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Schulerbible
Schulerbible
NSW
77 posts
NSW, 77 posts
20 Feb 2015 12:22am
Hi guys,

I am quite new into this business (prob 1.5 years), gone through the winter period and able to ride upwind/downwind with transitions. Recently started doing small jumps. My current kite quiver comprises an 8m Catalyst and 11m edge. As the end of season is close, I would like to get a low-wind kite which keeps me going in 8-10 knots on my TT.

I neither want to buy a bigger board nor want to get a surfboard. Both options are quite heavy/bulky to transport on a bus or train. I do weigh about 65 Kg and have a TT with 140x42cm dimensions.

It just seems like that I have to try an Ozone Chrono (15m) which is most likely the kite who keeps me going in such conditions. I am aware about the Chrono's performance not being a beginner friendly kite, but I definitely would like to give it a go.

What do you guys think, would that work?


Cheers
jamesperth
jamesperth
WA
611 posts
WA, 611 posts
19 Feb 2015 9:41pm
If you want to buy a foil kite you need to try the Flysurfer Speed 4 15m. Price is the same, Flysurfer Speed its designed for free riding and boosting as opposed to racing, they are easy to relaunch and fly generally. Chrono is a race kite above anything else. If you want to buy a race kites, then test the upcoming Sonic v Chrono. Also remember Chronos are a first edition kite and have had a number of upgrades over their lifecycle, so you need to find out whether you are buying a early model that is being sold for a reason. Buyer beware, but definitely spend some time on the foils if you can.
Schulerbible
Schulerbible
NSW
77 posts
NSW, 77 posts
20 Feb 2015 12:49am
I am aware about the flysurfers but we don't have them here in Sydney. Also I do have Ozone kites and wanted to stick with the same safety system but don't mind give the FS4 a go.
jamesperth
jamesperth
WA
611 posts
WA, 611 posts
19 Feb 2015 10:02pm
Fair enough. I'm a WA Flysurfer dealer, I think the closest guys to you are Qld which doesn't help much. chrono 2 will be released soon, if you are in the market for a new kite would be worth waiting for that. Otherwise the Edges are exceptional - have you tried the 19 ? Or for something completely different but the same price range, consider a hydrofoil - the Liquid Force Foil Fish is <$2k. The larger Foil kites will be $3k+ ... A big outlay to mow the lawn occasionally :)
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1615 posts
WA, 1615 posts
19 Feb 2015 10:49pm
8-10 knots on a regular twin tip you'd really be pushing it no matter the size of kite or type of kite... You'd only enjoy it if the wind was dense and the water flat with no waves or current and even then you'd probably barely keep your ground... As James said $3k is a huge expense to mow the lawn in low winds. Get a large light wind twin tip first if you don't want to get a directional board. With a light wind twin tip at your weight and an 11m edge you should start enjoying around 12knots. Anything below that... Get a hydrofoil or a race board or forget about it
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
20 Feb 2015 5:15am
1.5 years experience? Don't look at a Chrono. They are hard to fly, tip tuck and collapse without line tension. You will be better off with a Speed 4 as James states. The speed is far more stable and easy to fly. It still has awesome perfomance.

That said I have gone for a chrono instead of a speed. But I have been flying high aspect foils for 10 years....... and I kitelandboard and kitebuggy. The Chrono for me is primarily a land kite.


You should also consider a light wind board and also a 13 or 15 edge might be an option as well.

PS My quiver is as follows. 12m chrono, 13m edge, 10m edge, 8m cat. 6m reo.
PSS As cbulota states. 8-10 knots on a TT is fairly marginal. It starts getting real expensive to hunt kitesurfing in those conditions. Even with a monster kite not much more than lawn mowing can be achieved.
PSS Low end of my 12m chrono at 82kg staying upwind on 145x45 light wind board is 10knots.
patto1987
patto1987
NSW
194 posts
NSW, 194 posts
20 Feb 2015 2:52pm
I don't know if any shops will demo a Chrono, maybe try kite power. Also with the new IKA gear coming out in a few months the old ones will drop in value..

And they aren't that hard to fly, they have their tricks etc that u will need to get your head around but are by no means any harder to fly than a few other kites whose sole mission in life was hindenburginng at every available moment..
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
20 Feb 2015 2:40pm
Fouls are easy to fly. It's when they stop flying you have issues...
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
20 Feb 2015 1:42pm
Kamikuza said..
Fouls are easy to fly. It's when they stop flying you have issues...


Have you flown a elf or chrono Kami. These stupid high aspect winds are not as user friendly as a speed.
patto1987 said..
I don't know if any shops will demo a Chrono, maybe try kite power. Also with the new IKA gear coming out in a few months the old ones will drop in value..

And they aren't that hard to fly, they have their tricks etc that u will need to get your head around but are by no means any harder to fly than a few other kites whose sole mission in life was hindenburginng at every available moment..



I both agree and disagree. For someone with experience they are easy to fly. For someone with limited experience they will be hard to fly. Particularly if they come from a lei only background.

That said the chrono (or speed) does sit at the edge of the window waiting for input in sub 10 knots a lot easier than any lei in those wind speeds. in this instance I agree its easier than lei. But the upper end of the chrono is difficult particularly in in gusty conditions.
dafunk
dafunk
QLD
561 posts
QLD, 561 posts
20 Feb 2015 5:24pm
What board have you got atm ?
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
20 Feb 2015 7:09pm
I've flown Speed 1s and 2s which some say are much the same thing I was being facetious - when they're flying, there's no problems but when they stall or get out of shape, things get tricky... especially if hey end up on the water and you're used to just pulling on a rear line and waiting!
BrisKites
BrisKites
QLD
1293 posts
QLD, 1293 posts
20 Feb 2015 7:57pm
The truth is that nothing in a 15m will get you going on a standard sized twin-tip in 8knt, you need to go bigger.
You will need an 18m Chrono or Lotus.

Chrono for race Lotus for ease of use and stability.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
20 Feb 2015 6:35pm
BrisKites said..
The truth is that nothing in a 15m will get you going on a standard sized twin-tip in 8knt, you need to go bigger.
You will need an 18m Chrono or Lotus.

Chrono for race Lotus for ease of use and stability.


Might be possible with 65kg. Definitely possible with a light wind tt at 65kg..... But how much fun will it be?



gkawo
gkawo
VIC
193 posts
VIC, 193 posts
20 Feb 2015 10:54pm
If you really want a Chrono you might be better of with a Chrono 12mt. The difference between the 12 and the 15 is like driving a ferrari compared to a statesman. The 12mt version is faster and sits in the window a little better, and especially with your weight rangr, the 12mt in 12 to 18knots will definetely give you a lot of boost. But as they said, Chronos are really more for racing. FS4, FS3, or a HQ Matrixx kite around 12m2 will be more than powerful and stable for your needs.
Schulerbible
Schulerbible
NSW
77 posts
NSW, 77 posts
20 Feb 2015 11:08pm
It seems like braking the 10 knots barrier is almost impossible with my current TT and a 15m foil kite. I guess the 18m Chrono turns very slow and requires even more sensitivity to get it flying properly. Not really what I was looking for. Also never seen a used one on seabreeze.
jamesperth
jamesperth
WA
611 posts
WA, 611 posts
20 Feb 2015 10:14pm
Kiting sub 10 knots is lots of fun but definitely requires some dedicated equipment. I think everyone in this thread would agree, we've all spent lots of dollars and many hours dragging soggy wet kites up the beach trying to perfect our light wind technique. In the end, that solo session with the beach to yourself makes it worthwhile. Stick with it, but ride as much LW gear as you can and work out what works for you. For me, it's resulted in some of my most memorable sessions.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
21 Feb 2015 3:34am
Schulerbible said..
It seems like braking the 10 knots barrier is almost impossible with my current TT and a 15m foil kite. I guess the 18m Chrono turns very slow and requires even more sensitivity to get it flying properly. Not really what I was looking for. Also never seen a used one on seabreeze.


What's your current 15m foil Schulerbible?

PS I suspect the next purchase you should undertake is a light wind board. That will increase your low end better than a bigger kite. As Briskites said. Sub 10 knots on a normal TT is typically no go. You need more surface area.


jamesperth said..
Kiting sub 10 knots is lots of fun but definitely requires some dedicated equipment. I think everyone in this thread would agree, we've all spent lots of dollars and many hours dragging soggy wet kites up the beach trying to perfect our light wind technique. In the end, that solo session with the beach to yourself makes it worthwhile. Stick with it, but ride as much LW gear as you can and work out what works for you. For me, it's resulted in some of my most memorable sessions.



I guess your right. I'm not interested in a sub 10 knot lawn mow. But a sub 10 knot wave ride on a glassy wave is sublime. Also sub 10 knots in the kite buggy is powered on a 12 or 15m foil...... superfun to be doing 50kph drifting I such lift winds.
Schulerbible
Schulerbible
NSW
77 posts
NSW, 77 posts
21 Feb 2015 12:17pm
Plummet said..

Schulerbible said..
It seems like braking the 10 knots barrier is almost impossible with my current TT and a 15m foil kite. I guess the 18m Chrono turns very slow and requires even more sensitivity to get it flying properly. Not really what I was looking for. Also never seen a used one on seabreeze.



What's your current 15m foil Schulerbible?

PS I suspect the next purchase you should undertake is a light wind board. That will increase your low end better than a bigger kite. As Briskites said. Sub 10 knots on a normal TT is typically no go. You need more surface area.



jamesperth said..
Kiting sub 10 knots is lots of fun but definitely requires some dedicated equipment. I think everyone in this thread would agree, we've all spent lots of dollars and many hours dragging soggy wet kites up the beach trying to perfect our light wind technique. In the end, that solo session with the beach to yourself makes it worthwhile. Stick with it, but ride as much LW gear as you can and work out what works for you. For me, it's resulted in some of my most memorable sessions.




I guess your right. I'm not interested in a sub 10 knot lawn mow. But a sub 10 knot wave ride on a glassy wave is sublime. Also sub 10 knots in the kite buggy is powered on a 12 or 15m foil...... superfun to be doing 50kph drifting I such lift winds.


Sorry for the confusion Plummet. To be honest I don't have a 15m foil. Not yet.


>>PSS Low end of my 12m chrono at 82kg staying upwind on 145x45 light wind board is 10knots.

I thought my 140x42cm TT counts actually as a light wind board, but definitely not far off from yours. Also I only weigh about 65 pies. So, I assume at least 10 knots should be possible with say a 12m chrono.

Any experience about the low end of the chrono versus a 10/13m edge?

Cheers
Floater
Floater
QLD
58 posts
QLD, 58 posts
21 Feb 2015 12:33pm
I've got a 15m LF envy (currently for sale) and with 5m line extensions and a 165 litewave board I can get up and riding in 9 to 10 kts, just. I'm 70kg.
I've just bought the new 2015 12m and was riding in 9 to 10 kts on the big board.
Never flown a foil but would like to give one a go.

I definitely would recommend a big board, and the new carbon ones are very light and would be easy to carry on PT.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
21 Feb 2015 11:13am
I don't know the bottom end of the 10 edge as I only fly that one above 16 knots. Bellow that its either 12 chrono or 13 edge.

12 chrono has a better low end than the 13 edge. Maybe by 1 or 2 knots It just cranks upwind like a maniac.

The chrono is better upwind, has more lift than the 13 edge. The edge is way more stable in gusty winds and still boosts super sweet. You will know owning the 11 edge which is arguably the best edge size.

I tend to agree with GWako the 12m chrono is probably a better size for you at 65kg it would be equivalent to me on a 15m. 12m is super fun to fly aswell.

Note if I was water only I would have gone for 15 or 18m for ultimate low end. But because I'm on the land too the 12m makes more sense.
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