Whats the opposite of "park and ride"?

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montoya
montoya
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2 Mar 2019 7:49pm
Ok... sounds like a dumb question but here goes... many kite descriptions refer to "park and ride". I think I know what that means. name kind of gives it away. but what exactly is the opposite? do you need to sine and move the kite constantly to keep it flying? why? how much? if u stop does it fall out of sky? can you still park and ride a kite with low p&r rating? i see this mainly for more advanced and c-type kites? whats the advantage.
thanks
hilly
hilly
WA
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WA, 8135 posts
2 Mar 2019 5:00pm
Powered strapped riding. Directional or twintip. Fast moving kite you follow. Sort of like this.

Sandfoot
Sandfoot
VIC
573 posts
VIC, 573 posts
2 Mar 2019 9:02pm
Park and ride means park your car and go for a ride !!

nah, pretty sure means kite sits in one spot while it's flying and you can ride along and pull off what ever tricks you want
Plummet
Plummet
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4862 posts
3 Mar 2019 12:09am
This.

montoya
montoya
VIC
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VIC, 32 posts
3 Mar 2019 4:24pm
Wow. I've never seen a kite flown like that! perhaps i should stick with park and ride kites on my tt or surfboard.
Chris_M
Chris_M
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2132 posts
3 Mar 2019 3:48pm
Don't 'park and ride' kites work a little more off the bar? In saying that I mean sheeting in or out will help to give you the power (or depower) you need to keep riding along.

Kites that are not park and ride require a little more active input - to increase power you'd need to do a few sines.

So the kites that are more bow shaped would be more likely advertised as park and ride and c kites need more sine-ing.

At least, that's what I have always thought.....
jms
jms
NSW
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jms jms
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4 Mar 2019 10:09am
Chris_M said..
Don't 'park and ride' kites work a little more off the bar? In saying that I mean sheeting in or out will help to give you the power (or depower) you need to keep riding along.

Kites that are not park and ride require a little more active input - to increase power you'd need to do a few sines.

So the kites that are more bow shaped would be more likely advertised as park and ride and c kites need more sine-ing.

At least, that's what I have always thought.....


Yup, that was my understanding too.

Park and ride = low aspect ratio, instant power/depower when you pull or let out the bar, smaller wind range, can concentrate on surfing, more stable in the sky.Not park and ride = higher aspect ratio, low pull until you sine the kite a bit, harder to turn the power off, larger wind range, needs more input, more likely to rush to the edge of the wind window.

So surf kites are usually park and ride style so you can concentrate on the wave and get instant power/depower , and jumping kites are usually the opposite.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
4 Mar 2019 3:32pm
jms said..

Chris_M said..
Don't 'park and ride' kites work a little more off the bar? In saying that I mean sheeting in or out will help to give you the power (or depower) you need to keep riding along.

Kites that are not park and ride require a little more active input - to increase power you'd need to do a few sines.

So the kites that are more bow shaped would be more likely advertised as park and ride and c kites need more sine-ing.

At least, that's what I have always thought.....



Yup, that was my understanding too.

Park and ride = low aspect ratio, instant power/depower when you pull or let out the bar, smaller wind range, can concentrate on surfing, more stable in the sky.Not park and ride = higher aspect ratio, low pull until you sine the kite a bit, harder to turn the power off, larger wind range, needs more input, more likely to rush to the edge of the wind window.

So surf kites are usually park and ride style so you can concentrate on the wave and get instant power/depower , and jumping kites are usually the opposite.


I disagree. Its a about riding style not the kite. If anything high aspect are more park and ride than low aspect as they turn slower,

I have kites across the spectrum from stupid high aspect foil race kite to stupid low aspect trainer kite and everything in between. I fly them all active style as that's what I like.
Chris_M
Chris_M
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2132 posts
5 Mar 2019 2:49pm
Sheet and go = park and ride?
Richoa
Richoa
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NSW, 478 posts
6 Mar 2019 10:59pm
Chris_M said..
Sheet and go = park and ride?


Here i was thinking sheet and go required applicable wind strength.
snalberski
snalberski
WA
858 posts
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8 Mar 2019 2:16pm
montoya said..
but what exactly is the opposite?


Loop and crash
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
8 Mar 2019 3:44pm
Suck n Furk
bigtone667
bigtone667
NSW
1559 posts
NSW, 1559 posts
12 Mar 2019 8:59am
Boost and crash
causehecan
causehecan
WA
668 posts
WA, 668 posts
16 Jun 2019 7:11pm
Kook n boot
Chris_M
Chris_M
2132 posts
2132 posts
19 Jun 2019 4:00am
Newb n gopro
Booga
Booga
NSW
22 posts
NSW, 22 posts
16 Aug 2019 9:52am
Back with the old C kites you had to work the kite in low winds (Sine wave) to ride. These kite had very little throw (6-8 inches) on the bar didn't handle gusty conditions well and had a small wind range.
With the coming of Bow and Hybrid kites these kite kites were much more forgiving and had a better range than the old C's.
Pretty sure the term park and ride "Park and Ride" came form these days as a way of explaining one the benifits of Bow and Hybrid kites
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