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KiwiDave
KiwiDave
VIC
192 posts
VIC, 192 posts
15 Jun 2014 2:20pm
I have been out 10 times including 5 lessons, with a total of 12 hours and I'm impatient to get better (this is bloody hard!).

My kite control is quite good and I think the problem is with the board. Is there any point to getting a few hours in on a skateboard? Or will that serve no purpose other than to give my kids a laugh?

Unfortunately my fitness limits me to one hour sessions and work/family really limit me to one session a week so this is slow going.


Dl33ta
Dl33ta
TAS
463 posts
TAS, 463 posts
15 Jun 2014 4:21pm
Skateboard will prolly do more for your fitness than your board skills. Not sure where you are but here it's a crap time of the year to learn. The wind is gusty so you go from being under powered to ever powered. Do an assesment of the wind if it's consistent and clear skies get the right board/kite combo out and have a shot, if it's gusting > 5 knots of the average wind speed on you fav weather obs website either body drag or skate. Seriously you're twice as likely to have a bad experience that either scares or injures you out of the sport at this time of the year.

When spring comes and the first sea breeze kicks in get your sick leave forms prefilled in and hit it hard, every day its on!
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
15 Jun 2014 4:52pm
In the beginning it's a matter if putting the hours in to break through...

If balance is an issue, skateboard will help... or one of those boarde on a log balance things. Probably less embarrassing.

Getting out with the kite on the skateboard would be good but potentially painful...

Do you have specific problems?
kiter101
kiter101
QLD
115 posts
QLD, 115 posts
15 Jun 2014 6:50pm
go wake boarding or you can go to a cable park.
KiwiDave
KiwiDave
VIC
192 posts
VIC, 192 posts
15 Jun 2014 8:11pm
I think it is mostly just a matter of being patient. I'm not good at that.

Today I went out at ST Kilda Vic and when I went out the wind strength was a bit light and almost directly onshore so there wasn't much time to get things right before hitting the beach.

On reflection I think I was failing to have ANY heel side pressure, flat board, not getting the front of the board far enough down wind and therefore doing a fair amount of skidding sideways. Therefore, not building any speed and hence not being able to reduce the size of the kite movements. Well that's my theory.

A cable park would be awesome but we don't have one in VIC. How / where does a person go wake boarding in VIC?
windreams
windreams
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
16 Jun 2014 12:24am
That brings back memories...unfit! I started late in the season before last and it didn’t take long before I realised the 2 hardest things about learning was, to have patience and not get knackered too quickly. Decided to do some jogging and swimming in the off season to improve my fitness and it made a massive difference with the amount of time I could practice for when the season kicked back in... the swimming also reduced my concerns about coming a gutsa in the deeper water...
eezeegowin
eezeegowin
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
15 Jun 2014 11:19pm
Work on your balance with a board on a pipe. I filled a 450/100mm bit of PVC with mortar (thats all I had lying around) and I stand on a 500/150mm bit of pine.

My concern with a skateboard is that the stance and weight is different. In skateboarding your weight is forward and over your toes. While this stance will help when you learn to ride toeside (I guess, I'm not there yet) I can't imaging it helping when you are learning to ride heelside as your weight is over your heels and back.

Bear in mind, I'm not great on either skateboard or kiteboard.
snalberski
snalberski
WA
858 posts
WA, 858 posts
16 Jun 2014 12:38am
I think using anything other than a kite to work your balance against would mostly be ineffective and pretty much a waste of time/energy for the purpose of practising basic kite board technique. The balance you must master when kiting is the balance relationship between the pull of the kite (transferring to your entire body through a harness) and the edging of the board. Skateboards and wakeboard parks although possibly still fun cannot offer an analogue to the forces that need to be in touch with.
Loftywinds
Loftywinds
QLD
2060 posts
QLD, 2060 posts
16 Jun 2014 3:48pm
Go surfing down at Torquay or Bells, learn the art and culture of surfing and then hit the kite scene. You'd be 80% there.
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
QLD, 6493 posts
16 Jun 2014 7:29pm
You need to lean back against the kite's pull. That'll load up the heel side edge...

You ski or snowboard at all?

I think it's iKitesurf.com that has good tutorials - search out the beginner ones on stance...
Chris_M
Chris_M
2132 posts
2132 posts
16 Jun 2014 6:57pm
I thought landboarding when I started out back in the day was pretty useful....

Gave me more practice at working power from the kite, and figuring out how to stop etc! Not exactly the same as getting going on the water, but still better than nothing.

I was on a 16m Venom and used to take it out in some pretty strong winds, lots of fun, but got my ass handed to me on a couple of occasions!
Schulerbible
Schulerbible
NSW
77 posts
NSW, 77 posts
23 Jun 2014 3:32pm
Hi KiwiDave,

I startet to skateboard to improve my general body stiffness. As mentioned above the cable park will definitely improve your board skills way better. However the next park is 1 hour away, it costs a lot and you have to wait sometimes long to get in the water (what sucks).

When I go kiteboarding I often get muscle pain on the top end of my legs (close to Mr Peebody). Going to the gym four times a week and skateboarding nearly 1 hour a day helped me to overcome this general stiffness. Cruising around with a skateboard and doing this snake like movements will give you more confidence with the board. However, bear in mind skateboarding can be really painful if you don't use protectors (like me). That includes heaps of ripped pants, sprains, general pain and bleeding from various body parts. I am skateboarding on a Penny board ... maybe a long board will be better to start with.

Cheers

Tobias

KiwiDave
KiwiDave
VIC
192 posts
VIC, 192 posts
23 Jun 2014 4:01pm
I got out at Rosebud yesterday and did much better.

Importantly there was sufficient wind, shallow water and the wind direction not directly onshore.

Today it's the biceps that hurt but at least I spent more time on the board and a bit less time walking upwind.
Scrubes
Scrubes
VIC
115 posts
VIC, 115 posts
23 Jun 2014 8:50pm
i was skiding out a lot too, i bought some bigger fins and found it helped a heap, just keep the old ones for when you improve. they cost me $30 on ebay now im going upwind on oposite foot
fcalmon
fcalmon
QLD
165 posts
QLD, 165 posts
23 Jun 2014 9:38pm
Cable park. It is the closest you will get...
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
23 Jun 2014 8:52pm
No advantage at all trying a skateboard. Save that thrill till you have hit the (softer) water a few times.
Then gear up with body amour.
Chris_M
Chris_M
2132 posts
2132 posts
24 Jun 2014 5:27am
Chris_M said...
I thought landboarding when I started out back in the day was pretty useful....

Gave me more practice at working power from the kite, and figuring out how to stop etc! Not exactly the same as getting going on the water, but still better than nothing.

I was on a 16m Venom and used to take it out in some pretty strong winds, lots of fun, but got my ass handed to me on a couple of occasions!


I should clarify: I was on an offroad skateboard, and on a big flat beach. Doing it on the concrete would be a bit mental.

The switchkites website is selling offroad skateboards pretty cheap too.
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