Cabrinha IDS bar with Ozone kite

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Islander11
Islander11
WA
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2 Feb 2017 8:24am
This might be a stupid question, but can you use a Cabrinha IDS (2014) bar with an Ozone (Catalyst) kite?
They are both 4 lines.
I just like the Cabrinha bar heaps better.

thanks!
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
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2 Feb 2017 6:37pm
The safety system won't work. Ozone kites are designed to be flagged on a single front line safety. 2014 cabrinha bars were still on dual front lines safety if I'm not mistaken. Also the Ozone kites are designed to be flown on bars with low V (low center line split). Cabrinha bars have a high V. Not a good match IMO you should avoid it

Christian
Gateman
Gateman
QLD
409 posts
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2 Feb 2017 9:41pm
My 2015 Cabrinha 1X bar has a very low "V" and flags on 1 line, I think this is the first year Cabrinha made these changes. Used this bar a few times on my 2010 switchblade and it worked well but haven't tried the old 2010 IDS bar (high V and double front line flagging) on the 2015 kite though, probably won't.
2stubborn2quit
2stubborn2quit
WA
169 posts
WA, 169 posts
2 Feb 2017 8:58pm
Sticking my neck out here.
My first kite was a 2014 Switchblade and it had the blue and white 1x IDS bar. It was a low Y ( I still have it and just checked), and it flagged onto one line, I believe the high Y was the 2013 model.
Anyway I now have a 2016 Cabrinha bar and have used it on Cabrinha (obviously), Airush, Blade kites, Switch kites and my Ozone Zephyr. all work just fine. maybe the performance could be improved with small line extensions on some kites but not enough to make a considerable difference or worry me.
So as long as your bar or any bar flags out on one line, has a relatively low Y and the lines are of equal length then I believe it will be fine on your Catalyst.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
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3 Feb 2017 8:19pm
2012 was the last year of IDS, although the Quicklink for 2013 was still a high V or double front Y. 2014 introduced the 1X which was mini-fifth and low V.

So, it should work. Worst case scenario, swap just the bar over.
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
QLD
1084 posts
QLD, 1084 posts
4 Feb 2017 9:32am
I've tried just about all kite bars since 2008 except the IDS bars from Cabrinha. What is so different with them in terms of line lengths and safety? And why they won't work with most kites? Just curious
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
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4 Feb 2017 10:52am
NothernKitesAU said..
I've tried just about all kite bars since 2008 except the IDS bars from Cabrinha. What is so different with them in terms of line lengths and safety? And why they won't work with most kites? Just curious


Just a double front safety aka reride. Needs rollover bridles and pulleys on the kite to work as the "throw" on the safety line is about 3m.

Means the lines are two different lengths, which is annoying. And a high split which can affect how some kites fly. And of course the pulleys which cause all kinds of tantrums...
NorthernKitesAUS
NorthernKitesAUS
QLD
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QLD, 1084 posts
4 Feb 2017 7:07pm
Thanks Kami. Much appreciated
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