tendinitis from Kitesurfing....what shall I do??

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Philis
Philis
33 posts
33 posts
6 Oct 2008 10:41am
Hi everybody,
I got this problem already at my Kite beginner course I did in Italy, it is a pain at the arch (dorsum of the food) to the lower part of my shin (foreside). At that time I thought it was caused by my flip-flops (mad a 30 km walk with them) but now I bought a Kite equipment in Australia, started last weekend, was not much on the board (as I said I am a beginner) but got already exactly that pain of a tendinitis.
Does someone now if I do something wrong?
Had anyone the same problem?
Is there any cutie trick in behaviour to keep this pain away from me? (Maybe I contract my toe extensor muscle to much because I am afraid to loos the board?
Please do not made some Diagnoses, because it is already diagnosed by an expert, maybe some of you could help me to give me some helpful tips?
I would like to train today again, but the last time I got his pain I had to stop all sports activity for more than one month and I want to make sure, that this doesn’t happened again!
I hope there some people at sea breeze they are able to help me!
Cheers Philipp
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
6 Oct 2008 2:12pm
It may be something to do with pulling your toes up to try keep the board on. When I do this is also kills my muscles in my shin.

Try alternatives like:

1. Tightening the straps more
2. Making a conscious effort to lift the arch of your foot to get more grip, rather than lifting your toes.
3. Try heel straps or bindings to see if they help.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
6 Oct 2008 2:15pm
HTFU

i wake up every morning from pain resultant from kitesurfing .I find eating gravel for breakfast takes my mind off the other pain
Juddy
Juddy
WA
1103 posts
WA, 1103 posts
6 Oct 2008 12:27pm
Of course, if gravel breakfast isn't your thing, try VOLTAREN capsules.

I might not be sh!tting pea sized rocks like Mr Float, but these puppies work for me...
Philis
Philis
33 posts
33 posts
6 Oct 2008 1:28pm
voltaren just press the inflammation process down, but the inflammation is to hard to go Kite surfing, I want to treat the reason for that pain and I don’t want to treat just the symptoms....beside that at the moment I take 150 mg Voltaren a day, because of the inflammation and I don’t want to get some adhesion of my tendons, but not to go Kite surfing!
The first three tips where not so bad, but iam not quit sure if bindings a good for a beginner....
and thanks I eat gravel every day for breakfast *lol*
whatthe
whatthe
WA
186 posts
WA, 186 posts
6 Oct 2008 1:34pm
If the gravel doesn't help, try a teaspoon of cement sprinkled over your wheaties.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
NSW
2528 posts
NSW, 2528 posts
6 Oct 2008 4:53pm
Try a different set of foot pads

tightening the straps may help as well. Or just don't flex your toes, relax just do it.....
stompinlife
stompinlife
NT
22 posts
NT, 22 posts
6 Oct 2008 3:29pm
try a wider stance.. i have chonic compartment syndrome.. i went to a wider stance and it helped.
Philis
Philis
33 posts
33 posts
6 Oct 2008 2:08pm
I had the pain at the Kit school with the Liquid force luxury pads and now I drive an underground board with the underground pads and the pain is absolutely the same.......
Relax is maybe the best answer, but I doing it unwittingly so perhaps it is more difficult to change something.
I will try a wider stance maybe that helps.

Miss Jessie
Miss Jessie
NSW
181 posts
NSW, 181 posts
6 Oct 2008 5:35pm
ok... this is something i've got some personal experience on-but not from kiting-so i can only give basic info on corrective methods for your kiting. Yep flick thoes thongs-get yours self some burkinstocks(cost about $100, but i've had my house ones for 5years so good quality) if you want to walk heaps in open shoes. (otherwise good shoes and Thick socks!)

Firstly you have to get off that foot/feet for 6 weeks, (see your phisio about sports that do not agrivate). (trust me you'll feel it everytime you do a sport that strains that spot. I had tendernitus in my wrist and didn't rest it, and everytime i play racket sport i'm in pain for the next week-spose that's the end of me becoming the next Williams!! and this is 5yrs on!). My foot which had tendernitus-i took 6weeks off and just stuck to doing weights and stationary bike and cant even remember which bloody foot it was. So yeah 6 weeks off it plus nurofen tablets full time for 2 weeks, plus voltaren cream cream every night before you go to bed for 6 weeks and then every time you use it thereafter for a few months-plus a massage(get in there with your fingers when your watching tv!). Make sure you dont have any back problems as these will increase the healing time. (ie if your back is out your putting strain on your foot anyway).

Ok so to prevent it in future. STRETCH!! stretch your foot out, pull the toes back and massage into the soul before kiting... see your phisio for further info, mine was in the joints to my toes so i cant tell you further. an aws phisio is bodywise in clarmont (if your in perth) and ask for doug. (he had me kiting in 2-3 weeks when i put my neck out and had nerve damage in my shoulders from a bad kite unintenional jump in the water). The guy who was on about not pulling your toes up and widening the stance and tightening the straps would lessen the strain defenitaly seems onto something.

If you cant sit on your ass for 6weeks (i kno the summer season is starting) then tape the foot and arch, and toe to a straight point and avoid lifting the toe... but trust me its probably not worth the problems you may get in the future.

I kno this is a massive blog but hopefully it'll help u. I kno there's not a lot of info out there
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
6 Oct 2008 5:51pm
Glucosamine chondroitin with msm...available at health food stores.

I took this stuff and was playing sport 5 nights a week and rugby on Saturday until I turned 40. It's magic.
mytchook
mytchook
QLD
561 posts
QLD, 561 posts
6 Oct 2008 6:00pm
Bigwavedave said...

Glucosamine chondroitin with msm...available at health food stores.

I took this stuff and was playing sport 5 nights a week and rugby on Saturday until I turned 40. It's magic.


Do what Dave said...... Geez you don't look 40 Dave!!!!
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
6 Oct 2008 7:03pm
until he turned forty, then he grew big man titties and took to calling himself bigwavedarleen..<--this one means i'm kidding right..?
Aiolus
Aiolus
NSW
102 posts
NSW, 102 posts
6 Oct 2008 8:13pm
It sounds like you have "shin splints" ..... you probably got them from walking so far in your thongs when your muscles were not used to them and kitesurfing is aggravating it
.. they can take a long time to heal.

Try a google search on how to treat and how to prevent or checkout this link
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_splints
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
6 Oct 2008 9:45pm
how long you been up and riding on the board for? If its just something you are doing to try keep the board on your feet and you don't want to try binding yet why not try a strapless surf board. I think its great to try ride a surf board early on. even on flat water. its super easy to get up and riding. I found it fun when learning even having not surfed before. hope it works out for you.
hunter074
hunter074
QLD
69 posts
QLD, 69 posts
6 Oct 2008 8:48pm
Had a similar condition when I was in the army 10 years ago.

Get a mirror and place it on the ground against a wall.
Stand 2-3 feet in front of mirror facing away from it with your feet slightly apart.
Look back over your shoulder at your feet. It may look like your feet/ankles are falling in/bending in. Thats called pronation. It will cause all sorts of issues from sore heels, arch pain, calf pain, shin pain, knee pain, quad pain and lower back issues.

Do some research and find a real good podiatrist. I say this because there are some quacks out there who just want your money. Maybe try a cheap alternative first by buying some shoe inserts (orthotics) from a pharmacy.

In the meantime, stretch your shins 3 times a day for 10 min (get on the net and find suitable stetches). For your arch pain, fill a 600m coke bottle with water and freeze it. Sit down somewhere and then roll the bottle under your arch. Push down slightly so the bottle gives the arch a decent stretch.
harrysurfer
harrysurfer
WA
254 posts
WA, 254 posts
6 Oct 2008 8:57pm
Definately ditch the thongs. a year ago i used to wake up and i couldnt walk without pain at the arch of the foot for about 30min. i used to walk barefoot all the time especially on floor boards. Also had bought a cheap pair of shoes from spendless shoes.
Anyways bought a new pair of shoes with air soles, stopped walking barefoot all the time and within 1 month the pain went away. Everytime i used to surf it would flare up. now no worries. also went out the other day and my footstraps were too tight and caused lots of pain maybe loosen and see if it helps. But yeah it wont get better unless you rest it. This may not be your problem or fix but it worked for me.
the pm
the pm
QLD
31 posts
QLD, 31 posts
7 Oct 2008 12:11am
Well, if your expert diagnosed it then they should know how to treat it or at least refer you to a person who knows how. If they didnt, ask them why!

Most of the tips here in the forum are good but only go part way.
Get to a quality sports physio and learn to manage it fully.
it wont take long, few sessions to settle it and teach you to fix the thing properly. easy.

short term eg ice, voltaren or similar, rest a bit, stretch
long term: technique check, stretches, STRENGTH exs, shoes etc

you can waste heaps of time and money dicking about with piecemeal approaches.

If you want more detail or help, email me. I am a Sports Physio. Redlands qld



kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
6 Oct 2008 11:02pm
strapless? try a mutant if the surfboard is too directional for you
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
7 Oct 2008 7:21am
Un officially

A direct steroid injection beats everything & works fastest & longest - compared to all the Snake Oil, they flog off as remedies

Just ask any surgeon Un officially of course

Philis
Philis
33 posts
33 posts
7 Oct 2008 2:18pm
Of course the expert knows how to tread it, you give 150 mg per day for one week and if there are still problems you get a steroid injection.
But was the expert can’t know is, how i always got this pain (he never saw a kite surfer, because he is an expert in food injuries but not in kite surfing)
I know how to tread, how to stretch, but nothing helped against that, so I think the past way how to do it is, to make the pads wider and maybe change a bit their position, actually because I am really new in this sport I didn’t new, that I can adjust my pads in their position!
peanuticus
peanuticus
NSW
341 posts
NSW, 341 posts
7 Oct 2008 9:01pm
whatthe said...

If the gravel doesn't help, try a teaspoon of cement sprinkled over your wheaties.


ditto.. go chat with chopper..
j.l
j.l
NSW
26 posts
j.l j.l
NSW, 26 posts
7 Oct 2008 9:41pm
I had a similar problem a few years back. The main problem was the board was too wide and the pad/strap set up were in the centre of the board instead of towards the heel side rail. I watched my shin muscles and big toe of my front foot and noticed that I was flexing the big toe hence shin most of the time. This was due to the bad set up of the pads and width of the board as I was having to flex to get enough pressure on the heels.
The answer- Get a narrower board and if your shins are sensitive, like others have said comfortable and well fitted pads/stap combo is worth getting right. Narrow boards don't plane as quickly but generally you can hold lots of power.
I suggest you try a few narrower boards.

Good Luck

J.L
stanhalen
stanhalen
WA
187 posts
WA, 187 posts
7 Oct 2008 7:46pm
Put keepers on your foot straps, I can't ride without them. Less stress on your toes and feet, without the hassle of going to full bindings for comfort.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
8 Oct 2008 9:21am
Mr float said...

HTFU

i wake up every morning from pain resultant from kitesurfing .I find eating gravel for breakfast takes my mind off the other pain


Sheesh it was a joke ! whats with the thumbs downs?did someone lose lots of money on the sharemarket along with their sense of humour?
maybe try some self medicated hard drugs !
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