When are you kitesurfers going to realize that Nobby's is not the place for you. Im going to start a Petition to have kite surfing banned from Nobby's.

The precedent for banning kitesurfing has already been set at Bondi and other Sydney beaches.

To protect the overall safety of beach users on one of the busiest beaches in Newcastle, local council will have to follow.

Especially with out of control learners dropping kites on the beach near beach walkers and Kites ending up in the Flag zone causing extreme danger to swimmers.

Unfortunately kitesurfers may feel despondent with bans inplace. But if thats the price to pay for safe access to be users, then so be it.

OGLOCAL said...

When are you kitesurfers going to realize that Nobby's is not the place for you. Im going to start a Petition to have kite surfing banned from Nobby's.
The precedent for banning kitesurfing has already been set at Bondi and other Sydney beaches.

Do you know a better place?

If you are a windsurfer, what would you do if the council banned all sail craft?
(I see from your other post you have no positive contributions to make!)
If you are another beach user read on!

You can't really compare the top end of Nobby's to Bondi.
Bondi is packed with people all the time and it is just common sense that many activities not be allowed with so many people about, I think even ball sports have been banned.

Compared to those that use the area near the surf club prior to kitsurfing taking place at the top end of Nobby's a decade ago relatively few people ventured to that area of the beach on a windy day when the white caps covered the ocean, infact I would say the activity of kitesurfing itself actually attracts an equal number of people to that end of the beach as it is itself a reason to go for a walk as they are intrigued by the sport and the colour and use of a big kite to propel a person along in a quite and peaceful way and yet seam to require all the strength and stamina of an elite athlete to perform.

If you believe in everybody having a right to perform their chosen activity why would you want to see so many people banned from enjoying a healthy lifestyle, giving themselves little personal challenges to improve and succeed and have very little impact on the environment and forget about the hustle and bustle of daily life.

Just like many other activities such as tennis, basket ball, skate boarding, bicycle riding, soccer, football, model aero planes, golf, dancing or even kids play grounds, they all have designated areas for these activities.

As these activities are very old and some are hundreds of years old the general public is well aware of the dangers and risks and we know not to park the car to close to a footy game or else a ball might end up on the roof of the car and we know not to enter an area used for model aeroplanes and we know to keep an eye on the kids when walking along a bike track and we certainly know not to go play frisbee with the kids at the local playing field while there is a cricket match on.

Of all the many kilometres of beaches between Nora Head and Nelsons Bay there is probly only about 1.5 kilometres that us kitesurfers and windsurfers tend to use, these probly only number about 7 locations which is not that many really for Australia's 6th biggest city which is world famous for it's many great beaches, thanks to champions of the wave like Mark Richards.

As most of our councils seam to be on a push to promote a healthy life style within their boundaries to entice others to take up residence in their great cities I am sure that if the councils are made aware of some facts they would most likely erect signs advising other beach users of the activities performed in these areas.
As our sport is relatively new, infact it has only been done by the general public for about 11 year in Australia, this would greatly help us to educate the greater public in what our sport is all about and explain to them the reasons not to stand so close and watch the spills and thrills this great sport has to offer for it's supporters.

It just so happens that Nobby's is a relatively safe beach for a learner as the big swell does not hit the beach directly as the reef stops a lot of it. And this would be another reason for councils not to ban the sport at the top end of nobys as it could potentially force learners to take their chances at another beach which may have many other users and most likely has more risks for a learner and they may get into difficulty in the rough surf.

So if you are walking up that way again on day that is windy (we haven't had many lately) may I suggest you give the kitesurfers a wide birth (the beach is plenty wide enough to walk around) rather than to close and put yourself in danger should something go wrong with a kite that is in the air.

And may we all enjoy the days we have left till we are 6 feet under , we are not here very long

Jeff,

You seem very persistent on this issue. posting a comment banning kitesurfing from any particular beach, within a kitesurfing forum, will never garnish much support, from the kitesurfing fraternity. Your original posts seemi very inflammatory, but your concerns about the beach in question seem to still go unanswered.

If you are after trying to find solutions to a beach access issue you have, your best avenue to find a solution with the local kiters would be to contact the NSWKBA via their website nswkba.com.au They have an Incident form to assist with gathering some history and background. Click on the below link
www.nswkba.com.au/Default.aspx?pageId=560348

and they would be happy to take your concerns and find a solution to your problems.


KR

Windsurfing has dominated this reef for many years before kitesurfing developed and in harmony with the surfers. I see their point (Windsurfers) when tools with kites where being hauled around the reef at different angles to the windsurfers and thrown against the beach, surfers and sailboards with no respect but f$#@* I am a kitesurfer and get out of my way.

Respect and appologies should go a long way to local knowledge and keeping waters open to all.

Think about it before a ban happens.

That little angry American dude really pissed me off with his lack of knowledge and outrageous prices, What his name again mate? Are you his partner or somthing, you seem quite defensive.

Subsonic said...

Hey All,

Sorry for the interstate/intersport inccursion (Im bored),

have a look at his post in the kitesurfing general forum "customer service". I like a bit of intersport bagging as much as the next person, but it would appear a bit of trolling taking place.

(for the record SOS is a predominantly kite and surf orientated shop in Perth (with excellent customer service i might add))

I might be wrong, they do have a small selection of 2nd hand poledancing gear, but it strikes me as strange that a NSW windsurfer is visiting a kiting store in WA.

Happy Teabagging/poledancing from WA

Subsonic said...

So whatd ya buy from him that was overpriced?

Maybe he wanted some Valium but couldn't afford it ?

OGLOCAL said...



I agree WDRIC, lets promote a healthy life style and entice more beach users to Nobbys and not expose FAMILIES WITH YOUNG KIDS to serious injuries.
You must know what kids are like, they dont pay attention to signs or things that could place them in danger.

You can have all the signs and warning inplace, but is that really going to prevent an out of control kite from crashing on the beach with out warning, or a kite drifting out of control through the flagged swimming area potentially strangling people with their lines.

Im only looking out for the safety of young families and beach users in general. Im sure the Life guards will be able to support this and also give evidence of numerous near misses.





What kind of parent that has children young enough to not understand signs would be stupid enough to allow there children near someone with a kite let alone unsupervised at a beach???

hey old dude..

"OH&S LAWS, Council is Obligated under duty of care to the majority of the public to take action to prevent serious injury from taking place to beach users"

whats the first letter in OH&S?

Occupational.

Can you find anywhere in the new national Occupational Health and Safety legislation where it relates to members of the general public who are not on your work site, yet must be responsible for the health and safety of other members of the public who are also not on your work site, not using your facilities, yet you a third party - council must responsible to maintain their health and well being, under duty of care? OHS - Occupational Health and Safety Dude. your not at work, i am not at work, so stop using it as a cop out.

Work cover are not going to pay you for your back injury when you bend down to pick up the 5 cents you just found on the beach.


Where's good on today's wind dude? ESE.. up north?

Compliant has been lodged with Newcastle City Council.

Wheels are in motion.

Ignore him guys....
he's either a sad lonely troll who gets his kicks from winding people up on the internet.
or
genuinely has made yet another complaint, because he is is one of those people what moans about and hates everything. Spends his life complaining , instead of living an loving life, like most of us who see the glass half full.

either way, he is a loser, living a sad life.
leave him to it.

Jimmy wind said...

OGLOCAL said...

When are you kitesurfers going to realize that Nobby's is not the place for you. Im going to start a Petition to have kite surfing banned from Nobby's.

You are a muppet Jeff and seem to have nothing better to do than cause trouble,i'm 'quite certain you probably sit t home at night getting all excited over provocative media like today tonight...Im a kiter and a windsurfer and have been doing so all my life on the central coast and Newcastle and you are certainly not a local rider that i know. Your just some try hard kook looking to stir trouble in a public forum. We do not have any inter-sport issues with kitting and windsurfing on the central coast/Newcastle and every where i ride there is a great stoke on the water between both sports. Being an avid enthusiast of both sports I try very hard to impart understanding between riders from both sports and have alot of respect for the fantastic level of riding going on in kiting/windsurfing on the central coast and in Newcastle.Im going to start a Petition to ban muppets like you from seabreeze.
One last thing next time your at nobbys and we're riding do come say hello...

I already have, I walk among you.