waterproof short range radios? Flares?

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DreadZepplin
DreadZepplin
NSW
53 posts
NSW, 53 posts
24 Jan 2006 9:01pm
Hey All,

Just thought I'd thrown this out there...

Saw 3 guys get very very stranded quite a ways out yesterday... wind dropped badly, dark only an hour off, they werent even going anywhere with a self rescue due to the tide and low wind....Fortunately a local was kind enough to get his boat and save them, but... what if he wasnt around?

Anyone got any ideas on if we should be looking to find a waterproof walkie talkie type thing (kite with a buddy and keep in contact), or even a waterproof flare for a real 'help, i'm stranded'?

Keen on the concept to 'stay as close to the shore as you're happy to swim', but with so many kiters these days, it's getting tougher and tougher, I'd like to find other options.


DZ
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
24 Jan 2006 6:47pm
Hey Dread,

You can purchase an "Aquapac" from most good surf and camping stores which can take a mobile phone or Small UHF radio and keep it on your person. I don't think it will take off with the masses though unless you are doing longish downwinders.

You can purchase a flare from any good chandlery or boating outlet and then put it in a plastic bag and use a heat sealer to keep it dry, then attch it to your harness or whatever.

It's a great idea, but an even better one is for people to ride within their limits, be self reliant and look out for one another. Ride using a buddy system will help and stay out no further than you are prepared to swim in. Know your conditions and ride within your limits.

Good winds,

qfmike737
qfmike737
QLD
398 posts
QLD, 398 posts
25 Jan 2006 12:36am
uniden and garmin have VOX (voice activated) 100% waterproof handsfree radios. You can communicate with each other whilst kiting without having to press any buttons to transmit. They'd pretty handy espeacially if you want training/coaching lessons

Ian Grose
Ian Grose
TAS
423 posts
TAS, 423 posts
25 Jan 2006 2:14am
Aquapacs are the go, then you can call someone for a lift, to catch up for a beer or to be rescued. Added benefit if you have your phone and keys on you, they can't be stolen.

I've had one for my phone for about four years, no problems and now have one for my digital SLR.

You can get them for phones, keys, GPS and cameras.

Phone ones are about $38.

The best part is Airborne Kitesurfing stock them.....

Ian Grose
Airborne Kitesurfing
4 / 11 Howe St
Osborne Park
NSW, 4382 posts
25 Jan 2006 9:18am
An incident like this happened night before last at Dolls, the guys were lucky I was still there, and that there was someone with a vehicle that could tow my boat (Thanks Charl!I usually walk home).

Aquapacs are a great device, if they had one they could have called ahead and ordered beer from the local bottle shop. The thing about Dolls is everyone thinks they are not far from shore, but the tide was ripping out that night, and despite a NE blowing them towards shore they actually went further out in to the bay and were in for a long night.

Not sure why the first guy went down, but I tried to drag him in with my kite and abandoned that idea when the wind dropped so much I thought I would drop my kite as well. I tried to drag his kite in but with the dropping wind, and the kite and lines being in a real mess, I chose not to pursue that idea either. I told him about self rescue while all this was going on. Then the wind dropped more and I could only just get back to shore myself.

Then another person with a bigger kite went to help and dropped their kite too. The first guy had managed to keep his board with him and had even managed to get the second guys board and hang on to it, which was a good effort.

Neither person knew how to self rescue, although one eventually worked it out from what I said to him in the water, but he still was going out to sea due to the tide.
Both were in no danger of drowning due to the use of inflatable kites, when I got to them in the boat just before dark they were both lying on their kites trying not to hear the music!!

In a dying wind, and thermal winds like our NE'sters often drop in the evening, don't go far from shore, better still don't go out.

Make sure you know how to self rescue and consider carring a mobile phone in an Aquapac (Kitepower sell them too).

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
DreadZepplin
DreadZepplin
NSW
53 posts
NSW, 53 posts
25 Jan 2006 9:51am
Nice one guys, solid info as always.....

Totally agree with 'kite within your limits', but I think we should all be prepared for the worst eg burst bladder, line break, horrible tides that drag you out.

Steve - I'll come in to see you for an Aquapack, as you're my 'local'. May look into these waterproof UHF's too for me and a mate who kite a lot together.

Love this forum.... so damn usefull..

GoodWinds to all
DZ
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
25 Jan 2006 7:54pm
someone once told me: "don't kite any further offshoer than you are prepared to swim back in..."
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