Should I get a bigger board?

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cmrls23
cmrls23
SA
41 posts
SA, 41 posts
27 Mar 2015 11:48am
Hey guys,
I have been kiting a little while, got the basics dialled, can ride upwind easy and doing little jumps and backloops. I am 5'10 and 78kg and most often ride a 10m blade trigger in 15-20 knots in adelaide metro. I am still using (mainly) the gear i bought when i started. This was a blade scalper (2011 i think) and its 128x40cm. I have been told a few times recently that this is tiny. I've never really felt it was too small, but then again i havent really had anything to judge by. Just wondering what i would gain with a bit bigger board?

Ive seen that bigger boards are recommended for beginners and lighter winds, what are the other benefits?

Cheers
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
27 Mar 2015 12:32pm
lol 128 is so small, thats sub 50kg size, bigger board gets you on the plane faster and has smoother landings.
skywalker3d
skywalker3d
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
27 Mar 2015 12:48pm
Should I get a bigger board?

YES

Is it better????

Only in every way!!!


cmrls23
cmrls23
SA
41 posts
SA, 41 posts
27 Mar 2015 12:41pm
haha ok i get it i need a bigger one. is there any disadvantages for bigger boards? i would think theyre slower and harder to rotate?
what size should i be looking for? i have a 143 cabrinha rival that i havent used yet becuase i thought it would be massive....
yendor
yendor
NSW
262 posts
NSW, 262 posts
27 Mar 2015 1:23pm
Bigger board around 136x42 and keep your smaller one when it's windy.

I think you will be a little surprised by how much earlier you will be up and riding
in lighter winds.

Hope this helps
skywalker3d
skywalker3d
VIC
228 posts
VIC, 228 posts
27 Mar 2015 1:24pm
Im 85donuts and a 145x44 is my everyday board.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1615 posts
WA, 1615 posts
27 Mar 2015 10:28am
For a guy your weight:

-Average board size: 134-138cm
-Big board size (light winds) 140cm +
-Small board sizes: 132cm or less

A lot of beginners are told bigger is better because big boards plane easier and you need less power from the kite and less technique to get going. However big boards are less maneuverable and can be harder to learn freestyle tricks on. They can also be harder to learn to ride upwind on (especially if they are very wide, i.e. more than 42cm wide) and generally speaking won't perform as well in strong winds and very choppy conditions.

Smaller boards are great for very strong winds, they hold a stronger edge with less effort and cut through the chop a lot easier, but that's also subject to personal preference.

Your average wind range in your area and the type of water (flat, chop, waves) and your style of riding plays a role in the board size as well.

The fact you learned in 15-20 knots with a 128cm board at 80kg is impressive and definitely shows you have a very good technique. That board is worth keeping if you like it, for strong winds.

Try borrowing boards from friends in sizes around 134-138cm and see the difference. I would avoid going over 140cm unless you wanted a dedicated light wind board.

Christian
cmrls23
cmrls23
SA
41 posts
SA, 41 posts
27 Mar 2015 3:23pm
cbulota said..
For a guy your weight:

-Average board size: 134-138cm
-Big board size (light winds) 140cm +
-Small board sizes: 132cm or less

A lot of beginners are told bigger is better because big boards plane easier and you need less power from the kite and less technique to get going. However big boards are less maneuverable and can be harder to learn freestyle tricks on. They can also be harder to learn to ride upwind on (especially if they are very wide, i.e. more than 42cm wide) and generally speaking won't perform as well in strong winds and very choppy conditions.

Smaller boards are great for very strong winds, they hold a stronger edge with less effort and cut through the chop a lot easier, but that's also subject to personal preference.

Your average wind range in your area and the type of water (flat, chop, waves) and your style of riding plays a role in the board size as well.

The fact you learned in 15-20 knots with a 128cm board at 80kg is impressive and definitely shows you have a very good technique. That board is worth keeping if you like it, for strong winds.

Try borrowing boards from friends in sizes around 134-138cm and see the difference. I would avoid going over 140cm unless you wanted a dedicated light wind board.

Christian


Thanks for the help guys i will have a look around.
how good do you need to be to use a board with boots? a guy down the beach was raving about them the other day.
do boots affect the board size choice?
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
1615 posts
WA, 1615 posts
27 Mar 2015 1:26pm
You really only should consider boots if you're willing to focus your riding entirely on wakestyle and freestyle unhooked tricks...otherwise there isn't much point. Boots would also only make sense if you have a C-kite: much more suitable for unhooked wakestyle tricks.

When riding boots you would want your board size to be a bit bigger than average, but I'll let the wakestyle gurus give you more details on that.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
27 Mar 2015 2:01pm
YES!

Unless your cranking airstyle on the biggest kite you can hold down. In that case carry on.
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
27 Mar 2015 5:34pm

Thanks for the help guys i will have a look around.
how good do you need to be to use a board with boots? a guy down the beach was raving about them the other day.
do boots affect the board size choice?



Don't go for boots until you've ridden atleast one season. Its far easier to get yourself out of trouble if your in straps, and crashes hurt a lot less.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
31 Mar 2015 4:51pm
If you really want to get going in light winds think a little beyond the norm. I got one of these a few months back and after the usual settling in period I now love this board in 12-15 knots on my 10m. It will also improve your riding skills no end. It's not just for the waves. On flat water it edges like a twin tip, motors up wind and learning simple tricks is a lot of fun.

gkawo
gkawo
VIC
193 posts
VIC, 193 posts
1 Apr 2015 11:56am
Why not try your hand at making a board yourself?

www.instructables.com/id/Plywood-kiteboard/

It's not rocket-science. I love the last line though ...

"Laugh at people on the beach who spent $700 on their board and who feel compelled to tell you, "that won't work."

Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
1 Apr 2015 3:41pm
gkawo said..
Why not try your hand at making a board yourself?

www.instructables.com/id/Plywood-kiteboard/

It's not rocket-science. I love the last line though ...

"Laugh at people on the beach who spent $700 on their board and who feel compelled to tell you, "that won't work."



Yep a glorious idea. A light wind board is easy to make.

I made my own "coffin lid". It works great in light wind. Because I'm in a wave location I added more than normal rocker to it..... It looses a bit of low end because of the rocker. but gains performance in the waves..... The net result is an awesome board the works better than normal light wind boards for my conditions.
psychojoe
psychojoe
WA
2241 posts
WA, 2241 posts
7 Apr 2015 9:42pm
cmrls23 said..
Hey guys,
I have been kiting a little while, got the basics dialled, can ride upwind easy and doing little jumps and backloops. I am 5'10 and 78kg and most often ride a 10m blade trigger in 15-20 knots in adelaide metro. I am still using (mainly) the gear i bought when i started. This was a blade scalper (2011 i think) and its 128x40cm. I have been told a few times recently that this is tiny. I've never really felt it was too small, but then again i havent really had anything to judge by. Just wondering what i would gain with a bit bigger board?

Ive seen that bigger boards are recommended for beginners and lighter winds, what are the other benefits?

Cheers


I weigh the same and I ride the same size board, I only have an 8m kite and that's all I ride anywhere from 17-35knts
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