ok here is my beef. Worked for a gym (inspired life bentley). They screwed me for unpaid pt sessions and commission of about $4500.

I was working for the gym as membership consultant and a pt. I got my wages paid via regular payg format and i invoiced for my pt and sessions and commission.

They basically went under about 6 months ago liquidated, just shut the doors, promised myself and every other staff member there we would be paid out, then they changed their phone number and basically became uncontactable.

They were so harsh about it taking full membership for 1 and 2 years right up until they closed taking between 800 to 1200 of poor customers. This is just a rumor though i wouldnt put it past them. Apparently one of the brothers was charging the gym 10k a week under a different abn for "gym maintenance" until all the money was gone.

i have just yesterday got the residential address and phone number of one of the 2 owners. But i would love to know what path i take to recoup any money possible

your help is much appreciated

thanks

ben

Pm me.

Try a department like DOCEP first to see what advice they have.

If you believe there is fraudulent activity, consider contacting ASIC/FIDO.

Engaging a lawyer will be costly and it's probably unlikely you'll see your $4,500 although you'd have a better chance if they acted fraudulently.

h20fly said...
Apparently one of the brothers was charging the gym 10k a week under a different abn for "gym maintenance" until all the money was gone.

This is actually illegal under legislation that covers transfer of assets. Money is an asset. I.e. to prevent someone transferring assets to another company before a company is liquidated. The money charged has to be for services rendered so if there aren't any services rendered, its illegal. Same as paying your wife a salary from your company to do nothing and reduce you PAYG. I suggest you refer the matter to ASIC and the ATO to investigate letting them know what is happening. Both of them are normally quite happy to investigate and ASIC can ban him from a directorship at any company for a period of time as well.

If these are hidden from the liquidators, he could even be subject to jail time.

kitelooper1 said...

Dont waste time and money, go hire some muscle. It is quite common. Ask for contacts at the pub, used car dealers, tatt shops or Motor Cycle repair businesses. Knock on the Jokers compound if you have balls.

Works a treat.

yep some heavy will buy a $4500 debt off your for $1000, he collects the $4500 through a little door knocking, you get the $1000, spend it on a new board spare the pain and anguish and time consumption, and while your at it spare the lawyers from having to bank your hard earned while they chase the gym crooks for 6 months

^^^ in all the wrong places

please take my advice with a bucket of salt and upgrade your health insurence

h20fly said...

GalahOnTheBay said...

^^^ that's the good news.

The bad news is you (and the others owed money) are in a pre-defined line in terms of who gets money back from the liquidation proceeds, and in this case you are not first in line...

See: http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/pdflib.nsf/LookupByFileName/Liquidation_guide_for_creditors.pdf/$file/Liquidation_guide_for_creditors.pdf

thanks for all the help guys. im getting to the piont where i think ill probably just have to write it off.. but i have never even heard from any liquidators or have no idea how to find out who they are.. and i think its a fruitless effort as all the money is gone ...

I wouldn't let them get away with it. No point in letting them do the same thing to someone else. Report it to ASIC and the ATO anyway, at least they get their just rewards even if you don't.

department of industrial relations in your state.

if they havn't truly gone into recievership and just closed the doors then the good old DIR will pursue them directly for free or pursue the recievers if they did, in which case you stand in line.

possibly the only govt department that actually produces results in my experience.

this is a kite site, not air your trouble .harden up ,and ask the salvo's for some free tissues..

rhinoman said...

this is a kite site, not air your trouble .harden up ,and ask the salvo's for some free tissues..

can i have your autograph?

kitelooper1 said...

Forget the $4500, if you're any decent as PT that's a weeks wage, not worth the time or effort.

wow man...im in the wrong game!

sebol said...

Why study to be a doctor or an architect when you can make $4500 as a PT?
That is $234 000

You would have to sell Kosciusko sized mountains of musashi and pat every meathead in the country on the back to even make half that as a PT

h20fly said...

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i have just yesterday got the residential address and phone number .......

visit them and try and discuss with them, dont leave till you resolve something, like cash or goods to the value. they will probably try and throw you out, ring every hour, then bring back some big ugly looking guys to stand behind you and knock on the door, bikies are good for this. They may ring the cops though and have every right too.

they sound like assholes so this may be water off a ducks back to them. maybe get a few uppercuts in before leaving or graffiti the car or front door. might make you feel better.