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mikeb
mikeb
QLD
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QLD, 126 posts
27 Jun 2007 3:50pm
Hi all if you Have not received an email from Matt Colefax updating you so far. A meeting at the council has already been held, its been advised for people to write their own submission against banning rather than just signing a petition as that does not hold much weight.
Forward a copy of your submission to Matt at [email protected] Asher Hammond is putting together a Media Campaign and anyone intersted in helping him out please contact him on 0406954055.


richrelative
richrelative
WA
162 posts
WA, 162 posts
27 Jun 2007 4:14pm
Great! lot of effort for bugger all,thought someone said they were already dealing with the council,you sure you dont want to double check the address? have you got the right council?
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
27 Jun 2007 6:24pm
I vote richrelative to be president of dickofthemonth club
rooey
rooey
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
27 Jun 2007 7:18pm
Spose you are an enlightened kiter,with a sound knowledge of the politic's of Noosa head's hey Richrello,thank's for your positive input....NOT
Crusoe
Crusoe
QLD
1197 posts
QLD, 1197 posts
28 Jun 2007 5:53pm
Sounds like you guys have got a bit of a problem. And from what I have read in the paper it sounds like the 5% minority has probably caused it as usual. Hopefully a lot of you guys send in submissions/proposals to let the council know your feelings on the matter. Don't let them assume the 5% minority who have stirred up the mess are an accurate representation of the rest of the guys who kite surf. If you do get motivated to send something to the council make sure you include suggestions on how to fix the problem. Don't bury your head in the sand and say it is not your fault and that power should give way to sail.

I have kited at beaches where the local council (I presume) has put up signs with the kiting rules for the area. These local rules could be also taught when people start out learning and are getting paid lessons. (hope this suggestion doesn't upset the local kite surfing teachers). If you have set rules for an area then it is easy for the guys who are doing the right thing to approach guys doing the wrong thing and put them on the right tack.

If your council closes the area for you guys then other councils may follow suit with other great kiting locations.

Good luck
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
28 Jun 2007 6:13pm
Hey Boys an girls you can help....please, we are asking everyone that kite surfs and who would hate to lose one of there favorite places.

This is a guide only,please write your own version of the facts stated here in Matt & Becks submission,It will have far more effect than a copy of this one.

There is also a rally / BBQ planned for Saturday July 21. Stay tuned to www.traqua.com for the exact time and place.
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Submission on Kitesurfing in Noosa
26 June 2007
Mathew & Rebecca Colefax and Family
PO Box 1115, Noosaville DC, QLD 4566
T: 07 5455 6633 E: [email protected]


To the Noosa River Planning committee, and relevant state bodies:

Peter Milne Noosa Council, [email protected] cc: [email protected]

To Whom It May Concern:

In regards to the most recent version of the Noosa River Plan we are proponents of kitesurfing and the protection of Noosas natural assets. We want the plan changed to better align with these activities.

Who is making this submission:
A description of your background and why you love kitesurfing at the rivermouth or alternatively delete this section

Kitesurfing facts
The Noosa River mouth is a very special location for kitesurfing, it cannot be replaced by any other location in the Noosa river or ocean because of the unique and desirable conditions it offers of flat tidal flow water and funnelling steady wind blowing undisturbed from the ocean. Kitesurfing is environmentally sound, There is no pollution or noise emitted and virtually no wake. Visually we get only positive feedback from bystanders about the colourful gliding kites.

The Noosa River mouth only attracts kite surfers when the wind blows from the N to NE against an outgoing tide, generally this occurs on some spring and summer afternoons when the sun casts shadows towards the carpark. Kitesurfing is therefore naturally constrained by the weather unlike other activities. In general kitesurfing numbers are also constrained by parking at the spit in summertime. There are probably several hundred kite surfers who live near enough to regularly patronise Noosa Rivermouth, ranging in age from under 10 to over 50. Because of the ideal conditions we see many tourists from Interstate and Overseas visiting Noosa to kitesurf. They bring their credit cards, their families and tell their friends.

The kitesurfing demographic includes doctors, lawyers, executives, builders, commercial pilots, etc. There are at least 3 local businesses that depend upon kitesurfing, plus many more that benefit indirectly from kitesurfing in Noosa. There has been no accidents reported involving kitesurfing in Noosa, so kitesurfing has proved a low risk activity and it also shows that the self regulation by local kite surfers has been very effective.

Why its important
· A growing number of Noosa locals are participating in kitesurfing at the Noosa Rivermouth. And it has gathered fame with kite surfers around the world. Noosa kite surfers since 2002 have joined together in successful self management. As intended Noosa continues to benefit from kitesurfing in the following ways
· Tourism – An ever increasing number of domestic and international tourists visit Noosa to kitesurf, with the Rivermouth being a prime reason. They often bring their families and always tell their friends.
· Publicity – Many TV programs including Getaway have featured footage of kitesurfing at Noosa Rivermouth, and in 2006 Nissan filmed a National TV advertisement of kitesurfing at Noosa Rivermouth ! There have been countless media articles promoting Noosa with mention of kitesurfing for example Virgins in flight magazine, Sir Richard Branson himself is a kitesurf enthusiast. It is even mentioned to sell property ! We have heard of many comments from people who come every year to watch and enjoy the kitesurfing at the rivermouth.
· Training future champions – Rebecca Colefax honed her World Championship title winning skills at the Noosa Rivermouth, and now a new breed of young ambassadors such as Keahi DeAboitz and Lewis Back use the rivermouth to train. This is something for Noosa to be proud of, recognise and support.
· Industry – At least 3 local businesses main trade is dependent on kitesurfing. And there are many more Noosa businesses who benefit either directly or indirectly.
· Community health – Kitesurfing is a healthy outdoors activity enjoyed by participants and spectators of all ages and backgrounds. Kids through to grandparents all kitesurf at the rivermouth and whole families who come just to watch. What better way to stay fit and enjoy nature. It is a perfect activity to suit the objectives of the Noosa River plan.

Concerns
· We are very concerned by your current proposal to ban kitesurfing at the rivermouth, with no substantiated evidence that this proposal is either warranted or workable. Best management practice is of course engaging kite surfers and partnering to develop sustainable solutions.
· The latest River plan proposal raised the concerns of boats crossing the Noosa Bar. We agree with the suggestion that informing other user groups about kitesurfing and at the same time informing and educating kite surfers about other user groups expectations and interests is the best way to avoid conflict.
· Another serious concern is the birds roosting in the Frying Pan area. The kitesurf community cannot be singled out while other user groups are free to roam through / past the birds. Because kitesurfing usually occurs after midday any shadows from the kites fall towards the carpark so we do not believe they disturb roosting birds. And we note the comment “kites probably instigate a predator response” is speculation without evidence.
· Collisions between kites or with other users, kitesurfers self imposed code of practice has been effective at preventing collisions.
· Concerns have also been raised by many other Noosa citizens that large powerful thrill riding boats are not consistent with the broader vision of Noosa. Surely anyone who has peacefully paddled, sailed or walked to a place in the National Park where nature can be observed free of noise and pollution knows how wrong it is for these machines to terrorise dolphins, turtles, whales, mantas and swimmers.

Opportunities
· To capitalise on this future smart activity and promote kitesurfing to maximise benefits to Noosa, We are confident that kitesurfing is exactly the sort of sustainable activity that most people want and will appreciate.
· To review kite surfers requests, particularly for recognition of Noosa rivermouth as a prime kitesurfing area and to erect appropriate signage.
· To further develop our self management with councils input to achieve a higher standard. A typical suggestion was to provide information kits and uniforms (T-shirt and hat) for volunteers who can then inform kite surfers and non kite surfers alike about kitesurfing. Self regulation and involving kite surfers in management decisions is very important for a workable solution.
· To encourage participation for community health and diversity and develop appreciation of nature.

Summary
Kitesurfing has proven to be a low risk, high benefit activity and it can develop in harmony with the intent of the Noosa River Plan. This environmentally safe sport is enjoyed by participants and spectators of diverse ages and backgrounds. It is exactly the sort of activity Noosa wants to encourage. Noosa Rivermouth is a unique kitesurfing icon and host to Australia’s 1st kite surfers. It is the home ground of Australia’s only kitesurfing world champion and a beautiful backdrop for sport and recreation. This great community asset can be enhanced by a constructive plan to manage kitesurfing, the AKSA supports this idea.

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michel
michel
NSW
413 posts
NSW, 413 posts
29 Jun 2007 10:16am
They say its the majority that rules!personally ive always thought that its the minority that rules!because its always those few halfbakes that spoil it for everybody else and due to their lack of common sense behaviour councils etc start banning things,and here is another example of that at NRM
NSW, 4382 posts
29 Jun 2007 1:17pm
Just sent off my letters, too easy to do really, and well worth the cause.
If a ban is implemented here, then it sets a precedent for other councils, maybe your local one, to do the same.

So don't be complacent, or a sh1tstirrer, just do it, and get behind this push regardless of any politics in our sport or industry.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
29 Jun 2007 2:04pm
quote:
Originally posted by Kitepower Australia

Just sent off my letters, too easy to do really, and well worth the cause.
If a ban is implemented here, then it sets a precedent for other councils, maybe your local one, to do the same.

So don't be complacent, or a sh1tstirrer, just do it, and get behind this push regardless of any politics in our sport or industry.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve



Yeah, good on you Steve.
I already done it last week, and I got a next day return email from Mr Peter Milne - prety efficient bloke.

We have to get all of us our submissions as it is not onlyy Noosa at stake.
However, somehow, we have to do something to get those "hot blooded" light headed "huligans" to undrestand that their actions are affecting the kitesurfing community as a whole and by the end of the day temselves too.
kiteastrophy
kiteastrophy
WA
29 posts
WA, 29 posts
29 Jun 2007 5:14pm
quote:
Originally posted by Kitepower Australia

Just sent off my letters, too easy to do really, and well worth the cause.
If a ban is implemented here, then it sets a precedent for other councils, maybe your local one, to do the same.
So don't be complacent, or a sh1tstirrer, just do it, and get behind this push regardless of any politics in our sport or industry.
Cya and
Goodwinds
Steve



I too have sent my letter and hope that it makes a difference.
However after steves pointless rants on the "peter lynn auto zenith" I find it hard to support him on anything. so not one to be a "sh1tstirrer" or 2 get involved with "any politics in our sport or industry" good luck Noosa boys!
all the best
bob
paulio
paulio
QLD
890 posts
QLD, 890 posts
29 Jun 2007 7:22pm
Quite a few down here have done the same,hope they get that many their computer system crashes.....lol
rooey
rooey
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
29 Jun 2007 8:17pm
Hay gang,heard the latest...Noosa Council has been given a couple of hundred $thou buy the Federal Gov, to lenghthen the rock wall at the rivmth an extra 150m to combat erosion...start's in August....f..in ludicras !concrete fishing platform's,pathway and garden's,just can't wait ...hope it create's a good bank for surfin...more flat water to kite on too I spose, if we are allowed,new the bugger's had something up there sleeve,guess they don't want kiter's to fitt into THERE big picture?
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
29 Jun 2007 9:29pm
Oh yeh gr8 hows the birds going to like that,all that heavy earth moving machinery,I am sure they will think the excavator is a T rex and they wont get any rest before there journey back to russia or where ever they rekon they gomakes there argument about kite shadows scaring the birds pretty weak.
NSW, 4382 posts
1 Jul 2007 1:59pm
Bump, and dear wittle bobby - get with the program moron - this thread is not about supporting me, its about supporting your fellow kiters in a time of need.
If you did that good on ya.
I only asked your mate/other username to cough up the facts.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

quote:
Originally posted by kiteastrophy

quote:
Originally posted by Kitepower Australia

Just sent off my letters, too easy to do really, and well worth the cause.
If a ban is implemented here, then it sets a precedent for other councils, maybe your local one, to do the same.
So don't be complacent, or a sh1tstirrer, just do it, and get behind this push regardless of any politics in our sport or industry.
Cya and
Goodwinds
Steve



I too have sent my letter and hope that it makes a difference.
However after steves pointless rants on the "peter lynn auto zenith" I find it hard to support him on anything. so not one to be a "sh1tstirrer" or 2 get involved with "any politics in our sport or industry" good luck Noosa boys!
all the best
bob

kiteastrophy
kiteastrophy
WA
29 posts
WA, 29 posts
1 Jul 2007 5:07pm
we're in heated agreement stevie, lets keep supporting fellow kiters! It's something we all should do if we want to keep acess for this great sport.
thanks for the free evaluation of my interlect. wonder why I'm not so quick to give you my support?
thanks
bob
(wittle bobby)

quote:
Originally posted by Kitepower Australia:
Bump, and dear wittle bobby - get with the program moron - this thread is not about supporting me, its about supporting your fellow kiters in a time of need.
If you did that good on ya.
I only asked your mate/other username to cough up the facts.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
joespencer
joespencer
QLD
167 posts
QLD, 167 posts
1 Jul 2007 10:23pm
FISHING PLATFORMS.......i suppose the fishing refuse that chokes seabirds is good for them- the fishing lines and hooks that you see hanging from their mouths _ I suppose that is less damaging to the birds than the kites flying nearby?

Why has kite-ing been villified in Noosa? . A low impact sport with minimal participants vs greater impact but more widespread/accepted sports (4wd fishing boating in around the rivermouth).


Maybe it is an issue of public liability- the fishing lines will tangle kiters (!) ---- putting them headfirst into the new breakwall and costing the council millions in legal compensation payouts


I would have thought it would have been a great tourist sight from the breakwall.
joespencer
joespencer
QLD
167 posts
QLD, 167 posts
1 Jul 2007 10:34pm
Actually the more I think about it , the more it seems that their only likely concern would be the liability they face through accidents . All their other objections sounded hollow, and they have not mentioned liability at all (usually best not talked about)


Accidents caused probably from the increased boat use through a more protected bar .


More boats + more kiters= more accidents= more liability.
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
2 Jul 2007 6:02am
You have to accept the fact that not everybody likes kiters !

They don't like walking around kites on the beach.
They don't like dodging wayward kites.
They don't like showoffs jumping metres away from them,their children or their boats.

Oh,and Steve,a bit much calling someone "a moron" just because he had a shot at you.
We need to present a unified front to the World.

The people that decide these things may read this Forum!

Doesn't look good ,calling each other names and accusing them of being like Hitler !
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
2 Jul 2007 10:50am
quote:
Originally posted by user

We need to present a unified front to the World.

The people that decide these things may read this Forum!





The first statement: I agree 100%, although it looks impossible

Second statement: if they do... we lost the fight

Sorry, but that's the case.
NSW, 4382 posts
2 Jul 2007 1:38pm
Bump - and User

I would ahve thought it was pretty obvious that this thread is about supporting our fellow kiters, not for use as an opportunity to take a cheap and completely illogical shot at me (which is what Bob did), would you agree?

Throwing in your 2C worth and accusing me of saying Bob is like Hitler is a bit weird and completely unwarranted too mate.

Write your letter to Noosa shire, that will show solidarity and unity, and leave the personal slagging to some other thread eh?

As if anything I have said could be used against the Noosa kiters, pfffft!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve



quote:
Originally posted by user

You have to accept the fact that not everybody likes kiters !

They don't like walking around kites on the beach.
They don't like dodging wayward kites.
They don't like showoffs jumping metres away from them,their children or their boats.

Oh,and Steve,a bit much calling someone "a moron" just because he had a shot at you.
We need to present a unified front to the World.

The people that decide these things may read this Forum!

Doesn't look good ,calling each other names and accusing them of being like Hitler !

sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
2 Jul 2007 2:12pm
Too right - this is a serious thread - please keep sledging out of it.

Thanks

Nick
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
2 Jul 2007 12:52pm
hahahaha, love the handbags boys. keep at it for our entertainment. :)

Email sent. Hope it makes a difference for you locals.
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
2 Jul 2007 8:35pm
quote:
Originally posted by Kitepower Australia

Bump - and User

I would ahve thought it was pretty obvious that this thread is about supporting our fellow kiters, not for use as an opportunity to take a cheap and completely illogical shot at me (which is what Bob did), would you agree?

Throwing in your 2C worth and accusing me of saying Bob is like Hitler is a bit weird and completely unwarranted too mate.

Write your letter to Noosa shire, that will show solidarity and unity, and leave the personal slagging to some other thread eh?

As if anything I have said could be used against the Noosa kiters, pfffft!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve



quote:
Originally posted by user

You have to accept the fact that not everybody likes kiters !

They don't like walking around kites on the beach.
They don't like dodging wayward kites.
They don't like showoffs jumping metres away from them,their children or their boats.

Oh,and Steve,a bit much calling someone "a moron" just because he had a shot at you.
We need to present a unified front to the World.

The people that decide these things may read this Forum!

Doesn't look good ,calling each other names and accusing them of being like Hitler !





I never said YOU made the Hitler comment,it was made in the letter that someone else drafted here.

As for the "cheap illogical shot" ,replying with the same does not achieve anything. As I said,over the top calling someone a moron.
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