i agree fully here stabber...

the best line is when u get asked to try something n give critisizm on pros n cons then when u tell them the cons they have reasons for it all prepared like its ur technique n bla bla bla bla

i get how fuels n such kites are made from the specs of the pros because thats the type of market they are aiming at, people who want solid performance for freestyle etc.. but with freeride kites like rebels octanes seagulls and such they should really give the average riders a bit of a open panel to put suggestions into instead of just ignoring what they got to say, because at end of the day its those average punters that will b payin for those kites

most punters that buy the gear arent black belts in fumanchu......the point is i think that some of the gear needs tolerence,not everbody needs stuff that is shaved to the inth degree

Trouble is, most people think they're black belts in Fu Man Chu after a year or so. Hence gear is made to be tolerant, then marketed like it's designed for Chuck Norris.

Gear's been getting more user friendly every year in my opinion.

I agree totally with you trant....gear is much better than 10 years ago....
BUT...
certain stupid little stuffups like the ends of the new IDS bar, that don't even hold the strings in properly!...the old bar did....why change it?

And the clip on my new mystic harness that a person would have to be superman to undo!.....and I'm no Superman!(unless you're referring to the bedroom)....the old system was fine.

stabber said...


BUT...
certain stupid little stuffups like the ends of the new IDS bar, that don't even hold the strings in properly!...the old bar did....why change it?

the old Mystic system was fine.

The 2010 bar ends are stiffer than the 2090 bars ends, they took that on board.
They wanted soft ends because pros and joes were smaking themselves in the head and face with the bar ends.
If your bar ends have been bent in from winding lines on too tight, wind them on the other side of the bar, fixes the issue.

Cabrinha, Ozone, Best all ask for feedback regularly, and change what they get widespread feedback about. They are just 3 brands that I know have asked, Cab do it at the end of eash season with each dealer.

The old mystic warrior 1 clips came undone when you rode toeside, loosen the belts on the clip side a bit and its easy to undo or tie a bit of line around the red clip thing and pull it to release makes it really easy.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Kitepower Australia said...
The old mystic warrior 1 clips came undone when you rode toeside

OK, thats a fair enough explaination for the change.

I saw the new spreader bar release thing last year on the mystic and thought: "why change, last years worked fine. Plus the stainless clip has no moving parts"

Personally I reckon the old system was heaps better. If it came unclipped riding toeside, then turn the clip around like Dakine have it (it is harder to clip to the spreader tho)

Keep at em stabber, they might listen. I bitched and moaned about the slingshot leash for years with that stupid pull type release. Its great to see the change finally.

However I dont expect Naish to listen and change their flawed Octopuss system in a hurry tho

Trant said...

Trouble is, most people think they're black belts in Fu Man Chu ...

stabber said...

...and I'm no Superman!(unless you're referring to the bedroom)

I reckon Stabber is familiar with Lanolin. Probably well aware how to get it off his dacks too.

I lost the clip off my harness, best thing ever. Crikey it takes about 15secs to thread the strap and do it up nice, especially good after stopping for a pie and beer mid session and/or dumping a load in the dunes [}:)]
LOL

hey,yeah yeah lano goood,in WA you can pick up lanolin at 'coventrys'..just dont be in a hurry

happy1 said...

ricko said...

stabber said...

I agree totally with you trant....gear is much better than 10 years ago....
BUT...
certain stupid little stuffups like the ends of the new IDS bar, that don't even hold the strings in properly!...the old bar did....why change it?

And the clip on my new mystic harness that a person would have to be superman to undo!.....and I'm no Superman!(unless you're referring to the bedroom)....the old system was fine.

i too have the mystic harness,put some food grade lanolin grease on the pointy bit bit....works great and doesn't spread everywhere making a mess. lanolin Good product for water abuse

Where do you get that food grade lano??
Thanks for the tip, the bit of lines a good idea too

unforeseen design problem

ahhh simple things!!!

Most improvements in kite performance seem to compromise some other performance aspect from my negative view point. my 09 waroos seem to have lees bottom end than my 08's but much better top end. I want my 13 to have better bottom end and my 9 to have better top end. Can't they read my mind!!!!!

stabber said...

Ok I'd like to pose the question to all Breezers!

How the hell are we supposed to give our side(the real users) side ....and tell manufacturers of the needs and wants of kiters?

Think you've got a good point Stabs but it seems to me the criticisms of your original locked topic were that you / others went overboard in slagging the product / manufacturer.

I'm all in support for personal reviews of gear which you've used... but which are objective (and not personal?!!)

Maybe if you had a near death experience due to a manufacturers cost saving ways you are'nt going to pussy around like some do gooder and not make people aware that a certain company needs to lift their act. Cabrinha have a bad reputation for quality control and need to lift their act. This has been ongoing for years. Personally I think it's a discrace given the cost you pay for a kite and quality/safety that's delivered. Am I going to write a solitary letter to Cabrinha? Yeah big deal sure, it will change overnight.
Like any other forum express your views, sure you're going to offend some people but we will never avoid that will we?