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Plummet
Plummet
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6 Mar 2013 6:22pm
went out today. .... everyone was on 10's so I followed the pack. abit underdone so i slapped the 13 up.

ahhh there it is perfect power. just at the point before trimming. big floaty boosts pillowy soft landings... speed. loops. good fun.

ahhh.

i like those sessions were the kite is right there in the sweet spot.
GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
6 Mar 2013 8:33pm
There is a theme to your posts.
zarb
zarb
NSW
703 posts
NSW, 703 posts
6 Mar 2013 9:54pm
Everyone else was on 10s today... but I felt I needed practice in less-desirable conditions so I took out the 8. Totally worth it, I had to work for the power and learnt a lot.
Haydn24
Haydn24
QLD
473 posts
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6 Mar 2013 10:07pm
Modesty at its greatest
eppo
eppo
WA
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6 Mar 2013 8:21pm
Or you could do what my brother did today. 25 knots on an 11m edge so that crew has to hold him down when he launched. man he was going BIG.

THINK I have created a monster!!

Well and truly above the sweet spot. Lol.

Was in a good zone on the 9m!

Looks like his big wave antics, lack of sensible wave choice and lack of self preservation when surfing is coming out on the edge !!
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
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6 Mar 2013 11:23pm
with great power comes great responsibility
T one
T one
NT
321 posts
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6 Mar 2013 10:14pm
I'm hearin ya Plum!!
eppo
eppo
WA
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6 Mar 2013 9:39pm
stabber said...
with great power comes great responsibility




And he's not the most responsible individual....especially after he did a triple back roll in those conditions. Nutter!!
dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
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7 Mar 2013 12:31am
eppo said...
Or you could do what my brother did today. 25 knots on an 11m edge so that crew has to hold him down when he launched. man he was going BIG.




what does he weigh eppo ? 40kegs ?

although 25 knots is getting towards the upper limit of the 11
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
WA, 1397 posts
7 Mar 2013 12:57am
Well I had a ball on my 7 at Melville on my surfboard.
I think someone should call me out !

I think there is a culture in kiting that I have not yet got, ie a big a kite as you can..... I've gone the reverse, ie go for a small kite when ican....but only a year in.. And from a polie wave sail background too.

I think I have mental issues. I'm kiting like I wave sailed ..gotta change, !
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
7 Mar 2013 3:50am
ahh. you boys miss interpret my post or i worded my post badly. I'm not boasting riding a 13 when others were on 10's. It was one of those weird days that looked windier than it was. a few people put up 10's and 9's and everyone else that turned up followed suit. as did I. but after 40 mins of mowing the lawns with tiddly jumps i though stuff it not powered enough.

Then stepped into the 13.

Dave.
If your loving small kite wave riding. there is nothing wrong with that. Its the best option if you want to "surf" the wave closest to a surfer.

Eppo.
Wind pulled up towards the end of the session and I got a little past the "perfect" point. prob 23 od knots.. on the 13 edge. so yes i too can be silly too.
arloj
arloj
WA
237 posts
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7 Mar 2013 7:22am
Dave Whettingsteel said...
Well I had a ball on my 7 at Melville on my surfboard.
I think someone should call me out !

I think there is a culture in kiting that I have not yet got, ie a big a kite as you can..... I've gone the reverse, ie go for a small kite when ican....but only a year in.. And from a polie wave sail background too.

I think I have mental issues. I'm kiting like I wave sailed ..gotta change, !


We're you out yesterday? I was there kiting for 4 hours. It was the session of deflated bladders I towed in 2 people an saw a 3rd being brought back into shore.

Tuesday looks insane for geraldton..another big Friday I think!!
eppo
eppo
WA
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7 Mar 2013 7:38am
dusta said...
eppo said...
Or you could do what my brother did today. 25 knots on an 11m edge so that crew has to hold him down when he launched. man he was going BIG.




what does he weigh eppo ? 40kegs ?

although 25 knots is getting towards the upper limit of the 11




Well I say 25 might be 25 gusting up a bit. We get gusty wind here must be the estuary. Yeh I might be exaggerating a bit he wasnt like out of control but he was at his limit as we both don't touch the depower strap!
eppo
eppo
WA
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7 Mar 2013 7:45am
Dave Whettingsteel said...
Well I had a ball on my 7 at Melville on my surfboard.
I think someone should call me out !

I think there is a culture in kiting that I have not yet got, ie a big a kite as you can..... I've gone the reverse, ie go for a small kite when ican....but only a year in.. And from a polie wave sail background too.

I think I have mental issues. I'm kiting like I wave sailed ..gotta change, !




Nah Dave that is just being sensible! Also if on a SB smaller the better I say. bros about 4yrs in and just starting to hit his straps. he has always been a bit of a nutter his nickname used to be Maddog at footy and in the surf. He's the kind of guy when you were frantically trying to get over a 10 foot slab at gillitenes down south he'd turn around and take off on an Impossible wave get smashed and love it. The animal is starting to emerge in kiting now!!

No the trend of the biggest kite as you can handle seems to be more of a dying art everyone's prancing about doing their cutbacks on SBs on 7 m in two foot mush. Lol.
default
default
WA
1255 posts
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7 Mar 2013 9:11am
eppo said...

No the trend of the biggest kite as you can handle seems to be more of a dying art everyone's prancing about doing their cutbacks on SBs on 7 m in two foot mush. Lol.


Interesting comment about the 2 foot "mush". I hear some ppl say this when talking about perth metro waves. Maybe a bit pedantic, but every time I see this I think technically its an incorrect comment.. The waves albeit small, tiny even are actually punchy sucky little shorey fkers.

Probably why they still a lot of fun to smash lips and punt off etc, even a cutback or two ;) I dont really have a problem with how small they are when kiting and I often think its great that kiting makes such little waves still so fun..

Was discussing this local wave type with my shaper, Dave Lewis. He thinks the same and we shape my kiting boards with a decent amount of rocker for "in pocket" turns (just have a very short flat section in the middle of the rocker/board - to get speed going quickly when first setting off, or tacking.. then once riding the board rides on the tail rocker for the most part). Mushy/spilling type waves are actually hard to find on our beachies which suit a flat rocker. Most guys in Perth are riding flat rockered boards bought off the shelf with the design targeted at "mushy" waves thinking this is the best performing shape for Perth metro.. think again
dbabicwa
dbabicwa
WA
809 posts
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7 Mar 2013 10:26am
eppo said...

No the trend of the biggest kite as you can handle seems to be more of a dying art ...


Exactly.

Did you notice the lines are shorter as well? :)) Something tells me they were 28-32m not so long ago. No wonder people were boosting higher than this days.
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
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7 Mar 2013 11:16am
default said...
eppo said...

No the trend of the biggest kite as you can handle seems to be more of a dying art everyone's prancing about doing their cutbacks on SBs on 7 m in two foot mush. Lol.


Interesting comment about the 2 foot "mush". I hear some ppl say this when talking about perth metro waves. Maybe a bit pedantic, but every time I see this I think technically its an incorrect comment.. The waves albeit small, tiny even are actually punchy sucky little shorey fkers.

Probably why they still a lot of fun to smash lips and punt off etc, even a cutback or two ;) I dont really have a problem with how small they are when kiting and I often think its great that kiting makes such little waves still so fun..

Was discussing this local wave type with my shaper, Dave Lewis. He thinks the same and we shape my kiting boards with a decent amount of rocker for "in pocket" turns (just have a very short flat section in the middle of the rocker/board - to get speed going quickly when first setting off, or tacking.. then once riding the board rides on the tail rocker for the most part). Mushy/spilling type waves are actually hard to find on our beachies which suit a flat rocker. Most guys in Perth are riding flat rockered boards bought off the shelf with the design targeted at "mushy" waves thinking this is the best performing shape for Perth metro.. think again




Still mush to me...hey each to their own of course. Some people just don't like the vertical dimension...just like most windsurfers ...(not all of course, seen some sick windsurfing height - but Jesus they come down hard).
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
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7 Mar 2013 2:36pm
dbabicwa said...
eppo said...

No the trend of the biggest kite as you can handle seems to be more of a dying art ...


Exactly.

Did you notice the lines are shorter as well? :)) Something tells me they were 28-32m not so long ago. No wonder people were boosting higher than this days.


That's why 2013 model kites have AMAZING turning speed. They are exactly the same kite painted green instead of blue with 20m lines instead of 22.
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
WA, 1397 posts
7 Mar 2013 4:52pm

Nah Dave that is just being sensible! Also if on a SB smaller the better I say. bros about 4yrs in and just starting to hit his straps. he has always been a bit of a nutter his nickname used to be Maddog at footy and in the surf. He's the kind of guy when you were frantically trying to get over a 10 foot slab at gillitenes down south he'd turn around and take off on an Impossible wave get smashed and love it. The animal is starting to emerge in kiting now!!

No the trend of the biggest kite as you can handle seems to be more of a dying art everyone's prancing about doing their cutbacks on SBs on 7 m in two foot mush. Lol.


Just being sensible?!?! mmmm, I think that means I should lift my game! Seriously though I do think I am trapped in wavesailing mindset and relearning the same stuff I did then on new gear. Though I dont think I ever ripped out of a turn as fast as I can with a kite. Might have to try a twin tip and explore the vertical more seriously I think.

Saw Storm Surfers 3D at the Surfaid event last night. Reckon even your bro would have been impressed with some of the take-offs and poundings. And turtle dove shoal off Dongara is unbelievable.

Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
WA, 1397 posts
7 Mar 2013 4:55pm

We're you out yesterday? I was there kiting for 4 hours. It was the session of deflated bladders I towed in 2 people an saw a 3rd being brought back into shore.

Tuesday looks insane for geraldton..another big Friday I think!!


Yup, got a hour and a half in before the wind went wobbly. And no towing either! bad day for bladders by the sounds of it.

eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
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7 Mar 2013 7:45pm
Dave Whettingsteel said...

Nah Dave that is just being sensible! Also if on a SB smaller the better I say. bros about 4yrs in and just starting to hit his straps. he has always been a bit of a nutter his nickname used to be Maddog at footy and in the surf. He's the kind of guy when you were frantically trying to get over a 10 foot slab at gillitenes down south he'd turn around and take off on an Impossible wave get smashed and love it. The animal is starting to emerge in kiting now!!

No the trend of the biggest kite as you can handle seems to be more of a dying art everyone's prancing about doing their cutbacks on SBs on 7 m in two foot mush. Lol.


Just being sensible?!?! mmmm, I think that means I should lift my game! Seriously though I do think I am trapped in wavesailing mindset and relearning the same stuff I did then on new gear. Though I dont think I ever ripped out of a turn as fast as I can with a kite. Might have to try a twin tip and explore the vertical more seriously I think.

Saw Storm Surfers 3D at the Surfaid event last night. Reckon even your bro would have been impressed with some of the take-offs and poundings. And turtle dove shoal off Dongara is unbelievable.






Mate some of the stuff they are doing on strapless surfboards are just blowing my mind. I ride strapless SB myself now and then for kicks and giggles and trying to master the skim only then do you appreciate how bloody good these guys are.

But give me crazy overpowered boosting on my edge anyday!!
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
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WA, 1397 posts
7 Mar 2013 9:04pm




But give me crazy overpowered boosting on my edge anyday!!


Hmm, you are a nice guy Eppo, but I think you are reinforcing my feeling that I need to break out of wavesailing mentality..

Really, who, having seen kiting, doesn't want to do great big aerials?
eppo
eppo
WA
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7 Mar 2013 10:29pm
Dave Whettingsteel said...




But give me crazy overpowered boosting on my edge anyday!!


Hmm, you are a nice guy Eppo, but I think you are reinforcing my feeling that I need to break out of wavesailing mentality..

Really, who, having seen kiting, doesn't want to do great big aerials?




Just sit on any metro beach for a while, more examples of wave sailing disciples that the aerial crew.

Got a young bloke I mentored from last winter, grew up surfing, that was his sport period. He also is wave sailing but has started to ask about the 'old school' stuff now. A bit of both I reckon is the way to go. Spend some time with cauncy he will inspire you to explore this form of the sport. Funny we call it old school I was riding surfboards only in the early days, I call that old school for that reason. Lol. But yeh I'm caught in a time warp. Oh well.
thorn
thorn
WA
172 posts
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7 Mar 2013 11:30pm
Hey Eppo
Kited with your brother yesterday. Biggest jumps I have ever seen and his triple bank roll was perfect. I was on my 9m Edge and barely holding on so don't know how Shane did it on his 11m.
eppo
eppo
WA
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8 Mar 2013 1:29pm
They don't call him maddog for nothing. That's just the start! Thing is every session he has a brain fade at least once. He's getting into winds and kite sizes now, that a mistake could cause serious problems.

maybe I'm just being the older wiser boring brother...let him go!!!

You want silly height, intense speed and power, incredible glide and actually be able to control it all...only one kite to be on...
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