The Walk Of Shame

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JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
23 Oct 2015 9:05pm
When walking along a beach and despite the rocks and palm trees i find it easier to prop my kite at 10 over the beach/retaining wall. Problem is in fluctuating conditions when walking along the kite appears to stall. My concern is it powers up and i eat it- what are the best strategies when i walk back upwind? Ive already tried hanging the kite at 2 but that gets me nowhere
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
23 Oct 2015 9:45pm
It depends on the wind direction and angle of the beach you're walking on whether it's easier to hold your kite over the water or over land. Every beach and every wind direction is different. But it is generally safer to hold it out over the water, the wind is generally cleaner and water is a softer landing than trees and concrete if something goes wrong.
windreams
windreams
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
24 Oct 2015 5:52am
Have you de-powered your kite for the walk of shame??
JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
24 Oct 2015 5:45am
Based on the wind direction it's alot easier to hold it over land. I'm worried if i depower the kite any further it will exacerbate the problem of the kite stalling? When it stalls/falls i leg it straight upwind to try and get some tension in the lines
kitcho207
kitcho207
NSW
865 posts
NSW, 865 posts
24 Oct 2015 9:10am
Think of the consequences if the kite stalls then powers up and where you will be dragged through.
Maybe do shorter runs between walks or better still organise a downwinder with a few people and drive back.
windreams
windreams
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
24 Oct 2015 8:16am
Sounds like you are doing everything right but you might have to just change your kite position depending the day, obstacles and most importantly people i.e.. if theres a lot of people on the beach and the wind is patchy place it over the water until it's clear on the land side again. This all might sound obvious but some of the crap I've seen lately makes me wonder

I'm past the walk of shame now but back then if the wind was up and I was fully depowered... don't laugh but I use to tack across the beach until I got back to the start point...you do what you have to, to keep kiting
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
24 Oct 2015 1:20pm
Sounds like you're doing the walk of shame because you are not powered enough.
Sounds like your kite is stalling because there is not enough wind.

Either a) kite in more wind

or b) Land your kite and carry it in yourself
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
24 Oct 2015 1:22pm
If there is in fact enough wind, perhaps its because the wind becomes obscured when you are flying your kite over the land.
Try and walk out away from the land first if possible, if you cant then keep the kite at 12
Matt988
Matt988
WA
154 posts
WA, 154 posts
24 Oct 2015 10:27am
windreams said...
Sounds like you are doing everything right but you might have to just change your kite position depending the day, obstacles and most importantly people i.e.. if theres a lot of people on the beach and the wind is patchy place it over the water until it's clear on the land side again. This all might sound obvious but some of the crap I've seen lately makes me wonder

I'm past the walk of shame now but back then if the wind was up and I was fully depowered... don't laugh but I use to tack across the beach until I got back to the start point...you do what you have to, to keep kiting


I used the tack up the beach technique when I was learning. Not so great if the sands hot up the top of the beach but
purpleninja
purpleninja
55 posts
55 posts
24 Oct 2015 1:04pm
stop being a girl and ride upwind
JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
24 Oct 2015 1:54pm
Thanks everyone... except for the ninja - he's just cranky because his mrs won't let him kite after work on Fridays
glendog
glendog
QLD
520 posts
QLD, 520 posts
24 Oct 2015 4:57pm
After you have mastered the walk of shame you should try a walk of shame to blind.
JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
24 Oct 2015 5:03pm
Shame to blind, transitions and de-poo stancing...I've got my work cut out this summer
purpleninja
purpleninja
55 posts
55 posts
24 Oct 2015 6:25pm
This is purples mrs, i check his forum posts. johnnymack if you watch his screaming infant and hyperactive toddler he is free to do the de-poo or whatever you all call it. Purples account is suspended
Chris6791
Chris6791
WA
3271 posts
WA, 3271 posts
24 Oct 2015 6:53pm
^^^ ???? More mrs's should check forum posts, that would be most entertaining. I reckon purpleninja is knee deep in de-poo'd children right about now.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23706 posts
WA, 23706 posts
24 Oct 2015 7:23pm
Hang on which one have I been talking all dirty with?

Kit3kat
Kit3kat
QLD
202 posts
QLD, 202 posts
25 Oct 2015 12:26am
if hes struggeling to hold the kite up on the beach then i doubt he is able to ride the kite upwind.


Otherwise it generally runs upwind slightly better on the waterside. Try holding the kite higher up in the window at around 10:30 and steer it up to 11:00 and back down to 10:00. When the kite starts to fall run away from the kite and hopefully that'll get it through the lull.

Tbh kiting isn't much fun at all in conditions like this... If your wind is frequently like this you need to get a foil kite or at least lightwind kite.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
25 Oct 2015 5:46pm
If the guys doing the walk then he's not quite got it yet, if the winds straight down the beach the over land or water is the same, however over water is considered the safer, if it's cross on the easiest is over land, if cross off then you shouldn't be kiting at your level,
The pace that you walk and the trim at the bar need constant attention whilst walking, don't walk a kite over land ( ie sand dunes) as this terrain increases draft and can be dangerouse,
Use the walk as a lesson in kite control, keeping a kite flying 100mm off the sand or water is more beneficial than flying at 10 or 2 o'clock, this will translate on the water to aid your upwind riding and kite control, if you don't have 100% control of your kite then you shouldn't have a board
JohnnyMack
JohnnyMack
64 posts
64 posts
26 Oct 2015 7:27am
Thanks everybody. Yeh i was out for 1hr and held the same line, issue came about when i stacked it and went too far downwind. It was cross onshore - so is it 10,11 or 12 in tricky conditions or a bit of everything?
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
26 Oct 2015 10:18am
Johnny, a central hold over the bar ( one finger either side is the best), as you'll have board in the other or under arm means yo won't have a free arm to activate safety, keep this in mind, it's not hard to lose a few hundred mts in a few minutes when learning, if your not competent or your spots a bit scetchy for self launch and land then leave a teather option to land your kite downwind, a big hike in wind strength mid session, can be a great cardio workout
LostDog
LostDog
WA
445 posts
WA, 445 posts
26 Oct 2015 4:57pm
Bribe a mate with beer...
Get him/her to take your gear off you and kite it back upwind whilst you walk casually upwind. Then change back and he/she walks downwind with a beer in hand.

Win-win

When you no longer get your mate smashed you know you're staying upwind.

weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy
635 posts
635 posts
26 Oct 2015 8:30pm
Just to clarify, JohnnyMack, are you walking backwards up the beach?

I personally find it easier to walk forwards and hence you need to fly the kite at about 10 or 2 as you can only really walk backwards when flying the kite directly above you. Lean against the pull of the kite and your walking speed should keep just enough apparent wind to stop the kite stalling. If you feel a lull you can jog forwards a couple of steps to help keep the kite in the air.

YMMV
LostDog
LostDog
WA
445 posts
WA, 445 posts
27 Oct 2015 1:46pm
Mate, if there is space enough, learn to self-land. This is a skill that you will need in future, so why not learn it now?

That way you could land the kite, roll lines up neatly and carry the whole lot upwind. Unroll lines, launch and do it all over again.

Chin up, only about 30 more sessions to go....


Phoney
Phoney
NSW
608 posts
NSW, 608 posts
27 Oct 2015 10:33pm
You could try body dragging all of the way back up the beach. It's slow and you end up with a lot of water in your face, but it doesn't sound like the alternative is treating you any better.
PaulyOS
PaulyOS
199 posts
199 posts
27 Oct 2015 9:47pm
If the beach is big enough you should body drag along the sand. Saves a lot of time.
purpleninja
purpleninja
55 posts
55 posts
28 Oct 2015 7:42am
some good advice there johnnymack. one thing i strongly recommend is wearing your boardshorts over the top of your wetsuit. Not only does this look stylish but it also helps with the walk of shame, when you look good, you feel good and the walk is so much easier regardless of kite at 10 11 12 1 or 2
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
28 Oct 2015 1:05pm
A newbie downwinder is a good idea if space allows. Have a friend leave a car a few km down wind. Ride in and out, honing your skills along the way, then catch a ride back to where you started.
weebitbreezy
weebitbreezy
635 posts
635 posts
28 Oct 2015 7:07pm
KIT33R said..
A newbie downwinder is a good idea if space allows. Have a friend leave a car a few km down wind. Ride in and out, honing your skills along the way, then catch a ride back to where you started.


A couple of kite schools do a similar thing but from a boat. They take you out sea. Drop you in and then follow you until you get bored/tired then pick you up again. You get the cleaner wind (away from any turbulent land features) and generally don't have to worry about crashing into other people. It seems like a nice way to get quick progression.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
29 Oct 2015 6:30am
I did the walk of shame down wind the other day. That was odd.. Tacked way the hell upwind. Then the wind died completely. I had to walk back down wind to get to the launch site....
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
29 Oct 2015 7:01am
Plummet said..
I did the walk of shame down wind the other day. That was odd.. Tacked way the hell upwind. Then the wind died completely. I had to walk back down wind to get to the launch site....


You lead an interesting life.

lol.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
29 Oct 2015 10:39am
waveslave said..

Plummet said..
I did the walk of shame down wind the other day. That was odd.. Tacked way the hell upwind. Then the wind died completely. I had to walk back down wind to get to the launch site....



You lead an interesting life.

lol.


Well. At least i don't have a dick in each ear.
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