You were watching others self land so [edit] Why would you not go over and land there kite for them. If you start doing this then someone may repay the favor and land your kite.

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IMO self landing is one of the most dangerous things you can do in kiteboarding.

It can put both yourself and others in danger, as well as causing a lot of damage to your gear.

I have seen more self landings and launches go wrong causing injurys and damage than anything else i see at the beach.

If there are other kiters around get asistance to land and launch and if you see them in need of asistance go over and offer a hand. Its not that hard and reduces the amount of accidents that can happen.

Most councils are only one incident away from shuting down a lot of good kiting spots. So use some common sense use your flaging line and retrieve the kite safely. If there is no other option.

Normally if there is no one out kiteing that can give you a hand ,the conditions probaly arent good and a newby should take this as a warning that they may encounter problems if they choose to go out.

What ever Waxman. Clearly you didn't read the no replies from boring people like yourself part.. I will explain your valid point about helping others but you could have asked like a normal person. I was watching the conditions from afar, you know,too far to go and help others. Maybe you never go beyond your comfort zone but as I travel up and down the NSW coast, there are many places to kite but not that many kiters.You can stare at great locations all day or launch and land youself? No need to reply Waxman

So what is the best way to self land with a broken arm/leg damaged shoulder dislocated knee. Is there a packdown technique for someone that is unconcious?

Whats the best way to get in contact with someone to save your arse when it all goes to ****?

No need to reply to these questions as you are obviously bullet proof.

The technique and reliability of self landing is going to depend on your kite and bar.

If the kite has a safety that connects to one of the front lines, the safest way to self land is to fly the kite to the edge of the window so that your leash is connected to the uppermost front line. Look for a clean bit of sand and beware of anyone or anything downwind. From just slightly above the ground, steer the kite down and unhook your chickenloop or pull the QR. The kite should fall forwards into a parked position.

I often self launch and land, like Trant I'm usually the only one out.
Ease of self launching and landing is something I look for when buying a kite.
100% success rate with my gear, so I don't know what Waxman's on about, I'll just assume that Bandit's don't self land easily.

I fly in a spot with no one around exceipt the wife and kids . generaly it is too hard for them too hold kite so i got a sand spear kinda looks like a big wine cork remover, a shaft with a like drill on one end and a big cross bar on the other too wind it in . screw into sand attach chicken loop big clip hook walk over stand kite up at edge of window and presto the kite just sits there walk over grab chicken loop carefully and hook up fly away (too simple) land is just as easy fly too wind edge de power put wing tip on sand sit down beside pole relase chicken loop and attach to pole . IMPORTANT leave flaging line on during attaching to pole or removal from pole .

Check this link to the AKS website under tips & tricks. Another kiter put me onto this site. www.kiteboardingschool.com.au/index.php/beginner-newbie-tips/tip-28-how-to-land-a-bow/hybrid-kite.html

Wow Waxman big call! No safe way to self land!

Self land is quite easy & safe with some types of bow kite. But yes getting another kiter is better - safer & better for your gear.
Yes give yourself plenty of room & yes wait for the onlooker beach walker to get well out of the way.

(but my experience tells me that self landing can actually be safer than getting some Newb or beach walker who has no idea to try & land your kite.)






I self land all the time.

I love the top centre line tip over but it ain't reliable in strong winds. It is definitely the nicest & gentlest on the kite but...

I think the safest and most reliable method (other than just flag to safety) is....

0. Check there isn't anyone who is going to get hurt down wind
1. Gently sit kite on the ground at the edge of the window - let it hop back if it wants to.
2. Reach up as far as you can and grab BOTH front lines - at the swivel or vee point is nice & secure.
3. Pull in & un hook your bar.
-- At this point your safety is still on the flagging ring & you want to be real comfortable that you will not let go of both front lines.---
4. Walk around to directly up wind of your kite. It will lie on its back and surrender.
--If you have the kite securely you can dump your bar & safety now but you really don't want to let go of those front lines if you do.---

5. Hand over hand down both lines to your kite. Until you can grab your kite securely. (I like to loop the lines around my harness hook (hammer head) and pull in with one hand & out with the other - I'd hate my kite to fly down the beach & get someone).

I think this might not work with some bows depending on their pulley arrangement so you should test on a light wind day.

Try this. It is absolutely reliable for my kites & I reckon probably for most SLE/Bows.
Good luck