Specific bar and kite matching question

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DHo
DHo
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DHo DHo
7 posts
21 Jan 2016 9:17am
Hi guys, I've done a bit of reading about mixing different bar and kite manufacturers. It seems that generally mixing a recent 4-line bar with a recent 4-line kite shouldn't present much of an issue, with the one big consideration being the safety system compatibility.
Specifically, I already have a spare 50cm Liquid Force CPR bar (2013 I think, has the swivel) and am looking at getting a 2014 Ozone Zephyr 17m. Can anyone see any compatibility issues?
Brohan
Brohan
VIC
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VIC, 528 posts
21 Jan 2016 12:47pm
Hi Dho, it all depends on the safety system and maybe the placement of the Y.

Not sure if the Liquid force bar is set up as a 2 line flagging safety system, if it is I wouldn't use it on an Ozone kite.

I use my Ozone bar with my Core kites sometimes and that works as Ozone uses a one line flagging system.

I can't use the Core bar with the Ozone kite as it's set up as a two line flagging system.

One line flagging system works with most 4 line kites (want to say all but not 100% sure).
Two line flagging system wont work on all kites.

The bars will probably work fine, the kite might not flag out as well if you pull the safety.

I'd just give it a go in light winds and pull the safety, just have a mate standing by just in case it goes all over the place.

DHo
DHo
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DHo DHo
7 posts
21 Jan 2016 10:01am
It has a single front line flagging system on the Liquid Force CPR bar. It also has a pretty long throw (I have short arms though so it might just seem that way to me...)
sidtinney
sidtinney
NSW
12 posts
NSW, 12 posts
21 Jan 2016 5:44pm
I can't give you an answer, but I can provide a bit more info in that the CPR's have a very low split in the front lines, so you'll want to take that into account too. Your best bet is to call up Kitepower who distribute both Liquid Force and Ozone.
FlyByKite
FlyByKite
WA
103 posts
WA, 103 posts
21 Jan 2016 6:08pm
DHo says - CPR has a single front line flagging system
sidtinney says - CPR's have a very low split in the front lines
That all means you should have no problems using it on the Ozone.
Brohan
Brohan
VIC
528 posts
VIC, 528 posts
21 Jan 2016 10:35pm
FlyByKite said..
DHo says - CPR has a single front line flagging system
sidtinney says - CPR's have a very low split in the front lines
That all means you should have no problems using it on the Ozone.


Yeah Ozone bars have a low Y and one line flag system, It should work fine.
DHo
DHo
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DHo DHo
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21 Jan 2016 10:34pm
Awesome, thanks for your help everyone.
Kahuna
Kahuna
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
25 Jan 2016 7:04pm
Hi All

Just further to this.

I have an Ozone Catalyst 10m with a 50cm bar.

Should be no problems using the 50cm bar on a 6m Eclipse 4 line kite?

My session tomorrow will probably depend on it lol.

Cheers

Swavek
Swavek
WA
396 posts
WA, 396 posts
25 Jan 2016 8:05pm
50 cm is a longish bar for 6m kite - no problem, just bear in mind the the kite will be sensitive, i.e. small bar movemen will translate into a quick turn.
If geometry of the original bar is similar Ozone bar ( centre lines split close to the bar) you will be fine.

One line safety release is a safer system than two line release - Ozone is a one line, means safe.
Kahuna
Kahuna
WA
63 posts
WA, 63 posts
25 Jan 2016 9:04pm
Swavek said..
50 cm is a longish bar for 6m kite - no problem, just bear in mind the the kite will be sensitive, i.e. small bar movemen will translate into a quick turn.
If geometry of the original bar is similar Ozone bar ( centre lines split close to the bar) you will be fine.

One line safety release is a safer system than two line release - Ozone is a one line, means safe.


Cheers Swavek. I agree it should be safe to try. I'll give it a shot and see how it flies :-).
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