Huge difference - riding the vapor is like riding the liquid force havoc, very light but you still know where the kite is. You need man hands for the flow 12m and above... having said that the new 2008 range is out and they say they have reduced the bar pressure on the flow.....

The Vapor has a lot lighter bar pressure, although on saying that the bar pressure can be adjusted by tensioning or loosening the 5th line,
Thanks
Matt

thanks lancekenny,

I am planning on buying a vapour when I get to WA in october. I have been getting a bit frustrated with my flow always pulling like a beast. I cant wait to get my hands on the vapour. Do you find it has as much low wind power as the flow, I am just thinking about whether to get a 12 or a 14, will probably aim to get a 10 later on for a trip up north. I found my 12 flow was perfect for general riding and would look for something of a similar nature.

take it easy,

tom

metaphors:
vapor(12); holding down the accelerator
Flow(10); peddling a bike

i have only ridden each kite once but the difference was well noticed.

As a guide I took my flow 7m out this morning - for my brother in law who is learning to kite - the wind was up to 14kts but was gusty and typically lighter... he was body dragging so I went and grabbed the board and it was strong enough to pull my 100kgs out of the water for 50m out and 50m back. Scott then had a crack on the board and after 20 minutes got his first ride in of about 15m. Consider him hooked and on the 12m next time...

Charl called it a truck and that is so true - it just has so much low end grunt... I couldnt jump or anything but it was enough to plane a long nicely...

Keen to see what the 08 kites are like as they say they have reduced the bar pressure on them - the shapes look very similar to what they are now though...