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newbier
newbier
2 posts
2 posts
4 Mar 2015 10:17pm
So, I'm really new to this sport, also, never had any experience in snowboarding and etc. I completed 3 lessons 3 hrs each, and I manage everything not bad - bodydrag, making 8's, self-rescue, going upwind/downwind without the board, getting enough pull to stand on the board, BUT.

I came up with an irritating problem, when I try to finally ride, I get everything messed up, the waves start to disturb, wjen I start to stand on the board, it all begins I pull the bar too strong controlling my legs to put them into right position, the kite crashes... Meanwhile the wind pools me upwind and wave crash my face and I go away from the board. So I just start getting into a panic how to manage all these staff. Maybe I'm stressed out with doing all things at one time, I don't really get it. I feel like messing up everything even before I start LOL.

Also, I'm quite nervous of crashing into other kitesurfers and loosing my board far away from the beach (when I will finally ride... haha) or doing some other stupid staff

Going to have another lesson these days.... 4th one, and I feel like I must pull myself together finally
Swavek
Swavek
WA
396 posts
WA, 396 posts
4 Mar 2015 10:24pm
Need to start on flat water in a spot with not many kiters. I think the best wind for learning is around 18-20 knots. If you are in WA I can suggest a spot.
newbier
newbier
2 posts
2 posts
4 Mar 2015 10:31pm
The problems is, I'm in Thailand and it's the only spot here with lots of others kitesurfers/learning kiters and old people swimming near the shore... no way to escape this... The waves are not actually very big, but very irritating.
Swavek
Swavek
WA
396 posts
WA, 396 posts
4 Mar 2015 10:46pm
It is much harder to learn with waves - recommend holidays in Perth

Just need to persevere and ideally concentrate on one thing at the time - for example practice the control of the kite (body dragging) until it becomes a second nature, so you don't need to think about it much or look much at the kite. Then add the board - try go get onto the board and consider it success even if you fall straight after you stand on it, etc.

If classes are not expensive, you can keep taking classes, but I read somewhere that an average person needs spend between 40-60 hrs in the water before they can get up and going. This was the case with me - took me about 15 trips with about 3 hrs in the water before it clicked.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
5 Mar 2015 3:35am
We all went through it. Its normal.

Most newbies expect to be up and running after a few sessions..... this is not the case. Allow a full year to go from pleb to semi confident. Then allow another year to become confident.
DEECEE
DEECEE
NSW
45 posts
NSW, 45 posts
5 Mar 2015 1:10pm
We've all been there - it's part of the natural course of becoming a competent kiter. This is my 5th season now and I found that it was a good idea to set myself a goal to achieve by the end of the season so that all the frustrating sessions that happen along the way end up being part of the process. i.e.

End of season 1 goal was to be able to get up on the board and travel downwind and return back to the shore (followed by the inevitable walk of shame)
End of season 2 goal was to be able to go up wind and return back to the same spot on the beach consistently without having to do the walk of shame
End of season 3 goal was to be confidently going in and out and to attempt and land my first decent air time / jump
End of season 4 goal was to be confidently getting air and landing jumps on my good side and attempting some air time and jumps on my bad side
End of this season goal is to be confident in jumping both ways

Bear in mind that I only manage to get out once or twice every couple of weeks, so my progress would probably be considered slow compared to someone who has the ability to get out more often.

Moral to the story is to just stick with it and keep practicing because believe it or not, it will just click one day, and then you will never look back

Good luck
kts
kts
NSW
26 posts
kts kts
NSW, 26 posts
5 Mar 2015 9:00pm
DEECEE said..
We've all been there - it's part of the natural course of becoming a competent kiter. This is my 5th season now and I found that it was a good idea to set myself a goal to achieve by the end of the season so that all the frustrating sessions that happen along the way end up being part of the process. i.e.

End of season 1 goal was to be able to get up on the board and travel downwind and return back to the shore (followed by the inevitable walk of shame)
End of season 2 goal was to be able to go up wind and return back to the same spot on the beach consistently without having to do the walk of shame
End of season 3 goal was to be confidently going in and out and to attempt and land my first decent air time / jump
End of season 4 goal was to be confidently getting air and landing jumps on my good side and attempting some air time and jumps on my bad side
End of this season goal is to be confident in jumping both ways

Bear in mind that I only manage to get out once or twice every couple of weeks, so my progress would probably be considered slow compared to someone who has the ability to get out more often.

Moral to the story is to just stick with it and keep practicing because believe it or not, it will just click one day, and then you will never look back

Good luck


that is one of the most encouraging posts I've seen - thanks Deecee! It's so easy to get frustrated and think you're never going to get there - really helps to take the long view and set seasonal goals like this.
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
5 Mar 2015 9:14pm
Hey it might help not trying to ride straight away. I find a good way to get used to combining the board and kite together is to get it strapped on your feet and do little figure 8's above your head so you can get used to the pressure under your feet.
Don't worry about drifting downwind, just keep going to you are used to the feeling.
Then just start building it up until you are tea bagging up and down and eventually riding.
once you are there you can focus on trying to edge and then riding upwind.
kitcho207
kitcho207
NSW
865 posts
NSW, 865 posts
6 Mar 2015 12:16am
If that's the only place you can kite. Try body dragging out past the waves.
Remember only go out as far as you can swim back.
Alysum
Alysum
NSW
1030 posts
NSW, 1030 posts
6 Mar 2015 12:31pm
Aaahhh the number of times I turned up to the beach as a learner and my tummy flipped every time to the point that sometimes I could only just watch the others...

Happens to us all ! Definitely not good to start in waves though....
glendog
glendog
QLD
520 posts
QLD, 520 posts
6 Mar 2015 12:55pm
I first started in the surf. Had a lession in the surf then continued to go therefor 3 or for sessions on my own. Once i was confident enough to kite infront of other kiters i went to the local flatwater spot and it was soo easy compared to the surf. Starting in the surf gave me a jump start i recon.
CharliesDad
CharliesDad
WA
24 posts
WA, 24 posts
7 Mar 2015 8:37am
Like Alysum, I use to go to the beach and end up sitting watching people kite because I was nervous of handling the kite. I would try and time getting to the beach when the wind was at the bottom end of it's rating, i.e. my Catalyst is rated from 15 to 25 kts. What I found however is its easier to fly the kite at 20 knots and more of a handful at 15 knots and becomes more unpredictable.

Waves are a pain when you are trying to learn with the board. I live in Perth and was practicing at Woodman Point where there are small waves but enough to make it another level of difficulty to deal with. I went down to Shoalwater Bay where the water is pretty flat and that made things a lot easier. It sound like you don't have a choice but to tough it out.

People say things just click and they are right. I went from only being able to ride downwind one day to holding my ground / riding slightly upwind the next. To this day I don't know how that happened.

You might also want to get the Progression kiteboard videos. You can get them on disk or download from the App Store on iTunes. They gave me good tips and when I thought about techniques when I was kiting it definitely helps.

It it takes time but have the confidence to get out there and practice. Regretfully none of us will get better by sitting on the beach.

Good luck, you will have great fun
windreams
windreams
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
7 Mar 2015 11:48am
So true DEECEE but it's funny how many times I heard "oh man it only took me a few sessions (not seasons) and I was riding my board". As a beginner, didn't that make me feel disheartened and disillusioned because it was taking me a lot longer than that. Truth is while there might be an occasional natural that picks it up very quickly most of us take a hell of a lot longer.

I was at the beach yesterday and a stranger came up to me and said he was thinking of taking up kite surfing and proceeded to tell me he had done water skiing and cable park wakeboarding and because of that somebody told him it would only take a day of 2 before he would be on his board riding..... well I nicely burst his bullsh!t bubble.
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
7 Mar 2015 2:13pm
windreams said..
So true DEECEE but it's funny how many times I heard "oh man it only took me a few sessions (not seasons) and I was riding my board". As a beginner, didn't that make me feel disheartened and disillusioned because it was taking me a lot longer than that. Truth is while there might be an occasional natural that picks it up very quickly most of us take a hell of a lot longer.

I was at the beach yesterday and a stranger came up to me and said he was thinking of taking up kite surfing and proceeded to tell me he had done water skiing and cable park wakeboarding and because of that somebody told him it would only take a day of 2 before he would be on his board riding..... well I nicely burst his bullsh!t bubble.


I wouldn't say bullsh!t... I taught a guy who had been wake boarding 10+ years to kite in under 3 hours. Sure he couldn't transition, but he was able to hold an edge upwind, ride downwind, setup and packdown etc. AND, he knew the how to use his safety and was able to do a deepwater backdown.
I taught a 13 y/o to transition on his second lesson (~3-4hrs total experiance), 12 months later and he is now better than me (I have been riding for 4 years) which sucks but hey.
The order of people who pick it up best goes: cable riders and wakeboarders, snowboarders, surfers and skaters, then funnily enough, pilots, their kite control. is amazing. I had one pilot who didn't drop a kite in his 2 hour lesson, having never touched a kite before.
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
7 Mar 2015 11:50pm
Sailors tend to pick it up quicker than all those groups you mentioned. The knowledge and understanding of the wind it's directions and physics of the kite means they can pretty much just focus on the board skills from the start.
That's what I have noticed from the few people I have taught .
Alysum
Alysum
NSW
1030 posts
NSW, 1030 posts
8 Mar 2015 1:04am
I disagree with that. I'm an experienced sailor and even though I understood the physics of water/could spot gusts on the water, it actually made it harder to go kitesurfing in 20-25knots. Because we know that sailing in those winds is very hard work ! So a lot of beginner nervous moments too.
fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
11 Mar 2015 9:31pm
DEECEE said..
We've all been there - it's part of the natural course of becoming a competent kiter. This is my 5th season now and I found that it was a good idea to set myself a goal to achieve by the end of the season so that all the frustrating sessions that happen along the way end up being part of the process. i.e.

End of season 1 goal was to be able to get up on the board and travel downwind and return back to the shore (followed by the inevitable walk of shame)
End of season 2 goal was to be able to go up wind and return back to the same spot on the beach consistently without having to do the walk of shame
End of season 3 goal was to be confidently going in and out and to attempt and land my first decent air time / jump
End of season 4 goal was to be confidently getting air and landing jumps on my good side and attempting some air time and jumps on my bad side
End of this season goal is to be confident in jumping both ways

Bear in mind that I only manage to get out once or twice every couple of weeks, so my progress would probably be considered slow compared to someone who has the ability to get out more often.

Moral to the story is to just stick with it and keep practicing because believe it or not, it will just click one day, and then you will never look back

Good luck


What DEECEE said but try to speed it up a bit or you will be trying to ride unhooked at 80 yrs old
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
12 Mar 2015 12:29am
Lol the first time i thought it said "session" not season, OMG you took 4 season's to jump both ways.
Sailors are good for understanding the wind, sheeting in and out etc. BUT they have never had to make move their sail from 3 to 12 o'clock, do figure 8's, loops, water relaunches. How is a mainsheet similar to bar and lines?.
So no, i don't see how they can straight away jump into board work. Then, come board work, there is no relation, maybe they have been on a trapeze but that feels much more secure... (coming from an ex sailor too btw..)

Oh and a good way to ease the nerves, I find a few chilled bevies does that for me, wether you want to use this technique for kiting is up to you
bigtone667
bigtone667
NSW
1559 posts
NSW, 1559 posts
12 Mar 2015 9:03am
Plummet said..
We all went through it. Its normal.

Most newbies expect to be up and running after a few sessions..... this is not the case. Allow a full year to go from pleb to semi confident. Then allow another year to become confident.


And then allow six months to recover from over confidence and injury ..... lol
DEECEE
DEECEE
NSW
45 posts
NSW, 45 posts
12 Mar 2015 8:38pm
Hey go easy on me guys, I only get out a couple of times a month and I only ate the bag of cement to harden up after 4 seasons, so I reckon I'm doing ok for 40 year old. and don't exaggerate fingerbone - at this rate I'll be riding unhooked at 65 thankyou
Kalm
Kalm
QLD
2 posts
QLD, 2 posts
25 Sep 2015 7:46am
Hi all, lone lady kiter here :/. I learnt at the start of the year and am going out today for the first time in months but am feeling quite nervous. I had an accident a few years ago and fractured my pelvis. From that point on I realised my 'breaking point' so to speak and have struggled with my confidence which has ultimately stalled my learning curve on getting better at kiting. I freaking hate that feeling of nerves getting the better of me. I for one appreciate all the comments experienced kiters are saying. Thanks guys I realise I'm not alone with the nerves.

If there are other lady kiters out there, I'd love to hear from you.

Kat


JKimbler
JKimbler
317 posts
317 posts
25 Sep 2015 7:36am
When in doubt, sheet out! Many problems early in learning are caused by over sheeting, "choking" the kite. Push the bar out, let the kite breathe. Also, I would have to say that windsurfers pick up the sport the fastest...
JKimbler
JKimbler
317 posts
317 posts
25 Sep 2015 7:40am
Forgot the main thing I was going to say: Don't be afraid to go searching for your own spot. Go on a little hunting mission, try and find a nice beach where you can fly the kite/body drag etc. without too many people around. I know it's not possible everywhere, but it really helps to get away from the distraction of a crowded beach. Bring a buddy to assist for safety if you can, and compensate them with cold beer.
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