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sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
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WA, 368 posts
2 Apr 2009 10:35pm
KitingCasey said...

groper that was so unbelievably ** i know you tried so hard to make people laugh but youve horribly failed.....i


Laugh ? You got that wrong, sunshine.
Kadkhah
Kadkhah
WA
381 posts
WA, 381 posts
2 Apr 2009 10:43pm
sandgroper said...

THE DOCTOR IS [IN]
Ok, he seems like a clinical egomaniac ...


Nice and technical comment.
How ever we all like to be admired, look at your comment, you like to be admired for your professional respond.
Alex Sans profession is kiteing, it is his right to be here and talk without getting his name spelled in shuffle.
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
2 Apr 2009 10:58pm
Kadkhah said...

sandgroper said...

THE DOCTOR IS [IN]
Ok, he seems like a clinical egomaniac ...


Nice and technical comment.
How ever we all like to be admired, look at your comment, you like to be admired for your professional respond.
Alex Sans profession is kiteing, it is his right to be here and talk without getting his name spelled in shuffle.



Ahhhh - bollocks. I'm going to bed. Good nite Alex!

fozzy
fozzy
SA
501 posts
SA, 501 posts
3 Apr 2009 8:32am
Rowdy, pretty surprised you've thrown some support his way bro, nothing legit about this bloke and you should know I'm not taking the piss here. Still, everyone entitled to their own opinion.

KitingCasey, whereas you took Gropers comments as an attempt at humour I in fact took it as a very accurate summation of this bloke.

And Kadkhah, whilst you think I and others are bullies you appear to me to be very nieve. If you believe that this thinly veiled post is really about Saving the Planet then I don't really know what to say. It is nothing more than another post screaming "Look at me, look at me!"

I don't know the guy personally either, but I do know that in his 42 posts now there has not been one that hasn't been about himself. Christ, it took at least half of those before he started threads that weren't his own name. You don't have to delve too deep to see this guy for what he is. Look at his vids on youtube, skiting I believe he calls it through crowds on Bondi. Apparently noone ever complains though, only kiters. Well, I would be interested to know how he would even know this. He knows kiters complain because he comes here and gives them the opportunity to voice their disdain. Tell me where the person that was out walking and nearly had their head taken off by some strawb on a kite and half a skateboard under each foot goes to complain in any case.

There have been other posts that have dealt with this and whilst I don't personally know Smedg, he has contributed enough for me to form the opinion that he is a reasonable and intelligent bloke that actually has something to contribute. That being said, perhaps you should read some of what he has to say on Alex Sanz and his, what did you call it, his 'profession' and see how his professional approach has impacted on some beaches on the east coast.

This bloke is a narcisist and even when writing this I know that it will only serve to inflate his already large ego. Attention, positive or negative is what he thrives on and he gets it by the bucket load here.

There you go. Long winded post = Yes. Worthwhile = probably not.

And with that, a self imposed ban on any future posts by Alex Sanz commences.
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
3 Apr 2009 10:47am
Maximum said...

Save the planet what a joke concept!
Make up your own mind the scientific jury is still out on this issue

www.thetimes.co.uk/

More unemotional facts here

gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/9/24/112556/658

maybe not the saver some yankers believe

www.nytimes.com/2008/02/08/science/earth/08wbiofuels.html

From the treehugger blog

www.treehugger.com/files/2008/07/lowering-energy-consumption-better-than-biofuels-emissions-reductions.php

Lets face it the same lies we get told about petroleum will be told about bio fuel because there are mega bucks in it
people have to get out of cars and ride and walk more they need to stop living on 1/4 acre lots and in high density housing units instead public trasnport needs to be used more etc etc etc

Alex like so many other people exploit the emotional value of the "planet saving" bio fuel alternative for their own commercial needs
Did anyone notice that Richard Branson the big promoter of "green" in his airline and in so many of his other businesses also races forumla 1 cars now what a joke just like Alex
Its all about money and in Alex's case attention and money

Imax



Just so you know Australia is developing some top secret native trees that are also salt resistent that have a very high yeild of oil. They want use them to try to fix the salt problem in WA .

But whats happening with bio fuels in Asia is horrible, I never wanted it to go that way. Alge is the best solution for our fuel needs.

boring I know but I was a pioneer of bio fuels in Australia I'm very well known in this area.

Not just a kitesurfer
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
3 Apr 2009 10:55am
I suspect you where the pioneer of pioneering itself....
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
3 Apr 2009 10:58am
[ I personally feel somewhat sorry for him, because he seems completely incapable of accepting any constructive criticism or correction. (Dr S. Groper)

it's all I get on this forum. I don't think I'm better than anyone I just want to teach what I have learnt in over 12 years of kitesports. It's just you that think I'm some how better. I have new sports!!! or are you blind to that???
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
3 Apr 2009 11:27am
Like I keep saying it's only about 5 people on the forums that give me **** and they don't even know me, I work it on %.

The thing is I have a very large group of kids that love what I have to offer and also a few newbies in kitsports as well.

you guys already know how to kitesurf why do you need me?? or what I have to say??

It's like I don't need you or what you have to say. I just have lots of kite content and if you don't want to watch it, Thats fine. I'll keep doing what I have been doing, that is upload to youtube and if you wqant to see it look there,!!!
I some how though you might find if entertaining ??

But like typical Aussie ( tall Poppy syndrome)

I'm just a passionate guy that loves life and living it my way not the way we have been told, is that so wrong in your culture??

I have also lived my life as green as I possibly can, bio fuels and before that I rode a pushbike instead of burning fossil fuel for over 20 years!!, been on solar power for the last 12 years and trying to develop alternative ways of personal transportation.

what have you done or doing??

Funny thing is I even videoed it all got some great stories, but you can only see it as self promotion, can't see the trees for the forest???
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
3 Apr 2009 10:41am
Alex sanz said...

Like I keep saying it's only about 5 people on the forums that give me **** and they don't even know me, I work it on %.

The thing is I have a very large group of kids that love what I have to offer and also a few newbies in kitsports as well.

you guys already know how to kitesurf why do you need me?? or what I have to say??

It's like I don't need you or what you have to say. I just have lots of kite content and if you don't want to watch it, Thats fine. I'll keep doing what I have been doing, that is upload to youtube and if you wqant to see it look there,!!!
I some how though you might find if entertaining ??

But like typical Aussie ( tall Poppy syndrome)

I'm just a passionate guy that loves life and living it my way not the way we have been told, is that so wrong in your culture??

I have also lived my life as green as I possibly can, bio fuels and before that I rode a pushbike instead of burning fossil fuel for over 20 years!!, been on solar power for the last 12 years and trying to develop alternative ways of personal transportation.

what have you done or doing??

Funny thing is I even videoed it all got some great stories, but you can only see it as self promotion, can't see the trees for the forest???





Maybe you should call your truck Neverland.
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
3 Apr 2009 12:06pm
Fair go you guys. Getting a bit personal here...

Write Alex a PM, or give him a phone call...

Back to kitesurfing...
marty72
marty72
QLD
298 posts
QLD, 298 posts
3 Apr 2009 1:56pm
"what have you done to save the planet???" Alex Sanz your a f...ing joke! Want to save the planet how about getting rid of that big fuel guzzling truck? Even though it runs on "bio fuel", I'd say about 20l/100km of it, thats still a **** load of pollution going into the air no matter where it comes from!
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
3 Apr 2009 6:21pm
Laurie... I think you do a great job of running the forums.

However, Everyone of Alex's treads reaks of self promoting advertising IMO. I always flag them as such but they remain anyway.

I have PM'ed Alex several times in an attempt to communicate issues in an appropriate and less public fashion than slanging on forums. However, His responses have ranged from "I'm not reading your essay, its too long. You must be jealous of me." (edited to be readable) To, "You talk about me so much, you must want my body" (also edited to make sense.)

Communicating issues I have regarding Alex's behaviours to Alex are of no avail IMO.

I see him as being bad for our sport via dangerous kiting behaviour and misrepresentation of our sport via telling lies to the public about kitesurfing in order to push his products.

Do you think his threads are self advertising. His business name and or videos and products are always mentioned. Even his Profile is advertising.

Let me know your thoughts here or via pm as you see fit.
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
3 Apr 2009 10:51pm
marty72 said...

"what have you done to save the planet???" Alex Sanz your a f...ing joke! Want to save the planet how about getting rid of that big fuel guzzling truck? Even though it runs on "bio fuel", I'd say about 20l/100km of it, thats still a **** load of pollution going into the air no matter where it comes from!


I have got rid of it for exactly the reasons you said .. I ride my freelines to the beach now and catch trains. Still doing my bit.

What do you drive???
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
3 Apr 2009 11:00pm
Smedg said...

Laurie... I think you do a great job of running the forums.

However, Everyone of Alex's treads reaks of self promoting advertising IMO. I always flag them as such but they remain anyway.

I have PM'ed Alex several times in an attempt to communicate issues in an appropriate and less public fashion than slanging on forums. However, His responses have ranged from "I'm not reading your essay, its too long. You must be jealous of me." (edited to be readable) To, "You talk about me so much, you must want my body" (also edited to make sense.)

Communicating issues I have regarding Alex's behaviours to Alex are of no avail IMO.

I see him as being bad for our sport via dangerous kiting behaviour and misrepresentation of our sport via telling lies to the public about kitesurfing in order to push his products.

Do you think his threads are self advertising. His business name and or videos and products are always mentioned. Even his Profile is advertising.

Let me know your thoughts here or via pm as you see fit.


Maybe if you paid for the lesson at Kirra you would have a different view of me.

I remember you now, You stuck to my side picking my brain for hours, I remember because I thought you where a bit strange. I think I felt sorry for you and you would not go away untill I gave you a fly of a kite.

next time pay for a lesson, and be amazed by what you might learn.

Sorry but I did think at the time you where a bit retarded< I know now that your not.
you didn't even annoying me then.

keep it up you make me laugh so much..

I really dig into you. fuel for my fire

Hausey
Hausey
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
3 Apr 2009 11:40pm


I have got rid of it for exactly the reasons you said .. I ride my freelines to the beach now and catch trains. Still doing my bit.




Yipeee! No truck! And there's no train to Byron anymore!

Keep doing your bit Alex - it's most entertaining!
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
3 Apr 2009 11:51pm


Alex, your post above confuses me and may confuse others as well. You may want to clarify which parts you mean or think are true and which parts you are making up or joking about if you want to make sure we know exactly what you are saying. (Although, I think I get the gist)

Remember though that, you only know that we've met because I reiterated our meeting (and all the lies you told me to push your products) in a pm to you after you claimed I don't know you.

Remember how I listed all the lies you told me about kitesurfing, listed all the unsafe things i've seen you do, then asked you to kite safely in future.

Perhaps you don't remember. Perhaps you really didn't read my Essay as you called it. Either way, I (and possibly many other kiters and the general public) would greatly appreciate it if you could do your best to kite in a safe way, not scare others and be careful to only give helpful and truthful advice about kitesurfing to others.

Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
7 Apr 2009 1:24am
Hausey said...



Yipeee! No truck! And there's no train to Byron anymore!

Keep doing your bit Alex - it's most entertaining!



you noticed the rain thing too???
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
7 Apr 2009 1:35am
Smedg said...



Alex, your post above confuses me and may confuse others as well. You may want to clarify which parts you mean or think are true and which parts you are making up or joking about if you want to make sure we know exactly what you are saying. (Although, I think I get the gist)

Remember though that, you only know that we've met because I reiterated our meeting (and all the lies you told me to push your products) in a pm to you after you claimed I don't know you.

Remember how I listed all the lies you told me about kitesurfing, listed all the unsafe things i've seen you do, then asked you to kite safely in future.

Perhaps you don't remember. Perhaps you really didn't read my Essay as you called it. Either way, I (and possibly many other kiters and the general public) would greatly appreciate it if you could do your best to kite in a safe way, not scare others and be careful to only give helpful and truthful advice about kitesurfing to others.


your such an expert !! how many years have you been teaching or kiting ??

You don't get it !! the way kitesurfing has been taught is so dangerous and it has to change !!

I believe kitesports method of teaching is the only way for the sport to move forward.



You are going to be horrified by my next upload.

the duke of dork
the duke of dork
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
7 Apr 2009 10:25am
mmm the excitement!! can hardly wait! Alex you put the "F"un in Forum
Alex sanz
Alex sanz
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
7 Apr 2009 12:59pm
H much fun can you have in no fins



It was my fault he got hit by the kite. OK ?? I understand now..
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