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webby7
webby7
QLD
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QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:01am
Hey everyone, i'm chasing advice on how to do what my mate calls a jumping transition where you pull a jump then land travelling in the opposite direction you started in. I seem to be stalling once i land and end up having to loop the kite and scoot down wind or just landing and sinking.
Thanks in advance
webby
BrisKites
BrisKites
QLD
1293 posts
QLD, 1293 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:06am
Travel into your jump with a little less speed. Whatever board speed you have will need to be washed off by having the kite behind you so if your too fast you will pull the kite out of the window.

Start with a small jump and control the radius of your kite so your forward movemant has stopped by the zenith of your jump.

Then dive your kite to give enough momentum in the opposite direction. Much better to loop it though as the kite is almost out of the power at this stage.

Good luck.

Jas
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:23am
one of the most critical points about this move is your body position. once you are in the air turn your head to the direction u want to land and alow your body to open up to that direction. turn your kite a little bit further than normal in the direction you want to land, and ride away. start with smallish jumps
webby7
webby7
QLD
145 posts
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:26am
thanks mate,
when would you loop the kite, towards the end of the jump as i'm landing or mid flight? Once i've mastered this to do the more agressive and high transition jumps do you need to start being able to jump at a lot faster speed. thanks again
bobjaan
bobjaan
WA
314 posts
WA, 314 posts
24 Sep 2009 8:50am
Hey Mate

I find the trick is the timing in when you send the kite again for the redirection. So go into the jump as if it was a normal jump, but as said above try and wash off the speed as your take off.

Then when your kite is on the other side of the window, bring it back as if you where going to land in the direction you where originally travelling, but stop the kit dead at twelve, float down and as you about 4 foot off the water send the kite in opposite direction.

Remember your body position needs to face in the new direction of travel.

I was thinking of starting some video tutorials and giving Noobs on the forum a video posted on which ever trick they wanted to see, request welcome.

Was just gonna film it myself and then post the body action and then the kite movement.

Would anyone be interested in that or would I be wasting my time?
webby7
webby7
QLD
145 posts
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 11:21am
bobjaan said...

Hey Mate



Remember your body position needs to face in the new direction of travel.

I was thinking of starting some video tutorials and giving Noobs on the forum a video posted on which ever trick they wanted to see, request welcome.

Was just gonna film it myself and then post the body action and then the kite movement.

Would anyone be interested in that or would I be wasting my time?


i'd definately watch them mate.

I;m heading out this weekend so i'll try and remember everyones advice and give it a crack
cheers
cheers
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
24 Sep 2009 9:56am
Adding to the above

Just before you jump - carve your board quick & hard directly upwind, this will wash off some speed & load up the kite for a good jump

you wont need to loop the kite if you are aggressive enough in diving the kite.

Fun Options Full commitment both ways

BoB - good idea go for it, if youd like some help send me a pm
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
24 Sep 2009 12:36pm
bobjaan said...


I was thinking of starting some video tutorials and giving Noobs on the forum a video posted on which ever trick they wanted to see, request welcome.

Was just gonna film it myself and then post the body action and then the kite movement.

Would anyone be interested in that or would I be wasting my time?


I'm always up for video help in refining existing skills and working on new ones. Might be worth seeking some sponsorship and doing some product placement to make it worth your while.

P.S. I know they're not that difficult, but I would have classified jumping transitions as beginner/intermediate rather than noob?
bobjaan
bobjaan
WA
314 posts
WA, 314 posts
24 Sep 2009 10:48am
Cool will have a crack over the next few days, weather depending. Will start with some basic tricks and then work to the passes.

Requests welcome and help even more welcome.
Might need some help with Filming and happy for other people to get in on the trick action.



moon waxing
moon waxing
WA
313 posts
WA, 313 posts
24 Sep 2009 11:43am
As mentioned killing your speed in the original direction by carving to windward just before you jump and trying to push yourself in new direction as you release from the water.

Any momentum in the original direction absorbs the pull from kite when diving in the new direction causing you to just sink.

Looping the kite will help pull you out but if your not ready for the pull or time it wrong could get messy.
Alfred007
Alfred007
VIC
37 posts
VIC, 37 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:30pm
Pretty decent website, in case you don't know it: www.kite-skills.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=54
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:48pm
I'll just add one little bit the to above.

When you redirect the kite to the new direction try making an "S" with the kite so to speak. This will give a strong pull in the new direction and you'll power away. Works for any other transition as well.
webby7
webby7
QLD
145 posts
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:50pm
thanks for all the advice i'll check that site out to alfreddo
mjaygray
mjaygray
WA
125 posts
WA, 125 posts
24 Sep 2009 2:15pm

why not just try to ask that mate of yours buddy
webby7
webby7
QLD
145 posts
QLD, 145 posts
24 Sep 2009 4:20pm
mjaygray said...


why not just try to ask that mate of yours buddy


haha cause we're both trying to learn it and both getting completely different and equally funny landings that look nothing like they should
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5125 posts
VIC, 5125 posts
24 Sep 2009 5:53pm
The easiest and funnest air transition is the downloop air gybe. Simply do the jump of your choice then pull fairly hard on your front hand to send the kite around. This eliminates all the problems of landing underpowered.

When first starting do the jump, keep the kite high then send it down and around when you land. As you get the feel of it send it harder and earlier and from higher and you will end up doing a nice powered orbit and land fulling planing in the opposite direction.

With a little practice it's easier to do the downloop than a normal jump because it's essentially overcooking the jump then keeping the kite going in the same direction. It makes a trick out of a mistake.

For the straight up pop transition you can also try landing to toeside. It tends to put you in a better body position so you're ready to plane away.

If all else fails, just keep doing what you're doing and loop the kite faster so you can ride away planing.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
25 Sep 2009 8:54am
www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=kitefilm&e=com

right at the bottom of the page is a downloadable WMV. hope this helps
webby7
webby7
QLD
145 posts
QLD, 145 posts
25 Sep 2009 12:02pm
dave...... said...

www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=kitefilm&e=com

right at the bottom of the page is a downloadable WMV. hope this helps


that's an awesome sight mate thanks
Clintos
Clintos
QLD
88 posts
QLD, 88 posts
25 Sep 2009 9:44pm
I can show you how mate, but it looks a lot better if you throw a backroll in while doing it..
Dj Atak
Dj Atak
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
26 Sep 2009 12:07am
gday webby! go to youtube and type in transition with ruben.
kitebored
kitebored
NSW
593 posts
NSW, 593 posts
26 Sep 2009 7:11pm
Alfred007 said...

Pretty decent website, in case you don't know it: www.kite-skills.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=54


Cheers!
kitepete
kitepete
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
26 Sep 2009 9:43pm
You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting
kiting kid
kiting kid
VIC
219 posts
VIC, 219 posts
26 Sep 2009 9:49pm
kitepete said...

You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting


don't leave the kiteloop to late
strez
strez
QLD
58 posts
QLD, 58 posts
27 Sep 2009 10:39am
kiting kid said...

kitepete said...

You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting


don't leave the kiteloop to late


if you do a down loop start it as you start coming down . you want to complete the loop and have it lifting up again and in the oposite direction befor you hit the water . time it right and it`s the softest landing there is

kiting kid
kiting kid
VIC
219 posts
VIC, 219 posts
27 Sep 2009 11:51am
strez said...

kiting kid said...

kitepete said...

You loose power because you pendulum around the kite leaving it at the edge or worse, past the edge of the window.

Try keeping the kite at zenth and not sending it as hard as a normal jump.
Edge very hard so your momentum is almost directly into the wind.
If you have to loop the kite, then the later you start the loop the softer landing

happy kiting


don't leave the kiteloop to late


if you do a down loop start it as you start coming down . you want to complete the loop and have it lifting up again and in the oposite direction befor you hit the water . time it right and it`s the softest landing there is




very true
NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
27 Sep 2009 4:33pm
A smooth aerial transition is an old school move. You'll need to ride properly powered up to do it right.
Don't be a skirt and use a bit bigger kite to loft around it.

Small kites make it real hard unless you have a bit of a wave and have the move totally nailed.
Small kites wont do a good job redirect your inertia and the move will look like a poor effort, to land to kite loop recovery.
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