! saysomething plz!!!!!!! need some feedback

Blaster

501 posts

Blaster

WA, 501 posts

10 Jul 2007 2:05pm

Outta that list, get the 13m slingshot 06 kite is the way to go. It will take a little longer to learn on the C kite but you will appreciate it in the long run.

It's a pretty hard thing to call for someone else what kite to buy. just get one to learn then go demo a ****e load in 6 months when you can be trusted and then decide what style you like.

Please reassure us all you've had lessons or intend on having them. That's where you can try different styles, an instructor can also give you valuable info to help with the decision.

Not much more can be said on a forum

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

10 Jul 2007 2:27pm

thank a lot man.. great to have pro feedbacks..

new fanatic kiter out.

cheers

Blaster

501 posts

Blaster

WA, 501 posts

10 Jul 2007 5:11pm

Haha pro, Nah man. Just done enough research to be able to give you some info that might be useful... You'll soon realise this sport is very unique in a way everyone has different likes and opinions on virtually every aspect of the sport.

You sure you not kite boy the 3rd...LOL [}:)] C'mon is that you Brad, surely there can't be 2 people out there that start a sentence with lower case letters

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

10 Jul 2007 11:45pm

hehe im more curious to know that kite guy now...
and plzzz, there can only be 1 Hobba!!!

check out how i got knocked out on 'you know its windy when'.

Hobba style out

seaHobba

12 posts

seaHobba

12 posts

11 Jul 2007 3:13am

1 last question guys,

this is the board i have :

www.wakeworld.com/boardguide/getboard5.asp?ProductID=2297

its a wake board, o'brien rail 137, would it be OK to use with my new kite?

what are the disadvantages to use it with a kite?

cheers

kitebored

NSW

593 posts

kitebored

NSW, 593 posts

11 Jul 2007 2:23pm

If you find a kite that covers 10-40 knts let me know!

bellz

572 posts

bellz

WA, 572 posts

11 Jul 2007 2:01pm

yer looks like it would be alright get some footstraps and if it doesnt have fins get some and you should be alright it might be and idea to buy a kiteboard through you will progress alot faster

Blaster

501 posts

Blaster

WA, 501 posts

11 Jul 2007 2:38pm

Man this is hard to follow...are you wanting a kite quickly to take on holiday with you to learn

Have you got that budget because you are young with limited funds

Are you going to have lessons

they aren't cheap either, but essential.

All the kites your listing are bigish. even at 210lb you will hold them down in up to 20knots, after that it will making your learning extremely difficult. IMO you should be looking around a 12m or 13m. with plenty of depower (06) onwards.

In regards to the board, I've never wake boarded so don't really know but wakeboards are designed to pull behind a boat surfboards are designed to ride waves and so on. Kite boards are for people flying kites and once again will be easier to learn on.

You seriously need to think about once you have learnt, you will get an idea for what you need and it aint going to be cheap. Are you sure your doing the right thing

Personally I had my first lot of gear for 6 months just got rid of it all recently, now I know what I'm looking for and need and will be setup ready for summer on the right gear.

echostorm

QLD

1245 posts

echostorm

QLD, 1245 posts

11 Jul 2007 4:45pm

quote:
Originally posted by Blaster

Man this is hard to follow...are you wanting a kite quickly to take on holiday with you to learn

Have you got that budget because you are young with limited funds

Are you going to have lessons they aren't cheap either, but essential.

All the kites your listing are bigish. even at 210lb you will hold them down in up to 20knots, after that it will making your learning extremely difficult. IMO you should be looking around a 12m or 13m. with plenty of depower (06) onwards.

In regards to the board, I've never wake boarded so don't really know but wakeboards are designed to pull behind a boat surfboards are designed to ride waves and so on. Kite boards are for people flying kites and once again will be easier to learn on.

You seriously need to think about once you have learnt, you will get an idea for what you need and it aint going to be cheap. Are you sure your doing the right thing

Personally I had my first lot of gear for 6 months just got rid of it all recently, now I know what I'm looking for and need and will be setup ready for summer on the right gear.

agreed. 06 technology and lessons essential.

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