strapless surfboard kiting wax issues

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Surfy31
Surfy31
WA
198 posts
WA, 198 posts
14 Mar 2011 8:07pm
after every kite i have i find a perfect circle of wax been pushed away from where i ride with my front foot. I asked one of the bws riders once and he said use "Far King" wax. so i did, i scraped the old wax off put a new layer of far king wax on and same issue.

i know i could go and stick on a sheet of deck grip but id rather not: it looks too old skool

anyone found another solution?
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
14 Mar 2011 11:10pm
How funny, deck grip is too old skool.
Kids nowadays
Lol
doonut
doonut
WA
265 posts
WA, 265 posts
14 Mar 2011 8:15pm
try a harder wax (cold water wax) mabye
kitecroc
kitecroc
SA
513 posts
SA, 513 posts
14 Mar 2011 10:52pm
I have tried the Bali brew followed by the cold water wax and after a long session you still get the same problem. Now a carry a small wax comb in one sleeve of my wetty and a small block of wax in the other. I then rewax as needed during my session out the back between sets . If you find a better solution can you let me know.

Cheers Croc :-)
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
WA, 1588 posts
14 Mar 2011 8:49pm
you need to wax every sesh
if you are riding for many hrs keep a bit of wax in your boardshorts
ok
ok
NSW
1089 posts
ok ok
NSW, 1089 posts
15 Mar 2011 3:47am
When ur on ur tack out change the position of your foot to try n preserve where u want the wax for when ur actually on the board doing turns n tricks!
CarlBevo
CarlBevo
NSW
609 posts
NSW, 609 posts
15 Mar 2011 10:18am
I used to deal with this then I just put deck grip on

to give it a go

it feels rank for about 1-2 sessions

then you will never go back to wax as it works so well

dont worry about the cool police

wax really is a pain in the a$$ in so many ways and deck grip is actually equal too

or maybe greater in terms of grip try it

I would still only ever use wax for surfing though
taxi
taxi
QLD
416 posts
QLD, 416 posts
15 Mar 2011 9:29am
Keep moving your foot around to different spots as the waxs warms under foot , or just get deck grip best option never any slip issues even when the ocean gets soapy at times
. Pluse it saves the deck on your board heaps.

rez
rez
WA
354 posts
rez rez
WA, 354 posts
15 Mar 2011 8:28am
There is nothing more annoying than when you get caught with a smooth board mid session eh! I also don't think there is much you can do to stop the wax being pushed off your board.

Most longer sessions I will end up stopping way out the back where I will float and do a super quick re wax on the heel spots. Other guys rather do it on the beach. Either way it's a pretty painless solution. So as a couple of others have mentioned;

1) Take a small lump of your wax (& comb if you like) with you in your pocket and re wax when needed.

2) The water is warmer than past summers at the moment so you might want to try a wax suited to the warmer waters.

Haven't tried the deck grip before??? Guess it depends if your board doubles as your usual surfboard or not. I've just got the one so sticking to wax.




wal269
wal269
WA
718 posts
WA, 718 posts
15 Mar 2011 10:36am
Ear wax
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
15 Mar 2011 10:41am
CarlBevo said...

I used to deal with this then I just put deck grip on

to give it a go

it feels rank for about 1-2 sessions

then you will never go back to wax as it works so well

dont worry about the cool police

wax really is a pain in the a$$ in so many ways and deck grip is actually equal too

or maybe greater in terms of grip try it

I would still only ever use wax for surfing though


Yep totally agree Bevo, I cut down a tail pad and stuck it on to get a bit better grip just for the Lighthouse to Leighton...... and never got around to taking it off.

Yeah it feels weird at first but you get used to it.

I often have 3hr+ sessions and used to hate always having that smooth spot after an hour or so.

If i was trying to use the board for surfing and kiting I would stick to wax but I have given up trying to do both on the one board, so deck grip it is for me, anyone that has seen me kiting in my bucket hat knows I don't give a damn about the cool police.
Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
15 Mar 2011 1:44pm
taj burrow mentioned that he waxes the bottom of his feet before a heat to stay ...must be hell walking across the hot sand
Surfy31
Surfy31
WA
198 posts
WA, 198 posts
15 Mar 2011 10:59am
Yeah a grip would be ideal but it is my paddle surfboard too :(
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
15 Mar 2011 11:34am
In that case you just have to learn to live with it I think.
You can start by putting a base coat of really hard wax then put some softer grippier stuff on top but for long sessions you will still need to carry wax and a wax comb.
high as a kite
high as a kite
SA
1312 posts
SA, 1312 posts
15 Mar 2011 2:21pm
kitecroc said...

I have tried the Bali brew followed by the cold water wax and after a long session you still get the same problem. Now a carry a small wax comb in one sleeve of my wetty and a small block of wax in the other. I then rewax as needed during my session out the back between sets . If you find a better solution can you let me know.

Cheers Croc :-)


Me thinks it for ya hair croc
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
15 Mar 2011 12:18pm
Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but do you move your feet out of the desired position when just riding around? For example when I'm not riding waves I move my feet to other locations on the board. I really don't ever have a problem with wax bunching up or coming off and I hardly ever re-wax my board... Maybe this is why?
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
15 Mar 2011 3:49pm
HTFU and skip the wax
Surfy31
Surfy31
WA
198 posts
WA, 198 posts
15 Mar 2011 1:28pm
sir ROWDY said...

Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but do you move your feet out of the desired position when just riding around? For example when I'm not riding waves I move my feet to other locations on the board. I really don't ever have a problem with wax bunching up or coming off and I hardly ever re-wax my board... Maybe this is why?


When I'm cruising out past the waves I'm riding heel side, the wax isn't an issue. It's only coming in on my toeside going up wind I can't put my foot in any other position to get my balance perfect. This also happens to be the same spot I use when doing turns and airs
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
15 Mar 2011 7:20pm
ride in switch heelside then change once on wave?...
Surfy31
Surfy31
WA
198 posts
WA, 198 posts
15 Mar 2011 9:51pm
Never learnt how to ride switch. I have been kiting for 4'months and learnt on a surfboard with straps. Surfed all my life riding natural stance.

I may need to learn as that would solve the issue!
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
16 Mar 2011 12:43am
Surfy31 said...

Never learnt how to ride switch. I have been kiting for 4'months and learnt on a surfboard with straps. Surfed all my life riding natural stance.

I may need to learn as that would solve the issue!


Could be a goer.
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
16 Mar 2011 8:49am
If you have/can borrow a twin tip. use that to practice heal side for a session or two. You will progress much quicker, then can switch back to your shortboard once you get the hang of it.
siny
siny
NSW
287 posts
NSW, 287 posts
16 Mar 2011 11:42am
i put a stomp pad on backwards where my front foot goes . the raised bit is good when cruising back up wind and also when jumping you can push forward on it
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
16 Mar 2011 11:49am
Booties give decent grip even on a clean deck.
taxi
taxi
QLD
416 posts
QLD, 416 posts
16 Mar 2011 12:14pm
Switch surfing is all wrong to me, it's just feels f#%# up!
40 years surfing natural can't change.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
16 Mar 2011 3:48pm
sir ROWDY said...

Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but do you move your feet out of the desired position when just riding around? For example when I'm not riding waves I move my feet to other locations on the board. I really don't ever have a problem with wax bunching up or coming off and I hardly ever re-wax my board... Maybe this is why?


I'm the opposite-move my feet heaps when riding and tend to lock em' in when punting back up wind.

I use a tail pad and super hard Sex Wax for the rest and use a wax comb or a shell or the like on the beach to rough it up. Was still gets flat and soft on a long session-especially in Indo in warm water.
Surfy31
Surfy31
WA
198 posts
WA, 198 posts
16 Mar 2011 1:46pm
Gale to hear I'm not the only one with this issue.
1. I don't wanna waste one minute of perfect wind trying to ride switch.
2. A tail pad for my front foot would be ideal for kiting, although no good when paddling into waves
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