I have a 14mt Sonic and I can ride it from 12knts - 30knts (15-20knts prefered)on an airush exile 135x47 and Im 75-80kgs.

I dont know about the rebel but the sonic has great range. I know guys that are your weight with an 11mtr Sonic and 2 boards.

Good luck with your decision

hello,

the fact that the north is a mix seems better to me and also that you do not need a special bar for it.

how is the 14 sonic ? the shop here told me not to bother because it is not good for a big kite.

is the 8 better than the 11 ?

thanks

marc-a.

the new rebel is quite cheap compare to the vegas or last year prices.
if you take it without bar, the 7 is around aud 1000.--
and the 12 1200.-- (european price of course)
maybe north understand that kites are too expensive because the market
is very bad for second hand.

marc-a.

14 sonic is pretty sick for a big kite.

It will actually throw you up high not like the 16m crossbow which will lift u 2 foot off the water

Super stable.

a little slow for a 14, but nothing short of a 18m+ c kite will touch it.



11 and 8 are mad also. Go second hand or wait a while like tobes says.

It depends on what kind of conditions you're expecting. I weigh 70kg and spent last season on an 11m sonic. There weren't too many days that were kiteable that I couldn't have ridden the 11. The wind range is excellent and once you learn how to fly the kite differently to a C kite you can get even more range out of it.
If I were buying another kite I'd go for the 8 instead of the 14. Somewhere above 25kts the 11m becomes a little too much. Its still flies fine but I know that its too much kite to have up in that weather. I'd really like to get another kite that could see me get up to over 30kts and down to high teens. Based on my experience with the 11m I think the sonic 8 could probably do that.

I've had no problems with the build quality of the sonic.

I can't comment on the rebels as I've never even seen one.

Buying second hand will save plenty of dosh and I would have done it except that when I bought mine (Nov 2005) there weren't any on the market!

mate if he went straight out and built a flat kite with 5 lines, dont you reckon he would have released it in 2005 after the crossbow like with all the other companies did each with their own contribution to the pattern?
Are your morals that high that you would look past a quality kite because some bloke who you're (probaly) never met said he wouldn't build a bow kite??

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Originally posted by kiterdan

mate if he went straight out and built a flat kite with 5 lines, dont you reckon he would have released it in 2005 after the crossbow like with all the other companies did each with their own contribution to the pattern?

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Nup. He was too busy telling the whole world how the whole flat kite idea was fundamentally flawed and would never work.

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Originally posted by kiterdan

Are your morals that high that you would look past a quality kite because some bloke who you're (probaly) never met said he wouldn't build a bow kite??

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It's got nothing to do with morals. I don't like 5 line systems because I think they are too complicated and the other flat kites work so well. The Sonic in particular works extremely well and is way cheaper than the name brands like North, Slingshot, Cabrinha etc.