tips and tricks - kite down in the surf

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lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
SA, 402 posts
11 Jul 2007 6:44pm
I was kiting the Bunbury Cut last weekend and my kite went down in the surf and things went down from there for a bit, the biggest issue was my kite which was in the water then took a wave - which dragged my backside underwater for sometime and I remember thinking about a knife to cut the lines for some reason.

After 5 minutes or so I got it back in the air and kiting back to land - which at the cut is some distance away.

Being new to the sport are there any tips for riding in the surf especially in regards to a kite going down in the water - Im riding Airush Flows and having a lot of fun, but when things go wrong its nice to have some additional knowledge on hand.

As for the cut its got the best banks its had for at least 15 years plus... awesome for kiting and great for surfing in the right conditions...

Thanks in advance.
Poostanceboy
Poostanceboy
NSW
19 posts
NSW, 19 posts
11 Jul 2007 7:48pm
If your kite goes down in the surf and you can't get it back up in time pull the qr and have ur safety connected to ur flagging line
the wave ill take the kite it's a bitch to get set back up again but saves a ripped kite
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
11 Jul 2007 7:58pm
practice your relaunching on flat water. the more you practice the easier it will be to pop your kite up when you get drilled in the surf
when you are riding the wave, as soon as you feel/see the lines going slack, carve against the kite to put tension back in the lines and regain steering
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
11 Jul 2007 8:10pm
When ya cant get it back up Disconnect totally from your kite befor you get dragged an wreck it,an swim away from your lines,always go with good mates in the surf an look out for each other.Go help with the runaway kite while the crasher swims in,thats what mates do,when they are able of course without endangering themselves.Most times the kite just parks it self in a soggy state at the waters edge unless its blowing its guts out in which case you have to be pretty aware of whats going on all around you and the potential dangers and obstacles that are there, an kite accordingly to the conditions and your abilities
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
11 Jul 2007 8:38pm
had this happen to me yesterday however a huge set lifted me up and dumped me on my lines tangling me up in them managed to get the release whilst rolling under water from the wave and slip from my lines. I saw blownaway going to rescue my kite when dustin got it instead, however it wrapped him up like a blanket and he almost crashed his kite in the process. My kite landed 1m away from a sharp sign that would have sliced through it like butter. I ride with my safety on the chicken loop that way there is only 1 to release in an emergency.
Neill
Neill
VIC
484 posts
VIC, 484 posts
11 Jul 2007 10:54pm
quote:
I ride with my safety on the chicken loop that way there is only 1 to release in an emergency.


i agree entirely. if it's down in the surf, you wanna ditch it quick smart before a wave hits it, tensions up the lines, drags you and tears the kite up. swim back in and grab the (hopefully) unhurt kite. if your leash is on the chicken loop, all you need to do is pop the chicken loop safety off, it will slip from your harness and the leash will also slide off. very fast and safe.

the flipside is, if you get a line tangle or a front line breaks or something, and you don't want to fully release the kite, but it's unflyable. then your best bet is to grab a front line (sliding flagging ring would be helpful here) and do a water pack-down. obviously not really an option in the surf however.

dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
11 Jul 2007 10:42pm
I know it's stating the obvious, but don't drop your kite, unless it's under 2 foot..
Kite conservatively and take a wipeout or 2 if it means keeping your kite in the air.
Many harnesses come with line cutters, and many threads have been posted about the do's and don'ts of using one.
Practice downloops and kiteloops as well as down-wind turns on flat-1 foot of surf until u have them perfected. Sounds like you are from a surfing back-ground so all you really have to suss is keeping the lines taught.
Some of the basics are to turn your kite before you turn on the wave, downlooping works best when going backhand off the lip down-wind, If your Flow goes down sometimes it is leading edge up, grab your trim strap and yank it. Many times in the surf, kites are oversheeted and have a wave pushing them down.
Might see u next week, as I'm in Bunbury.... Where's the cut?
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
11 Jul 2007 10:55pm
P.S. I don't know how long you've been riding waves but it is a full art. Freestyle is easy to practice, Waves are different.
Every time you go out it's different, you'll wire it somewhere then kook out the next time you go out.
As the other guys have said, its flatwater relaunching practice that will help with the relaunch issue.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
12 Jul 2007 9:34am
This is one of the reasons people around here and elswhere in wave spots choose to ride venoms .(yes I know deriders that you can encounter problems but they are much less frequent and devastating)
lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
SA, 402 posts
12 Jul 2007 7:45pm
Thanks heaps guys, yeah I have a long surfing background and it was a rush of blood that brought me unstuck (twice actually but I wont mention the second time) and as I stuffed up on the wave the kite hit the water quickly as it was low and in a powered up state - unfortunately the waves were close together and as I went down on my wave it landed in front of the previous wave - and with the wind and waves travelling in the same direction it was always going to be interesting.

In hindsight I should have released and then recovered - but the "she will be right attitude" kicked in and luckily this time it worked out.. although I had Dan and Mark on hand to help out.

Dave, the cut at Bunbury is where the estuary flows to the ocean - and to get there you need to drive out past the inner harbour - towards Australind. When you get to the cut you will see two large rock groins and the surf is about 150m past the end of them. Its been so good lately... winds dont look too great this weekend though. Also riding there on a northerly is pretty good too as the water is protected on the south side but the swell still wraps around making for a lot of fun once you are past the beach break...

If you are going to be down this way let me know, if the wind is on - its on!!!
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
12 Jul 2007 6:48pm
Thanks heaps for the local info...Down from tues to fri next week
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
12 Jul 2007 11:04pm
quote:
Originally posted by dave......

P.S. I don't know how long you've been riding waves but it is a full art. Freestyle is easy to practice, Waves are different.
Every time you go out it's different, you'll wire it somewhere then kook out the next time you go out.
As the other guys have said, its flatwater relaunching practice that will help with the relaunch issue.



All I do is surf waves, flatwater only very occasionally. Its all well and good to say not to crash your kite, but it does happen and the more aggressive you ride the higher the risk, that combined with the wind dying and weakening in the middle of a downwinder, kite malfunction ect...

Id prefer to take the risk and have an epic session riding aggressive rather then being conservative. Yes even when you are rolling under an 8ft set your kite is everything and you cant crash it, but it does happen.
lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
SA, 402 posts
12 Jul 2007 10:43pm
yeah totally agree... I certainly cant wipe the smile off my face from the past two weekends in the surf... and for not one minute do I regret (thankfully) that rush of blood that brought me unstuck...

I got into this sport to take to the waves - especially the cut as the body is ageing and doesnt take too kindly to the continuous hours of paddling against the current.

I reckon I have most aspects of relaunching in deep water down pat, its just when things go wrong its certainly to a much more severe degree than on flat water! I think I need to arm the good wife with a jet ski
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
12 Jul 2007 10:26pm
quote:
Originally posted by lancekenny
I think I need to arm the good wife with a jet ski



when you get that sorted can you send her down secret harbour way in her bikinis?
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