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recommendation for kiteboarding gear for an 8 year old.

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Created by Tommygun Tuesday, 12 Feb 2019
Tommygun
NSW, 26 posts
Tuesday , 12 Feb 2019 3:59PM
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Ive been teaching Kiteboarding to adults for a while and now want to get my son in the game.
Has anyone given lessons to children, and can give some incite on specific brands that might suit children. Kite, harness board etc.
He is a skinny and light 8 yr old.
Thank you

STELLA01
WA, 122 posts
Tuesday , 12 Feb 2019 3:16PM
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Ozone Uno with short throw bar and Axis grom 115

Flying Objects xxs seat harness

cauncy
WA, 6826 posts
Tuesday , 12 Feb 2019 5:44PM
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Ozone cat v1 dakine girls seat keeping that bar low, short leash attached to preferred side / front,
board comes later

THE PIN PULLER
WA, 241 posts
Tuesday , 12 Feb 2019 7:45PM
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Flexifoil sky tiger 8m ram air kite. That's what I had at about 10 lol

BPBPerth
WA, 12 posts
Tuesday , 12 Feb 2019 8:22PM
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STELLA01 said..
Ozone Uno with short throw bar and Axis grom 115

Flying Objects xxs seat harness


Any additional info on the short throw bar would be appreciated - custom made or standard brand bar? Shortened lines? Thanks.

hardhat
QLD, 37 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 9:57AM
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Is it just me who thinks attaching an 8 year old to a kite rig is the worst idea ever?
No kite is designed for 35 kgs and 12 knots.
One mishap and and they'll be off it forever. You reckon their thought process is developed enough to make the right discissions during a beating?
My kids ask, I tell them 14 or 15.

STELLA01
WA, 122 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 8:47AM
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BPBPerth said..

STELLA01 said..
Ozone Uno with short throw bar and Axis grom 115

Flying Objects xxs seat harness



Any additional info on the short throw bar would be appreciated - custom made or standard brand bar? Shortened lines? Thanks.


Just have to order it through an Ozone retailer, not really a special custom its just that demand is not great enough for retailers to stock.
Yes the Cat is an awsome beginer kite but for an immature rider the Uno is the safest option.
A totally forgiving kite helps build their confidence quickly. Basically with the UNO when you let go of the bar all of your power is released and there is no backstall due to flying in low wind conditions.

BPBPerth
WA, 12 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 8:49AM
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hardhat said..
Is it just me who thinks attaching an 8 year old to a kite rig is the worst idea ever?
No kite is designed for 35 kgs and 12 knots.
One mishap and and they'll be off it forever. You reckon their thought process is developed enough to make the right discissions during a beating?
My kids ask, I tell them 14 or 15.


Opinions may vary on the right time/age to start kiting but let's not hijack this post with that discussion, feel free to start another thread.

Suggestions or opinions on what gear is available to support younger/lighter people wanting to start out in the sport would assist some of us in making an informed choice.

BPBPerth
WA, 12 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 8:50AM
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STELLA01 said..

BPBPerth said..


STELLA01 said..
Ozone Uno with short throw bar and Axis grom 115

Flying Objects xxs seat harness




Any additional info on the short throw bar would be appreciated - custom made or standard brand bar? Shortened lines? Thanks.



Just have to order it through an Ozone retailer, not really a special custom its just that demand is not great enough for retailers to stock.
Yes the Cat is an awsome beginer kite but for an immature rider the Uno is the safest option.
A totally forgiving kite helps build their confidence quickly. Basically with the UNO when you let go of the bar all of your power is released and there is no backstall due to flying in low wind conditions.


Awesome, thanks for the info.

STELLA01
WA, 122 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 8:53AM
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hardhat said..
Is it just me who thinks attaching an 8 year old to a kite rig is the worst idea ever?
No kite is designed for 35 kgs and 12 knots.
One mishap and and they'll be off it forever. You reckon their thought process is developed enough to make the right discissions during a beating?
My kids ask, I tell them 14 or 15.


With the correct equipment and guidance I don't see a problem, my son has kited since the age of 6 my daughter 8. The problem is that some guardians take the inexpensive option and put their kids on adult gear.

cauncy
WA, 6826 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 9:23AM
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hardhat said..
Is it just me who thinks attaching an 8 year old to a kite rig is the worst idea ever?
No kite is designed for 35 kgs and 12 knots.
One mishap and and they'll be off it forever. You reckon their thought process is developed enough to make the right discissions during a beating?
My kids ask, I tell them 14 or 15.


All I can say is I wish kiting was around when I was 8 and my folks got me into it, too much cotton glove treatment with kids imho

AquaPlow
QLD, 702 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 11:38AM
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STELLA01 said..
Ozone Uno with short throw bar and Axis grom 115

Flying Objects xxs seat harness

On the money.
Not necc' with this equipment but the whole approach.
Kite size to weight match, and definitely focus on getting the harness set up well - get the reach correct, so your kid can use the depower not just a little but the whole throw. I shortened the chicken loop and used a small hook. There are a range of options now to help you.
The other side is their attitude and ability. I insisted on nippers (=ocean skills), the ability to swim competently, and safety kit. So avoid the "all the gear and no idea" - situation. By the time you go through trainer kite, mucking with skim boards, the weather, safe kite handling through the power window, body dragging.... chuck in a lesson or two with a pro' - you will know when to pull the trigger. Mine went off like a rocket once let loose - best experience too
Cheers
AP
NB The female world champ is Mikaili Sol at 14 years old - this did not happen in a year so she likely started this age...
Have fun...

Ozone Kites Aus
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Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 1:08PM
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STELLA01 said..

BPBPerth said..


STELLA01 said..
Ozone Uno with short throw bar and Axis grom 115

Flying Objects xxs seat harness




Any additional info on the short throw bar would be appreciated - custom made or standard brand bar? Shortened lines? Thanks.



Just have to order it through an Ozone retailer, not really a special custom its just that demand is not great enough for retailers to stock.
Yes the Cat is an awsome beginer kite but for an immature rider the Uno is the safest option.
A totally forgiving kite helps build their confidence quickly. Basically with the UNO when you let go of the bar all of your power is released and there is no backstall due to flying in low wind conditions.


Dealers can order the short throw bar which is in stock, from Kitepower.
I know there is a Axis Vanguard grom size board there too, and the Uno's are also in stock.

theDoctor
NSW, 4591 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 1:15PM
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hardhat said..
Is it just me who thinks attaching an 8 year old to a kite rig is the worst idea ever?
No kite is designed for 35 kgs and 12 knots.
One mishap and and they'll be off it forever. You reckon their thought process is developed enough to make the right discissions during a beating?
My kids ask, I tell them 14 or 15.


Obviously never been to Mauritius...

swartgevaar
WA, 8 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 10:29AM
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4m Uno with 15m lines and the calm waters of the pond

shi thouse
WA, 726 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 11:17AM
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My eight year old has got it sorted this season and loves it. Have to say, there was tear in my eye when he came home after his latest session and said "dad, pretty soon we can pack the car and go on boys camping/kiting trips.....you can even bring some beer with you".

Taking him to the Baldivis Wake Park also helped a lot as it was there that he got his edging control.

He is now flying a Ozone Cat 6m with a smaller Ozone bar with 21m lines. I taught him with an Ozone Uno (which I personally don't like) with an kids Epic bar and lines - 15m. He was using a Grommet seat harness but didn't like it as it was crushing his "parts" so we now have an XS Ion waist harness which he loves.







Tbaggn
NSW, 38 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 3:28PM
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Taught my little fella 8 yo on a wopper stand up paddle board using a trainer kite with shortened lines. He was cruising along and had the general gist of it in no time.

ActionSportsWA
WA, 642 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 12:40PM
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Hi Tommygun,

Best kite for the job is either an Ozone Uno 4m kite or an Ozone Alpha 6m. The bar is not a big deal, a 45cm Ozone bar will work fine as the depower throw on small kites like that is really short in any case. They fly well in very light winds.

The ION Ripper harness in XXS is excellent and very cheap. Finding a board with small enough footstraps will be the issue. Any of the 128cm Soliel North/Duotone boards with the SMall NTT straps will work a treat. The board is the easiest problem to get around initially.

The hard part is finding an instructor with the credentials and equipment to teach a child so small. Do your homework on that one. Anyone who blurts out "no worries, I can do it", should be treated with a healthy degree of scepticism. Anyone teaching children should have a working with children permit and more importantly should be hesitant and cautious about teaching your son without a thorough briefing with the parents first.

Problem is, little kids can easily learn to kitesurf, they naturally adapt very quickly and can bu up and kiting in just a couple of lessons. BUT! The reason IKO and most teaching standards the world over only teach people over 12 yo, is that young children do not have the emotional maturity to handle a stressful situation on their own. A crashed kite that has a rear line caught around a wingtip and starts death looping in choppy waters could easily be the end of your boy.

Choose carefully

DM

BPBPerth
WA, 12 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 1:29PM
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Now at age 10 he is part of Duotone:
www.iksurfmag.com/kitesurfing-news/2018/10/welcome-to-the-team-davi/

shi thouse
WA, 726 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 1:43PM
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There are inherent risks with all sports, whether you are sticking your child on a horse, motocross, bmx, football, skateparks....

Although you will never mitigate all risks, the aim like all sports is to minimise these associated risks. My children have been flying trainer kites from a very young age, and have spent a lot of time in the water with me flying and developing their skills. At home we also talk non-stop about kiting, watch youtube clips and look at skills he would like to learn next.

The spot that my son kites is shallow for a good 200-300m. He can stand if he needs to, plus he kites on good gear, in moderate wind conditions, with a number of others out on their kites (they keep an eye on him), plus I stand in the water with a harness on and watch him the whole time.

I look forward to the day that we can kite together but that can wait until I have complete faith in his skills.

swartgevaar
WA, 8 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 2:10PM
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kiteboardingwa.org.au/kite-karnival-2019/competitor-profiles/

Davi should come compete against our WA juniors Anthony,Patrick and Nathan will teach him a few moves, it was nice to see the turnout at the Nationals the kids had so much fun. the future of any sport is in the development programs

Cauncy I hope you are ready for the grom attack at the Midwest Windfest in November

STELLA01
WA, 122 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 2:21PM
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ActionSportsWA said..
Hi Tommygun,

Best kite for the job is either an Ozone Uno 4m kite or an Ozone Alpha 6m. The bar is not a big deal, a 45cm Ozone bar will work fine as the depower throw on small kites like that is really short in any case. They fly well in very light winds.

The ION Ripper harness in XXS is excellent and very cheap. Finding a board with small enough footstraps will be the issue. Any of the 128cm Soliel North/Duotone boards with the SMall NTT straps will work a treat. The board is the easiest problem to get around initially.

The hard part is finding an instructor with the credentials and equipment to teach a child so small. Do your homework on that one. Anyone who blurts out "no worries, I can do it", should be treated with a healthy degree of scepticism. Anyone teaching children should have a working with children permit and more importantly should be hesitant and cautious about teaching your son without a thorough briefing with the parents first.

Problem is, little kids can easily learn to kitesurf, they naturally adapt very quickly and can bu up and kiting in just a couple of lessons. BUT! The reason IKO and most teaching standards the world over only teach people over 12 yo, is that young children do not have the emotional maturity to handle a stressful situation on their own. A crashed kite that has a rear line caught around a wingtip and starts death looping in choppy waters could easily be the end of your boy.

Choose carefully

DM



I found the problem with a std bar is the fact that short arms can not reach the bar after they let go and also short arms can not reach the depower.
If you control where and when your kids kite, surf, skateboard, mountain bike ride, MX ride, horse ride, cross the road, snowboard, snow ski etc you won't have a problem. Put them out in 25 knots open ocean unsupervised on inappropriate gear and you probably will.

MDSXR6T
WA, 955 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 3:12PM
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How do you guys go with swimming and self rescue skills etc or is it a matter of light winds, lots of flotation and the right location?

My oldest is 3 1/2 and she's a lot more developed than most kids her age (able to indoor rock climb without assistance, ride a bike without training wheels, swimming lessons without floaties etc etc) but i couldn't imagine her kiting in 4 years time? But then again i don't think i know any 8-12y/o kids so i have NFI what they are capable of?

ActionSportsWA
WA, 642 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 3:44PM
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STELLA01 said..

ActionSportsWA said..
Hi Tommygun,

Best kite for the job is either an Ozone Uno 4m kite or an Ozone Alpha 6m. The bar is not a big deal, a 45cm Ozone bar will work fine as the depower throw on small kites like that is really short in any case. They fly well in very light winds.

The ION Ripper harness in XXS is excellent and very cheap. Finding a board with small enough footstraps will be the issue. Any of the 128cm Soliel North/Duotone boards with the SMall NTT straps will work a treat. The board is the easiest problem to get around initially.

The hard part is finding an instructor with the credentials and equipment to teach a child so small. Do your homework on that one. Anyone who blurts out "no worries, I can do it", should be treated with a healthy degree of scepticism. Anyone teaching children should have a working with children permit and more importantly should be hesitant and cautious about teaching your son without a thorough briefing with the parents first.

Problem is, little kids can easily learn to kitesurf, they naturally adapt very quickly and can bu up and kiting in just a couple of lessons. BUT! The reason IKO and most teaching standards the world over only teach people over 12 yo, is that young children do not have the emotional maturity to handle a stressful situation on their own. A crashed kite that has a rear line caught around a wingtip and starts death looping in choppy waters could easily be the end of your boy.

Choose carefully

DM




I found the problem with a std bar is the fact that short arms can not reach the bar after they let go and also short arms can not reach the depower.
If you control where and when your kids kite, surf, skateboard, mountain bike ride, MX ride, horse ride, cross the road, snowboard, snow ski etc you won't have a problem. Put them out in 25 knots open ocean unsupervised on inappropriate gear and you probably will.


Most bars we would sell someone short in stature would have either a sliding stopper or we would recommend a click bar. The trim is the least of their worries. The depower throw is so short, any stopper set at areach where they can grab it, will still completely depower the kite. I think you are missing the point of my post. I have two daughters myself and I wouldn't have taught them kiting until they reached at the very least 10 years of age. There is no shallow water where I am, so choppy deep water is an issue which creates stress if it goes anything but according to plan.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but as a professional school employing professional instructors, we would be in the firing line of any parent should an accident occur with little Johnnys lesson. We would speak with the parent making sure they completely understand the full extent of what can go wrong and the potential danger they are putting their child in, and would integrate them into the lesson too.

Teaching your own child is one thing, taking professional responsibility of someone elses child whilst teaching them an extreme sport is a completely different matter and a lawyers wet dream.

I know as an adult when being attached to a death looping kite, I have been rattled. Our excellent safety record is from not leaving things to chance or playing a rogues game.

DM

STELLA01
WA, 122 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 5:06PM
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ActionSportsWA said..

STELLA01 said..


ActionSportsWA said..
Hi Tommygun,

Best kite for the job is either an Ozone Uno 4m kite or an Ozone Alpha 6m. The bar is not a big deal, a 45cm Ozone bar will work fine as the depower throw on small kites like that is really short in any case. They fly well in very light winds.

The ION Ripper harness in XXS is excellent and very cheap. Finding a board with small enough footstraps will be the issue. Any of the 128cm Soliel North/Duotone boards with the SMall NTT straps will work a treat. The board is the easiest problem to get around initially.

The hard part is finding an instructor with the credentials and equipment to teach a child so small. Do your homework on that one. Anyone who blurts out "no worries, I can do it", should be treated with a healthy degree of scepticism. Anyone teaching children should have a working with children permit and more importantly should be hesitant and cautious about teaching your son without a thorough briefing with the parents first.

Problem is, little kids can easily learn to kitesurf, they naturally adapt very quickly and can bu up and kiting in just a couple of lessons. BUT! The reason IKO and most teaching standards the world over only teach people over 12 yo, is that young children do not have the emotional maturity to handle a stressful situation on their own. A crashed kite that has a rear line caught around a wingtip and starts death looping in choppy waters could easily be the end of your boy.

Choose carefully

DM





I found the problem with a std bar is the fact that short arms can not reach the bar after they let go and also short arms can not reach the depower.
If you control where and when your kids kite, surf, skateboard, mountain bike ride, MX ride, horse ride, cross the road, snowboard, snow ski etc you won't have a problem. Put them out in 25 knots open ocean unsupervised on inappropriate gear and you probably will.



Most bars we would sell someone short in stature would have either a sliding stopper or we would recommend a click bar. The trim is the least of their worries. The depower throw is so short, any stopper set at areach where they can grab it, will still completely depower the kite. I think you are missing the point of my post. I have two daughters myself and I wouldn't have taught them kiting until they reached at the very least 10 years of age. There is no shallow water where I am, so choppy deep water is an issue which creates stress if it goes anything but according to plan.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but as a professional school employing professional instructors, we would be in the firing line of any parent should an accident occur with little Johnnys lesson. We would speak with the parent making sure they completely understand the full extent of what can go wrong and the potential danger they are putting their child in, and would integrate them into the lesson too.

Teaching your own child is one thing, taking professional responsibility of someone elses child whilst teaching them an extreme sport is a completely different matter and a lawyers wet dream.

I know as an adult when being attached to a death looping kite, I have been rattled. Our excellent safety record is from not leaving things to chance or playing a rogues game.

DM


Nobody asked you to teach their kid this thread is not about the safety cridentials of your business it is about recieving advice from parents that have been there.

Gateman
QLD, 227 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 7:14PM
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I am fortunate to have a great spot for learning that is knee to thigh deep for 300 plus meters. Started my boys 2 years ago on a 1m two line foil kite with a bar, told them I would buy a "real" kite when they could both fly it for 15 minutes without crashing. Month later, bought a 5m Cabrinha Radar with the recoil bar that helps keep the bar within reach. Initially on XS and XXS waist harnesses but ended up with seat harness in same sizes. Just better at keeping bar closer for slim bodies with short arms. 8 year old small for his size and was getting lifted by 5m kite at 12 o'clock in 16 knots so added a 3.5m Cab Radar and shortened the lines to 15m. Shortening lines made the 3.5m less twitchy and more manageable for youngest.
By the next season, oldest was just doing water starts, gets going 20-60m then looses control and crashes. At this point I booked him in for a 2hr lesson with great instructor that has taught a few kids. Using radio helmet, Gearge had him staying upwind and doing simple transitions by the end of the lesson.
This season I added a 7m Drifter to the quiver which oldest (now 12) has used a few times in lighter winds but is keen to get out in some windier sessions.
As a side note: I've had both kids at the cable park over the last two seasons when it wasn't windy and both could ride either foot forward and edge before they even tried water starts.

cauncy
WA, 6826 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 5:41PM
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STELLA01 said..

ActionSportsWA said..


STELLA01 said..



ActionSportsWA said..
Hi Tommygun,

Best kite for the job is either an Ozone Uno 4m kite or an Ozone Alpha 6m. The bar is not a big deal, a 45cm Ozone bar will work fine as the depower throw on small kites like that is really short in any case. They fly well in very light winds.

The ION Ripper harness in XXS is excellent and very cheap. Finding a board with small enough footstraps will be the issue. Any of the 128cm Soliel North/Duotone boards with the SMall NTT straps will work a treat. The board is the easiest problem to get around initially.

The hard part is finding an instructor with the credentials and equipment to teach a child so small. Do your homework on that one. Anyone who blurts out "no worries, I can do it", should be treated with a healthy degree of scepticism. Anyone teaching children should have a working with children permit and more importantly should be hesitant and cautious about teaching your son without a thorough briefing with the parents first.

Problem is, little kids can easily learn to kitesurf, they naturally adapt very quickly and can bu up and kiting in just a couple of lessons. BUT! The reason IKO and most teaching standards the world over only teach people over 12 yo, is that young children do not have the emotional maturity to handle a stressful situation on their own. A crashed kite that has a rear line caught around a wingtip and starts death looping in choppy waters could easily be the end of your boy.

Choose carefully

DM






I found the problem with a std bar is the fact that short arms can not reach the bar after they let go and also short arms can not reach the depower.
If you control where and when your kids kite, surf, skateboard, mountain bike ride, MX ride, horse ride, cross the road, snowboard, snow ski etc you won't have a problem. Put them out in 25 knots open ocean unsupervised on inappropriate gear and you probably will.




Most bars we would sell someone short in stature would have either a sliding stopper or we would recommend a click bar. The trim is the least of their worries. The depower throw is so short, any stopper set at areach where they can grab it, will still completely depower the kite. I think you are missing the point of my post. I have two daughters myself and I wouldn't have taught them kiting until they reached at the very least 10 years of age. There is no shallow water where I am, so choppy deep water is an issue which creates stress if it goes anything but according to plan.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but as a professional school employing professional instructors, we would be in the firing line of any parent should an accident occur with little Johnnys lesson. We would speak with the parent making sure they completely understand the full extent of what can go wrong and the potential danger they are putting their child in, and would integrate them into the lesson too.

Teaching your own child is one thing, taking professional responsibility of someone elses child whilst teaching them an extreme sport is a completely different matter and a lawyers wet dream.

I know as an adult when being attached to a death looping kite, I have been rattled. Our excellent safety record is from not leaving things to chance or playing a rogues game.

DM



Nobody asked you to teach their kid this thread is not about the safety cridentials of your business it is about recieving advice from parents that have been there.

But worth the read from a professional schools point of view and how they see it

Gateman
QLD, 227 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 7:42PM
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Adding to the above, I have a few points I think are important when teaching your own kids:
Most important: Kids get bored easily! If you try spend hours teaching self rescue, how to set up and connect lines, kite care and packup etc before they even allowed to try the board then they will loose interest.
I have taught mine the most important things: if you feel uncomfortable: pull your safety!
If you crash: Let go the bar!
Note that in the above post, I have already mentioned I have the luxury of a perfect learning spot and they can stand up at all times.
At the moment, we kite together and use the standard signals drilled into them over 6 years of Nippers for "I need help" or "Come to me"
There will come a time in the next few years when they will want to hit the waves or go out kiting with friends. That is the time to go: "Sure buddy, as soon as you can demonstrate self rescue, proper setup etc"
Untill then, we, as responsible parents do the hard yards (setting up, packing down, maintaining 3 sets of gear), keep an eye on our kids and bail them out when they need it.
This will be a similar analogy across most sports: your 10 year old doesn't change the oil in his MX bike, grease the bearings on his BMX, check tyre pressures etc until they are older. Until then, we are the "supervisors" and responsible for all that stuff, let them be kids and enjoy the stoke as long as they know how to pull the safety, hit the brakes, stop moving forward, it's all part of learning

AquaPlow
QLD, 702 posts
Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 7:44PM
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STELLA01 said..

ActionSportsWA said..


STELLA01 said..



ActionSportsWA said..
Hi Tommygun,

Best kite for the job is either an Ozone Uno 4m kite or an Ozone Alpha 6m. The bar is not a big deal, a 45cm Ozone bar will work fine as the depower throw on small kites like that is really short in any case. They fly well in very light winds.

The ION Ripper harness in XXS is excellent and very cheap. Finding a board with small enough footstraps will be the issue. Any of the 128cm Soliel North/Duotone boards with the SMall NTT straps will work a treat. The board is the easiest problem to get around initially.

The hard part is finding an instructor with the credentials and equipment to teach a child so small. Do your homework on that one. Anyone who blurts out "no worries, I can do it", should be treated with a healthy degree of scepticism. Anyone teaching children should have a working with children permit and more importantly should be hesitant and cautious about teaching your son without a thorough briefing with the parents first.

Problem is, little kids can easily learn to kitesurf, they naturally adapt very quickly and can bu up and kiting in just a couple of lessons. BUT! The reason IKO and most teaching standards the world over only teach people over 12 yo, is that young children do not have the emotional maturity to handle a stressful situation on their own. A crashed kite that has a rear line caught around a wingtip and starts death looping in choppy waters could easily be the end of your boy.

Choose carefully

DM






I found the problem with a std bar is the fact that short arms can not reach the bar after they let go and also short arms can not reach the depower.
If you control where and when your kids kite, surf, skateboard, mountain bike ride, MX ride, horse ride, cross the road, snowboard, snow ski etc you won't have a problem. Put them out in 25 knots open ocean unsupervised on inappropriate gear and you probably will.




Most bars we would sell someone short in stature would have either a sliding stopper or we would recommend a click bar. The trim is the least of their worries. The depower throw is so short, any stopper set at areach where they can grab it, will still completely depower the kite. I think you are missing the point of my post. I have two daughters myself and I wouldn't have taught them kiting until they reached at the very least 10 years of age. There is no shallow water where I am, so choppy deep water is an issue which creates stress if it goes anything but according to plan.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but as a professional school employing professional instructors, we would be in the firing line of any parent should an accident occur with little Johnnys lesson. We would speak with the parent making sure they completely understand the full extent of what can go wrong and the potential danger they are putting their child in, and would integrate them into the lesson too.

Teaching your own child is one thing, taking professional responsibility of someone elses child whilst teaching them an extreme sport is a completely different matter and a lawyers wet dream.

I know as an adult when being attached to a death looping kite, I have been rattled. Our excellent safety record is from not leaving things to chance or playing a rogues game.

DM



Nobody asked you to teach their kid this thread is not about the safety cridentials of your business it is about recieving advice from parents that have been there.


I normally would be 100% with DM's opinions but this time 100% with Stella01 Gateman and the others...
I used George to tidy up on lake Weyba.. but what was a real game changer from standard + youthful enthusiasm progression line - was a holiday program run by Mike at Kitethrills Caloundra called Gromfest.. so an intro'3 day learn to kite program with an advanced section too (run over a few years).. Fantastic..So any kite shop owners with training program ....think about it..3 days generating future clients g8 product..
Two of my kids went through on different programs. The first lucked out with Andy Yates - world champ recovering from surgery on his shoulder at the time - except.. he left boring old dad for dead

The take home from this is the kite control system = the bar and what it is meant to do is the key to a kid's safety and confidence.
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AP

cauncy
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Wednesday , 13 Feb 2019 5:46PM
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kiteboardingwa.org.au/kite-karnival-2019/competitor-profiles/

Davi should come compete against our WA juniors Anthony,Patrick and Nathan will teach him a few moves, it was nice to see the turnout at the Nationals the kids had so much fun. the future of any sport is in the development programs

Cauncy I hope you are ready for the grom attack at the Midwest Windfest in November


We're really gonna focus on this, also girls , had a meeting already last week, I'll need a hand this year as we will be looking to improve certain aspects as mentioned, yep great to see local kids and wa kids going well, a big high 5 to KWA team looked a great event down there



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