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Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
18 Nov 2015 3:50pm
Hi all,

I am new to the sport and this is my first post on the forum. I have taken a few lessons and can't stay on the board yet but getting there. I can feel I will enjoy this so I am thinking of getting my own gear. I am looking at second hand kite and board and like every newbie, I need advice.

I am 65 kg for 1.75m and looking at kiting in 15-20 knots wind for a start (more later). I think 10m should be good for me but I will ask my instructor. I don't have a particular brand or model in mind, as long as it's decent quality and suitable for me. I guess I'd like something easy to relaunch, easy to control and with good depower. My first objectives are to be able to ride, go upwind and maybe start jumping. I don't want to rely on brand's descriptions to choose so I am calling on to your expertise. I would greatly appreciate if you could you give me a few models from the last couple of years that you would recommend for a beginner but are not too limiting.

I guess for the board it's a bit easier. A twintip around 140 cm should do for a start from what I've read. But I am happy to take any recommendation on boards too.

Thank you for your help and looking forward to see you on the water.
Obelix
Obelix
WA
1173 posts
WA, 1173 posts
18 Nov 2015 4:43pm

I'm only a few lessons removed from you and rushed into buying a kite.

Bought a 2009 kite cheaply, and found it leaking. Tried to reapir it myself, spent more money. Still leaking.
So I bough a brand new (albeit a cheap variety of) kite. Works well.

The lesson is don't buy a kite too old. I would say - 2-3 years max.

flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
18 Nov 2015 7:46pm
Try and see what brands your local shop are selling as that is the easiest way to get local support (even though shops deny it)
90% of modern bridled kites are fine, the ones that aren't suitable are C kites and race kites - if you find something nice just put up a link and people will let you know.
As for boards get a twin tip around 138-140 in length, with a small amount of rocker and that will get you riding until you move to surf or wake style etc.
Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
19 Nov 2015 2:15pm
Thanks. What about a 10m North Fuse from 2011? I know, it sounds old, but hasn't been used much.
bigtone667
bigtone667
NSW
1559 posts
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
20 Nov 2015 1:24pm
As a beginner I would not recommend either the REO or the BWS both are wave kites ( great for drift ) and as such sit further back in the window reducing upwind ability.
As a beginner you will have enough trouble staying upwind and don't need anything to make it harder.
GarryA
GarryA
WA
268 posts
WA, 268 posts
24 Nov 2015 8:39am
Slingshot rally or north Evo ur best bet or the core, u can pick up any one of these kite old stock from the dealers at a pritty good deal and also they could do a good package, with a board but not smaller than a 137 try and make sure that there is little rocker as possible
Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
24 Nov 2015 11:08am
Found a good deal with hardly used Naish Park 2014. From reading description and reviews it looks like a good kite but some say more for intermediate to advanced riders...?
loftywinds2
loftywinds2
185 posts
185 posts
24 Nov 2015 12:16pm
www.inmotionkitesurfing.com/2012/types-of-kitesurfing-kites

Learn the different types of kites before you make a new purchase. For beginners, I would recommend hybrid or bow kites. C-kites are too strong and unpredictable for beginners.
Spitfire
Spitfire
WA
398 posts
WA, 398 posts
25 Nov 2015 1:34am
At 65 kg I would of thought a much smaller board. Yeah sure it might be easier to get up and riding for the first 2 or three sessions on a 140 but after that it would be way to big. Around about 133 would be a better long term buy. IMO
Kit3kat
Kit3kat
QLD
202 posts
QLD, 202 posts
25 Nov 2015 6:05am
A medium size board and a 9m bowstyle kite (rebel,switchblade etc) will cover your windrange from 12- 28 knots.
Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
25 Nov 2015 10:09am
Yes, I was told to start with a larger board but that I would have to change once I get up and going easily. I don't want to struggle at the start and be fustrated so I think I'll do that. Since I'm going second hand, I should be able to resell it for not too much less hopefully and spend more on a board for long term later.
My instructor recommended a 10m kite. I don't think I will go out in more than 20 knots before I am quite confident anyway so I'd rather have a larger kite that will be better in the lower range winds. I can buy a smaller kite later for stronger winds. Does that make sense?
loftywinds2
loftywinds2
185 posts
185 posts
25 Nov 2015 11:34am
Marsu said..
Yes, I was told to start with a larger board but that I would have to change once I get up and going easily. I don't want to struggle at the start and be fustrated so I think I'll do that. Since I'm going second hand, I should be able to resell it for not too much less hopefully and spend more on a board for long term later.
My instructor recommended a 10m kite. I don't think I will go out in more than 20 knots before I am quite confident anyway so I'd rather have a larger kite that will be better in the lower range winds. I can buy a smaller kite later for stronger winds. Does that make sense?


10 to 12m is about right, for your weight. More weight = bigger kite & board
Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
27 Nov 2015 9:34am
Would an Airush Lithium 10m be too powerfull?
loftywinds2
loftywinds2
185 posts
185 posts
27 Nov 2015 10:35am
Marsu said..
Would an Airush Lithium 10m be too powerfull?


No way. Great kite for boosting once you know how and it will hold you up in slightly less wind than other 10m kites, so you'll be mowing more often than them. Stick to under 20knots though
Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
30 Nov 2015 11:28am
Got myself the Airush Lithium 10 m with a Slingshot Misfit 136 cm!
Thanks for your help, I am sure I will need it again in the future
Vince68
Vince68
WA
675 posts
WA, 675 posts
13 Dec 2015 8:11pm
Marsu what has a kit cost you...total i.e board, kite etc. I guess later you'll end up getting more kite but how much initially to get you on the water. You see i windsurf (you might know as a pole dancer) and i like it a lot but my wife likes the look of kite surfing (damn it) so i'm becoming interested over time. don't see why i can't do both except $$$$. So how much
Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
16 Feb 2016 10:31am
Hi Vince. The second hand kit cost me a $1000 for kite+board+harness+vest. Kite was from 2013 but not much used and good condition. Board was immaculate. I have been out a couple of times with it now and I am happy (although I dont't have much point for comparison apart the ones I have use in lessons before). My instructor said I got a good deal too.

My advice is that, if you are not in a hurry, create an alert on Gumtree and wait for a guy who bought a whole kit new a couple of years ago and now realises that he's not that much into it or doesn't have time and just wants to get rid of the stuff. You'll get good condition second hand gear at a fraction of the cost! Better if you know a kiter that can have a look at the kite wiht you to make sure it's OK but when it's in good condition, it's pretty obvious. Do your research online and post your questions here re the type of kite, there are many that would be suitable so don't get stuck on a particular brand or model.
NoWorries
NoWorries
WA
30 posts
WA, 30 posts
18 Feb 2016 7:22am
65kg and a 10mtr kite

Funny over here in Perth I was told that a 10mtr kite would be perfect for me and i'm 80kg.
I have a 10mtr Airush Flow with a 138 Switch and that seems to be fine for 15-22 knts
My wife is 60 kgs and they told her a 7mtr is perfect.

I would have thought that 8mtr would have been your perfect kite.
But I am very much a newbie so i might be missing something.
Marsu
Marsu
QLD
10 posts
QLD, 10 posts
18 Feb 2016 10:30am
I was told 9 to 10 mtr, and I thought 10 mtr might be too much too but I trusted my instructor and it's OK. As a newbie I didn't want to go out in more than 20 knots anyway so I'd rather have something that allowed me to go with lower winds. When I am more confident, I'll get a smaller kite for 20+ knots.
thefacts
thefacts
51 posts
51 posts
18 Feb 2016 8:30am
NoWorries said..
Funny over here in Perth I was told that a 10mtr kite would be perfect for me and i'm 80kg.
But I am very much a newbie so i might be missing something.


Kite is good for your weight in WA conditions, as you progress you could probably downsize to a 9 or 8m.
The only thing you are missing is a little more understanding of local conditions i.e. tradewind vs seabreeze, air density etc.
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